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Post by silver on Jun 11, 2013 23:00:55 GMT -5
T hat sounded stubborn and stupid (the comment), Top. Now you're down here with - me. Forget Bell Curves, heh. Dear Dude/Dudette, How so? Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize Mind you, I'm not going to get anymore than knee-deep in this.......that comment smacks of playing dumb. He does that a lot, I've noticed for quite some time - it's a very childish and simplistic avoidance/manipulation tactic.
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Post by tzujanli on Jun 11, 2013 23:10:00 GMT -5
Greetings.. Greetings.. I pay attention.. i've trusted, and when the discussion reveals actualities that the agenda messengers refuse to deal with, they resort to mockery, ridicule, provocation, and other such tactics as they hope will 'break' the clarity of those that see through their intended result, assimilation.. the evidence is in the insistence that a 'belief' is truth, that an opinion is true.. all i've ever suggested is that it is preferable to see clearly, than to see what someone tells you to see.. and, when someone tells you that you 'should see' what they see, their clarity is seriously questionable.. Tell a person what to see, and you fool him for a day.. Teach a person to see clearly, and they are liberated.. Telling people 'what to see', is a full-time maintenance of illusions.. helping them to see clearly, liberates both them and you.. Be well.. Dear Dude/Dudette, You can make people see clearly and liberate them? Shocker! Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize You can redundantly rely on sarcasm to hide your incompetence at playing the role of enforcer? Shocker! Be well..
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Post by Reefs on Jun 11, 2013 23:32:54 GMT -5
Greetings.. Dear Dude/Dudette, You can make people see clearly and liberate them? Shocker! Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize You can redundantly rely on sarcasm to hide your incompetence at playing the role of enforcer? Shocker! Be well.. Dear Dude/Dudette, Is that a 'yes'? Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize
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Post by laughter on Jun 11, 2013 23:35:53 GMT -5
Greetings.. Dear Dude/Dudette, You can make people see clearly and liberate them? Shocker! Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize You can redundantly rely on sarcasm to hide your incompetence at playing the role of enforcer? Shocker! Be well.. In all sincerity, how would you square this idea of "teaching a person to see, and then they are liberated" with the idea that noone can set anyone else free as that's something that is always in everyone's own hand?
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Post by tzujanli on Jun 11, 2013 23:47:23 GMT -5
Greetings.. Greetings.. You can redundantly rely on sarcasm to hide your incompetence at playing the role of enforcer? Shocker! Be well.. In all sincerity, how would you square this idea of "teaching a person to see, and then they are liberated" with the idea that noone can set anyone else free as that's something that is always in everyone's own hand? Really? If i give you the tools, and teach you to farm the soil, then leave you to do the farming.. your survival is 'in your own hands', and you are free to choose your crop.. Be well..
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Post by silver on Jun 11, 2013 23:49:58 GMT -5
Greetings.. You can redundantly rely on sarcasm to hide your incompetence at playing the role of enforcer? Shocker! Be well.. In all sincerity, how would you square this idea of "teaching a person to see, and then they are liberated" with the idea that noone can set anyone else free as that's something that is always in everyone's own hand? Granted, he made an oversimplified statement.........but aren't you working overtime to misunderstand / misconstrue this simple statement? You do understand what is meant by "Teach a man to fish and he can feed himself" don't you?
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Post by laughter on Jun 11, 2013 23:59:22 GMT -5
Greetings.. In all sincerity, how would you square this idea of "teaching a person to see, and then they are liberated" with the idea that noone can set anyone else free as that's something that is always in everyone's own hand? Really? If i give you the tools, and teach you to farm the soil, then leave you to do the farming.. your survival is 'in your own hands', and you are free to choose your crop.. Be well.. There's no need to resort to metaphor, and I do see the relationship between pointing in a direction that moves someone away from seeing themselves as singular and cut-off from the world and what the word "liberation" points toward. But this phrasing directly contradicts the idea that only the prisoner can set himself free: Teach a person to see clearly, and they are liberated..I'll admit that perhaps it is a bit nit-picky, but it's at least an interesting distinction. Assuming that I accept the phrasing "Teach a person to see clearly", then at best, "they might find liberation".
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Post by laughter on Jun 12, 2013 0:02:04 GMT -5
In all sincerity, how would you square this idea of "teaching a person to see, and then they are liberated" with the idea that noone can set anyone else free as that's something that is always in everyone's own hand? Granted, he made an oversimplified statement.........but aren't you working overtime to misunderstand / misconstrue this simple statement? You do understand what is meant by "Teach a man to fish and he can feed himself" don't you? Yes, but that's not what he said and what he said directly contradicts a former point of agreement between us ... don't worry! Agreement and disagreement aren't that important. Nothing to burn the midnight oil over!
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Post by tzujanli on Jun 12, 2013 0:02:41 GMT -5
Greetings.. In all sincerity, how would you square this idea of "teaching a person to see, and then they are liberated" with the idea that noone can set anyone else free as that's something that is always in everyone's own hand? Granted, he made an oversimplified statement.........but aren't you working overtime to misunderstand / misconstrue this simple statement? You do understand what is meant by "Teach a man to fish and he can feed himself" don't you? Hi Silver: He knows what he's doing, it's painfully obvious, he just can't quite control himself.. but, thanks for the support.. Be well..
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Post by laughter on Jun 12, 2013 0:06:03 GMT -5
Greetings.. Granted, he made an oversimplified statement.........but aren't you working overtime to misunderstand / misconstrue this simple statement? You do understand what is meant by "Teach a man to fish and he can feed himself" don't you? Hi Silver: He knows what he's doing, it's painfully obvious, he just can't quite control himself.. but, thanks for the support.. Be well.. Support? Do you feel under some sort of attack?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 0:28:51 GMT -5
Greetings.. Hi Silver: He knows what he's doing, it's painfully obvious, he just can't quite control himself.. but, thanks for the support.. Be well.. Support? Do you feel under some sort of attack? If I could commit the sin of projection here for a sec hehehe Probably not, but support always seems to be welcome when one is defending a position... In the SilentBluenigma ramparts support seems to be so tacit that public acknowledge and gratitude are not needed lol I don't understand what any of you are defending, or why :-) I'm pretty sure it's complicated though
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Post by silver on Jun 12, 2013 0:33:49 GMT -5
Granted, he made an oversimplified statement.........but aren't you working overtime to misunderstand / misconstrue this simple statement? You do understand what is meant by "Teach a man to fish and he can feed himself" don't you? Yes, but that's not what he said and what he said directly contradicts a former point of agreement between us ... don't worry! Agreement and disagreement aren't that important. Nothing to burn the midnight oil over! Huh? What? I fell asleep on the floor after I made that post. Aww c'mon Bill. *sigh*
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Post by laughter on Jun 12, 2013 0:34:29 GMT -5
Support? Do you feel under some sort of attack? If I could commit the sin of projection here for a sec hehehe Probably not, but support always seems to be welcome when one is defending a position... In the SilentBluenigma ramparts support seems to be so tacit that public acknowledge and gratitude are not needed lol I don't understand what any of you are defending, or why :-) Yeah, I got a special nickname for when that group gets together ...
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Post by silver on Jun 12, 2013 0:36:52 GMT -5
Greetings.. Hi Silver: He knows what he's doing, it's painfully obvious, he just can't quite control himself.. but, thanks for the support.. Be well.. Support? Do you feel under some sort of attack? Geez are you sick or what? He didn't ask for any support - I'm sick of you guys talking like this. I think Peter should allow us to have special Fridays where we can call people whatever the heck we want to.
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Post by laughter on Jun 12, 2013 0:38:41 GMT -5
Yes, but that's not what he said and what he said directly contradicts a former point of agreement between us ... don't worry! Agreement and disagreement aren't that important. Nothing to burn the midnight oil over! Huh? What? I fell asleep on the floor after I made that post. Aww c'mon Bill. *sigh* c'mon what?!? ... it's just a couple'a 'ole sneerin'-buddies joustin'-out some silly concepts about fish and eyeglasses and genetically-altered seeds and then you come trompsin' in with a kerosene lamp yammerin' about a time card or sumthin' ...
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