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Post by Reefs on Mar 10, 2013 22:02:50 GMT -5
I was aware of the thought to report the posts. But not the one prior that? Really? No E. I'm not talking about justification here at all at this point, but rather 'being aware of what mind is doing.' There's a world of difference between laughing spontaneously and reporting a post. One is an act of appreciation, the other...well, likely,not so much.  That is of course, unless you were reporting Arisha's posts because you were appreciating & resonating with them...? Indeed, many actions arise spontaneously, however, depending upon the nature of the action, it becomes more or less important to understand and be aware of the thoughts that preceded it. When someone gets murdered for instance, it would likely serve the killer well to have a gander at what thoughts preceded his action.....when someone offers his last dollar to a homeless person on the street, without stopping to consider what or why he's doing it....quite a different thing. IN the case of reporting posts, it's certainly no 'crime' but nevertheless, there is very likely a sense that 'all is not well' behind it. Again no biggie......no need to harshly judge that sense of things being not all well and good, but it is important to SEE it for what it is. With Behaviors that arise out of a sense of wanting to change others or change circumstances that really need not impact us negatively, it is important to understand the underlying mechanisms that precipitate them....and not necessary to snuff them out, but more to ensure that we are acting from a position of clarity rather than unconsciousness. Don't even try to hide your aggression, Figgy. You are judgmental. You were preparing a stake for Enigma again. You've been exposed. Now you are busy backpedaling again. |
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Post by Reefs on Mar 10, 2013 22:04:43 GMT -5
You have a lot of gall coming back here after you've beaten up so badly last time. And now you're back already busy preparing the next stake for Enigma. Do you really think anyone here is still believing you after you've been exposed over and over again? Your delusion are not serving you. Your 'stellar examples' are worthless. You are the brightest star of delusion here. No one is going to believe you anymore. Give it up. Stop preparing the stake for Enigma. That's low behavior.  ....... Someone got outta bed on the wrong side this morning.  You can say what you want, Figgy. It won't affect me or anyone here. Your twisted words are empty and wasted. |
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Post by laughter on Mar 10, 2013 22:07:06 GMT -5
Greetings.. Well of course, in general, and in the abstract, there's no retort to be had to what you say here Bob, because in the end, the enemy is only within -- very hard of course to project this realization onto every real-world situation that we can imagine of course, but that doesn't devalue it's currency in my book. And especially in the context of what Phil points up to us -- this is a message board for Christ's sake. Noone is actually going to harm anyone else here ... the joke I was going to make in your reponse to top about it being illegal to send letterbombs notwithstanding of course . Phil does make overt reference to you as the enemy but Phil is Phil and he says alot of things for effect -- most of what he does is simply to comment on what you've written to and about him and add some dramatic flair to it for the sake of comedic provocation. You can't be certain whether or not he does actually consider you an enemy or not. Not by what he writes here. Have you come to the actual conclusion that Phil has made you the enemy? Have you turned yourself into a false-false-enemy by making this assumption? This is a completely open and sincere question for you Bob, really man ... I imagine alot less these days than I used to but still the treasure chest if quite full, so if you were to answer "yes" to either of those I would not think any less of you ... no shame in it man. I'll be the first to admit that it's fun sometimes to do this, to build a straw man to fling rotten apples at, but deep down inside, do you really think that there's a human being hiding out up there in rural Oregon who seriously dislikes you? You know.. it's becoming fun to watch you either imagine or misinterpret what is said, then apply faulty logic to arrive at a post that has no actual relation to the referenced post other than your belief that it does, unless.. you did read the "unless" in the referenced post, right.. the indication of hypothetical.. is this intentional? Be well.. ... oh, I'm sorry, did I misunderstand you?  So by this: i am not his enemy, he is.. ... you didn't mean to subscribe to the idea that "the enemy is within"? ... so that means that "the enemy can be external to us"? and you didn't answer, so I'll ask again: do you really think that there's a human being hiding out up there in rural Oregon who seriously dislikes you? |
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Post by laughter on Mar 10, 2013 22:10:03 GMT -5
....... Someone got outta bed on the wrong side this morning. You can say what you want, Figgy. It won't affect me or anyone here. Your twisted words are empty and wasted. Hey 'rish howdya' manage to hack his account like that ?  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2013 22:10:07 GMT -5
Actually E, my point here is not to come down hard or condemn anyone for reporting posts. That's a matter of personal preference for dealing with something that's deemed to be problematic in terms of forum experience. I tend to let things go pretty far before I'd choose to do so, however, that does not mean that I'm judging anyone harshly if they're a post reporter. What I am actually attempting to discuss, is the fact that you regard yourself as being clear enough to point out the Giraffes of others on a regular basis and yet, you have no idea whatsoever about the thoughts that arose as you read those posts and then reported them. Isn't that kind of lack of awareness about what mind is doing, what it means to be unconscious? More delusion and twisting. You just were bellyaching here, here, here, here, here about Enigma having reported posts. And now you want to go back to your one gal's opinion cop out? No one will believe you. You have been exposed. My focus here is not upon the idea that it's 'bad' or 'wrong' to report posts. But rather, I'm pointing to the importance of being conscious of what mind is doing. yes, I may be addressing the fact that folks don't generally report posts because they're resonating with them in appreciation, but mostly, my point is on the importance of being aware of mind's involvement in such action. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2013 22:11:40 GMT -5
You can say what you want, Figgy. It won't affect me or anyone here. Your twisted words are empty and wasted. Hey 'rish howdya' manage to hack his account like that ? ;D |
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Post by enigma on Mar 10, 2013 22:13:44 GMT -5
I was aware of the thought to report the posts. What you want to know is what my policing thoughts were that justified the thought. You're so used to the police being around that you invite them in as part of the internal conversation. When someone says something funny, do you review the underlying motivational thoughts before you laugh? Hopefully not, and that's because God loves to laugh and won't let you take that away too. I suggest figgy should do more unabashed hugging and kissing for the sake of releasing attachment to thought police thoughts. But what can she do about the need to attach to the attaching?? I think she should analyze the motivation of the police to make sure they haven't turned into dirty cops. ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2013 22:14:17 GMT -5
I suggest Reefs could use more unabashed hugging and kissing......he appears to be in an awfully foul mood tonight.  Yes, when the finger is pointing back at you you start the mocking. Go on. Show us more of your delusions. I was actually hping I might get you to smile and lighten up a little.  |
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Post by Reefs on Mar 10, 2013 22:16:36 GMT -5
Yes, when the finger is pointing back at you you start the mocking. Go on. Show us more of your delusions. I was actually hping I might get you to smile and lighten up a little. With your mocking? Yeah, I was laughing seeing complaining about mocking and then seeing you mocking yourself here. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2013 22:17:56 GMT -5
Welcome back topology
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Post by Reefs on Mar 10, 2013 22:20:42 GMT -5
More delusion and twisting. You just were bellyaching here, here, here, here, here about Enigma having reported posts. And now you want to go back to your one gal's opinion cop out? No one will believe you. You have been exposed. My focus here is not upon the idea that it's 'bad' or 'wrong' to report posts. But rather, I'm pointing to the importance of being conscious of what mind is doing. yes, I may be addressing the fact that folks don't generally report posts because they're resonating with them in appreciation, but mostly, my point is on the importance of being aware of mind's involvement in such action. More shameless lies and backpedaling. Is that your idea of spirituality? Where is your website link, btw? Are you afraid of some negative backlash? Having a peace and love and joy website and then coming here to spend your time with nonstop b!tching and bickering, don't you see the split mind trick here? |
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Post by enigma on Mar 10, 2013 22:21:51 GMT -5
Yes, it would be much easier to say Arisha is annoying and I thought maybe I could get Peter to slap her wrist so that she would chill, and I think that's justified and I wouldn't be the slightest bit embarrassed about it, but that's not what happened, and maybe the discussion about what really did happen is useful to someone. What surprises me a bit is how judgmental some are about reporting posts. Peter has said repeatedly that he doesn't have time to read all the posts so please report anything that you think is a problem. It seems reasonable, so what's the big deal? Because I'm the one who reported them and you're on a crusade? Maybe it's time to report crusade posts. Actually E, my point here is not to come down hard or condemn anyone for reporting posts. That's a matter of personal preference for dealing with something that's deemed to be problematic in terms of forum experience. I tend to let things go pretty far before I'd choose to do so, however, that does not mean that I'm judging anyone harshly if they're a post reporter. What I am actually attempting to discuss, is the fact that you regard yourself as being clear enough to point out the Giraffes of others on a regular basis and yet, you have no idea whatsoever about the thoughts that arose as you read those posts and then reported them. Isn't that kind of lack of awareness about what mind is doing, what it means to be unconscious? No, but I can't explain to your thought police why they are not needed when you are conscious. Their first reaction is to draw their guns. I don't think you can understand not being driven by an ongoing series of personally formed motivations. We've had this discussion before regarding posting habits. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2013 22:25:39 GMT -5
Actually E, my point here is not to come down hard or condemn anyone for reporting posts. That's a matter of personal preference for dealing with something that's deemed to be problematic in terms of forum experience. I tend to let things go pretty far before I'd choose to do so, however, that does not mean that I'm judging anyone harshly if they're a post reporter. What I am actually attempting to discuss, is the fact that you regard yourself as being clear enough to point out the Giraffes of others on a regular basis and yet, you have no idea whatsoever about the thoughts that arose as you read those posts and then reported them. Isn't that kind of lack of awareness about what mind is doing, what it means to be unconscious? No, but I can't explain to your thought police why they are not needed when you are conscious. Their first reaction is to draw their guns. I don't think you can understand not being driven by an ongoing series of personally formed motivations. We've had this discussion before regarding posting habits. Again, there is a world of difference between being driven by an ongoing series of personally formed motivations and being aware of what mind is doing. It's quite simple. Were you conscious when you read Arisha's posts and then reported them? You supposedly have no idea what mind was doing at the time, what feelings were present, what thoughts arose as you read those posts, so clearly not. |
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Post by enigma on Mar 10, 2013 22:26:44 GMT -5
I was aware of the thought to report the posts. But not the one prior that? Really? No E. I'm not talking about justification here at all at this point, but rather 'being aware of what mind is doing.' There's a world of difference between laughing spontaneously and reporting a post. One is an act of appreciation, the other...well, likely,not so much. That is of course, unless you were reporting Arisha's posts because you were appreciating & resonating with them...? Indeed, many actions arise spontaneously, however, depending upon the nature of the action, it becomes more or less important to understand and be aware of the thoughts that preceded it. When someone gets murdered for instance, it would likely serve the killer well to have a gander at what thoughts preceded his action.....when someone offers his last dollar to a homeless person on the street, without stopping to consider what or why he's doing it....quite a different thing. IN the case of reporting posts, it's certainly no 'crime' but nevertheless, there is very likely a sense that 'all is not well' behind it. Again no biggie......no need to harshly judge that sense of things being not all well and good, but it is important to SEE it for what it is. With Behaviors that arise out of a sense of wanting to change others or change circumstances that really need not impact us negatively, it is important to understand the underlying mechanisms that precipitate them....and not necessary to snuff them out, but more to ensure that we are acting from a position of clarity rather than unconsciousness. Yes, it's a good focus for you and I encourage it. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2013 22:26:53 GMT -5
My focus here is not upon the idea that it's 'bad' or 'wrong' to report posts. But rather, I'm pointing to the importance of being conscious of what mind is doing. yes, I may be addressing the fact that folks don't generally report posts because they're resonating with them in appreciation, but mostly, my point is on the importance of being aware of mind's involvement in such action. More shameless lies and backpedaling. Is that your idea of spirituality? Where is your website link, btw? Are you afraid of some negative backlash? Having a peace and love and joy website and then coming here to spend your time with nonstop b!tching and bickering, don't you see the split mind trick here? Where have I 'lied'? |
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