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Post by enigma on Mar 10, 2013 20:41:32 GMT -5
I guess I just cannot imagine not being able to see the thoughts/feelings that arose behind an urge to report a series of (8!!) posts to Peter. And as such, it seems as though you are avoiding admitting that you were affected in some way by those posts. From my vantage point, it'd just be easier to say; "yeah, sure I felt a little angry there as things appeared to be unfair and I wanted to prove my point"....or "I was trying to be funny".....or "I was high/drunk and I accidentally hit the report button." ;D Yes, it would be much easier to say Arisha is annoying and I thought maybe I could get Peter to slap her wrist so that she would chill, and I think that's justified and I wouldn't be the slightest bit embarrassed about it, but that's not what happened, and maybe the discussion about what really did happen is useful to someone. What surprises me a bit is how judgmental some are about reporting posts. Peter has said repeatedly that he doesn't have time to read all the posts so please report anything that you think is a problem. It seems reasonable, so what's the big deal? Because I'm the one who reported them and you're on a crusade? Maybe it's time to report crusade posts.  |
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Post by silver on Mar 10, 2013 20:41:48 GMT -5
I think It's fairly safe to say, that the thoughts that arise in conjunction with the reporting of eight posts are not thoughts that arise from a place of acceptance, allowance or flow. Sure, after the fact, you may very well be in full acceptance of the fact that you reported those posts, but the reporting itself is evidence of resistance and pushing against your forum experience in that moment. I find it odd that you are working so hard to avoid admitting that you had some resistance to what was occurring there. Would it be so bad to simply admit that you were not liking the dynamic that was in play there? ...would you say that a child who feels compelled to report the behavior of another kid on a school playground to the principle, is flowing harmoniously in acceptance/allowance with his playground experience? Yes, your word twisting and bad memory is also very odd. Didn't get Beingist banned because of you? Doesn't matter if you reported his posts or not, you complained about it openly. Your bellyaching got him banned. Why didn't you embrace the valuable input he gave you? Just how valuable can it be to keep calling someone the same epithet over and over and over and over again? |
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Post by Reefs on Mar 10, 2013 20:42:20 GMT -5
And it's fun...I mean interesting how it wasn't too long ago that E was wonderin' out loud about someone else being under the influence. Maybe there wasn't so much a sense of E's of unfairness over the posts he reported as it was an intent to manipulate, even if the reasoning was just to have a little fun. ^ ^ ^ That's just me having a little fun.  (I've always liked the way you think, Figs.) hello Silver Belle........the sentiment is mutual. ;D Yes, pat your favorite groupie on the back. She's the only one who still blindly believes in the goodness of your machinations. |
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Post by Reefs on Mar 10, 2013 20:43:37 GMT -5
There was the thought to report the posts, and that thought was followed by the reporting of the posts. There was no discontent, no anger, no resistance, no agenda, no contemplation of the repercussions. It's your "evidence" that I'm questioning. The thought to report the posts must have followed some sense of something....the sense that the people you were reporting were contravening forum rules in some way and also the sense that some kind of action from the moderator as a response is appropriate. Why else report them? An 'I don't know' answer to that is an unwillingness to look at the motivation. By the way, I'm not writing off the possibility that posts can be reported from a place of 'love', I have yet to report a post despite occasionally experiencing a movement to sometimes, but I don't rule out the possibility that it is ego that has me NOT reporting them! My feeling is though that you are carrying forum baggage around with you to some extent (carrying the past) and that this is linked to the reporting. Yeah, but calling others nazi is okay. What a nice uplifting person you are. |
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Post by Reefs on Mar 10, 2013 20:44:27 GMT -5
... keep the whole context in mind ... it was directly after an abrupt public warning from Peter that carried with it no indication that this warning was solicited by anyone but Peter ... I imagine that the reports were more a way to facilitate some discussion between E and the mod rather than any serious attempt to get Arisha banned or whatever. Even so, the thought to report MUST have arisen with a sense that forum rules have been contravened, and that there should be some action taken as a response. Some sense of 'injustice' or 'inappropriateness'. Why else report? Its not the first time E has reported posts either. It's not the first time your bellyaching motivations are questionable either. |
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Post by silver on Mar 10, 2013 20:44:45 GMT -5
hello Silver Belle........the sentiment is mutual. ;D Yes, pat your favorite groupie on the back. She's the only one who still blindly believes in the goodness of your machinations. I belive in your machinations, too. We all have 'em. Everyone is quite fascinating. |
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Post by Reefs on Mar 10, 2013 20:45:37 GMT -5
I offer you a gentle point of respectful disagreement on that idea Mr. Temp. I know I know ... I put up something about "walks like a duck..." etc... but I looked at that idea when it came to mind and to be perfectly honest, I can't be certain of what he was thinking ... he might have just having some sarcastic fun saying to Pete: "oh yeah! ... see! see! ... wow ... great job pal!". It's all a safari man. ... and I need the bullets for my own giraffes! Yeah well the villagers and the pitchforks and the torches and all that you know! Whatever the exact motive, the thought must have come with a sense that forum rules had been broken. There wouldn't be a report made otherwise, unless Enigma is reporting posts totally randomly, and it doesn't seem like he is. Your explanation that it may be some kind of sarcastic fun is possible, but doesn't ring true to me, and even if it is, the thought to report the posts still came with a sense of something. TMT |
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Post by enigma on Mar 10, 2013 20:56:01 GMT -5
Haffiz knows what Love is. Listen to him.: It happens all the time in heaven, and some day it will begin to happen again on earth... that men and women who are married, and men and men who are lovers, and women and women who give each other light, often will get down on their knees and while so tenderly holding their lover's hand, with tears in their eyes, will sincerely speak, saying, "My dear, how can I be more loving to you; how can I be more kind?" Yikes. |
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Post by enigma on Mar 10, 2013 21:26:41 GMT -5
At some point, you might lose interest in policing your thoughts, but this will only happen when you stop hiding from yourself. At that point, you'll stop trying to justify everything you do with some sort of correct reason and purpose. In a way, it comes down to trusting yourself. As long as you're still blowing the whistle on yourself, you're going to keep blowing the whistle on everybody else. Being aware of thoughts/feelings does not equal 'policing them.' It is one thing to be aware of the thoughts that arise and quite another to judge them or justify them. I was aware of the thought to report the posts. What you want to know is what my policing thoughts were that justified the thought. You're so used to the police being around that you invite them in as part of the internal conversation. When someone says something funny, do you review the underlying motivational thoughts before you laugh? Hopefully not, and that's because God loves to laugh and won't let you take that away too. |
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Post by Reefs on Mar 10, 2013 21:35:03 GMT -5
Being aware of thoughts/feelings does not equal 'policing them.' It is one thing to be aware of the thoughts that arise and quite another to judge them or justify them. I was aware of the thought to report the posts. What you want to know is what my policing thoughts were that justified the thought. You're so used to the police being around that you invite them in as part of the internal conversation. When someone says something funny, do you review the underlying motivational thoughts before you laugh? Hopefully not, and that's because God loves to laugh and won't let you take that away too. I suggest figgy should do more unabashed hugging and kissing for the sake of releasing attachment to thought police thoughts. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2013 21:43:47 GMT -5
I guess I just cannot imagine not being able to see the thoughts/feelings that arose behind an urge to report a series of (8!!) posts to Peter. And as such, it seems as though you are avoiding admitting that you were affected in some way by those posts. From my vantage point, it'd just be easier to say; "yeah, sure I felt a little angry there as things appeared to be unfair and I wanted to prove my point"....or "I was trying to be funny".....or "I was high/drunk and I accidentally hit the report button." ;D Yes, it would be much easier to say Arisha is annoying and I thought maybe I could get Peter to slap her wrist so that she would chill, and I think that's justified and I wouldn't be the slightest bit embarrassed about it, but that's not what happened, and maybe the discussion about what really did happen is useful to someone. What surprises me a bit is how judgmental some are about reporting posts. Peter has said repeatedly that he doesn't have time to read all the posts so please report anything that you think is a problem. It seems reasonable, so what's the big deal? Because I'm the one who reported them and you're on a crusade? Maybe it's time to report crusade posts. Actually E, my point here is not to come down hard or condemn anyone for reporting posts. That's a matter of personal preference for dealing with something that's deemed to be problematic in terms of forum experience. I tend to let things go pretty far before I'd choose to do so, however, that does not mean that I'm judging anyone harshly if they're a post reporter. What I am actually attempting to discuss, is the fact that you regard yourself as being clear enough to point out the Giraffes of others on a regular basis and yet, you have no idea whatsoever about the thoughts that arose as you read those posts and then reported them. Isn't that kind of lack of awareness about what mind is doing, what it means to be unconscious? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2013 21:57:17 GMT -5
I was aware of the thought to report the posts. But not the one prior that? Really? No E. I'm not talking about justification here at all at this point, but rather 'being aware of what mind is doing.' There's a world of difference between laughing spontaneously and reporting a post. One is an act of appreciation, the other...well, likely,not so much. That is of course, unless you were reporting Arisha's posts because you were appreciating & resonating with them...? Indeed, many actions arise spontaneously, however, depending upon the nature of the action, it becomes more or less important to understand and be aware of the thoughts that preceded it. When someone gets murdered for instance, it would likely serve the killer well to have a gander at what thoughts preceded his action.....when someone offers his last dollar to a homeless person on the street, without stopping to consider what or why he's doing it....quite a different thing. IN the case of reporting posts, it's certainly no 'crime' but nevertheless, there is very likely a sense that 'all is not well' behind it. Again no biggie......no need to harshly judge that sense of things being not all well and good, but it is important to SEE it for what it is. With Behaviors that arise out of a sense of wanting to change others or change circumstances that really need not impact us negatively, it is important to understand the underlying mechanisms that precipitate them....and not necessary to snuff them out, but more to ensure that we are acting from a position of clarity rather than unconsciousness. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2013 21:59:17 GMT -5
I was aware of the thought to report the posts. What you want to know is what my policing thoughts were that justified the thought. You're so used to the police being around that you invite them in as part of the internal conversation. When someone says something funny, do you review the underlying motivational thoughts before you laugh? Hopefully not, and that's because God loves to laugh and won't let you take that away too. I suggest figgy should do more unabashed hugging and kissing for the sake of releasing attachment to thought police thoughts. I suggest Reefs could use more unabashed hugging and kissing......he appears to be in an awfully foul mood tonight.  |
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Post by Reefs on Mar 10, 2013 21:59:24 GMT -5
Yes, it would be much easier to say Arisha is annoying and I thought maybe I could get Peter to slap her wrist so that she would chill, and I think that's justified and I wouldn't be the slightest bit embarrassed about it, but that's not what happened, and maybe the discussion about what really did happen is useful to someone. What surprises me a bit is how judgmental some are about reporting posts. Peter has said repeatedly that he doesn't have time to read all the posts so please report anything that you think is a problem. It seems reasonable, so what's the big deal? Because I'm the one who reported them and you're on a crusade? Maybe it's time to report crusade posts. Actually E, my point here is not to come down hard or condemn anyone for reporting posts. That's a matter of personal preference for dealing with something that's deemed to be problematic in terms of forum experience. I tend to let things go pretty far before I'd choose to do so, however, that does not mean that I'm judging anyone harshly if they're a post reporter. What I am actually attempting to discuss, is the fact that you regard yourself as being clear enough to point out the Giraffes of others on a regular basis and yet, you have no idea whatsoever about the thoughts that arose as you read those posts and then reported them. Isn't that kind of lack of awareness about what mind is doing, what it means to be unconscious? More delusion and twisting. You just were bellyaching here, here, here, here, here about Enigma having reported posts. And now you want to go back to your one gal's opinion cop out? No one will believe you. You have been exposed. |
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Post by Reefs on Mar 10, 2013 22:00:27 GMT -5
I suggest figgy should do more unabashed hugging and kissing for the sake of releasing attachment to thought police thoughts. I suggest Reefs could use more unabashed hugging and kissing......he appears to be in an awfully foul mood tonight. Yes, when the finger is pointing back at you you start the mocking. Go on. Show us more of your delusions. |
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