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Post by Reefs on Jan 31, 2013 9:55:44 GMT -5
The italicized paragraph. Where I posted - point well taken. Sounds like there's a tomato epidemic near the Gulf of Mexico. ;D Tomatoes aren't native to West Texas. We've been using a distributor, Tomatoes International. I've asked where their supplier is. Either the packaging is wrong or the distance is just too great, but the tomatoes from russia just don't seem to survive the trip. Помидоры из России в Техасе??  |
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Post by andrew on Jan 31, 2013 9:59:28 GMT -5
Yes, I think that's pretty much it, though I also see some parties of the western approach in horror because the eastern approach is seen to be about 'the person'. Personally, I think there is something to be said for both sides. East meets West hehe. What a nonsense. There is no difference except in appearance. The eastern neo-dvaita rap is not different from the western neo-advaita rap. So forget your synthesis, they are already one, hehe. Hehe. The East, in this context, is not selling neo-advaita. In this context, the East could possibly be represented by ''love your neighbour as yourself'' and the West could possibly be represented by ''The Father and I are One''. From what I have read, Jesus was a master of the synthesis, hence why, he experienced the oneness of all things. |
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Post by Reefs on Jan 31, 2013 10:05:17 GMT -5
What a nonsense. There is no difference except in appearance. The eastern neo-dvaita rap is not different from the western neo-advaita rap. So forget your synthesis, they are already one, hehe. Hehe. The East, in this context, is not selling neo-advaita. In this context, the East could possibly be represented by ''love your neighbour as yourself'' and the West could possibly be represented by ''The Father and I are One''. From what I have read, Jesus was a master of the synthesis, hence why, he experienced the oneness of all things. I didn't know you were talking about hearsay and fairy tales.  |
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Post by topology on Jan 31, 2013 10:05:21 GMT -5
Let me add to that point. Perhaps the people walking from a western direction sense that path is more whole for them. I am a child of the middle orchard. I live in the Mid-West. I happen to see the value in turning the ego around. eh What's the difference between turning the ego around and eroding it through ATA, Noticing, deconstruction, etc. |
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Post by andrew on Jan 31, 2013 10:09:55 GMT -5
Hehe. The East, in this context, is not selling neo-advaita. In this context, the East could possibly be represented by ''love your neighbour as yourself'' and the West could possibly be represented by ''The Father and I are One''. From what I have read, Jesus was a master of the synthesis, hence why, he experienced the oneness of all things. I didn't know you were talking about hearsay and fairy tales. I don't think I am. Can you clarify what that eely smile is meant to denote, I'm really not sure how to interpret it...? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2013 10:16:56 GMT -5
I am a child of the middle orchard. I live in the Mid-West. I happen to see the value in turning the ego around. eh What's the difference between turning the ego around and eroding it through ATA, Noticing, deconstruction, etc. Differences are whatever we decide they are. I never heard of ATA, Noticing, deconstruction, etc. until I arrived here. I was aware of turning the ego around. That deconstruction thing is interesting. |
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Post by topology on Jan 31, 2013 10:23:04 GMT -5
What's the difference between turning the ego around and eroding it through ATA, Noticing, deconstruction, etc. Differences are whatever we decide they are. I never heard of ATA, Noticing, deconstruction, etc. until I arrived here. I was aware of turning the ego around. That deconstruction thing is interesting. What does one "do" to turn the ego around? |
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Post by tzujanli on Jan 31, 2013 10:26:06 GMT -5
Greetings.. If you look the definition of the word 'spirituality' in Wikipedia (it was made by Westerners, btw) you will see that 'practical' approach is included in it, btw ("the deepest values by which people LIVE"), but people here don't want to notice those words... ATAing, Noticing, being present, aware, and non-attached, this is a practical approach to living and is talked about here all the time. Hi Top: That is what is being talked about occasionally, but.. mostly there's a small group/club that is trying to enforce their 'beliefs about' what should be interpreted from the " practical approach to living".. i am not familiar "ATAing", but i am familiar with 'paying attention' as you suggest, and i find it most consistently appropriate for seeing/experiencing 'what is'.. Those that 'shout-down' the experiences and understandings of others with intimidation, mockery, and "tough love", with the agenda of convincing others that their 'interpretations/beliefs' are superior , but who refuse to engage in discussions absent the "intimidation, mockery, and "tough love", equate with 'spiritual bullies'.. This forum degrades into petty bickering largely due to a select few that insist their's is the the only valid 'way', while resisting any opportunity for open, honest, and respectful discussion.. but, the opportunity for a softer kinder forum is to let go of the need to engage the 'select few'.. they feed on the conflict they create.. Be well.. |
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Post by Reefs on Jan 31, 2013 10:29:15 GMT -5
Good morning... Greetings.. Hi Top: That is what is being talked about occasionally, but.. mostly there's a small group/club that is trying to enforce their 'beliefs about' what should be interpreted from the " practical approach to living".. i am not familiar "ATAing", but i am familiar with 'paying attention' as you suggest, and i find it most consistently appropriate for seeing/experiencing 'what is'.. Those that 'shout-down' the experiences and understandings of others with intimidation, mockery, and "tough love", with the agenda of convincing others that their 'interpretations/beliefs' are superior , but who refuse to engage in discussions absent the "intimidation, mockery, and "tough love", equate with 'spiritual bullies'.. This forum degrades into petty bickering largely due to a select few that insist their's is the the only valid 'way', while resisting any opportunity for open, honest, and respectful discussion.. but, the opportunity for a softer kinder forum is to let go of the need to engage the 'select few'.. they feed on the conflict they create.. Be well.. Dear Tzu: Yes. We should ban all members with post count beyond 1,000 posts. All is well ... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2013 10:33:31 GMT -5
Differences are whatever we decide they are. I never heard of ATA, Noticing, deconstruction, etc. until I arrived here. I was aware of turning the ego around. That deconstruction thing is interesting. What does one "do" to turn the ego around? Here we go again. It's been described. Service. Deconstruction sounds like quite a project. |
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Post by tzujanli on Jan 31, 2013 11:40:19 GMT -5
Greetings.. Good morning... Greetings.. Hi Top: That is what is being talked about occasionally, but.. mostly there's a small group/club that is trying to enforce their 'beliefs about' what should be interpreted from the " practical approach to living".. i am not familiar "ATAing", but i am familiar with 'paying attention' as you suggest, and i find it most consistently appropriate for seeing/experiencing 'what is'.. Those that 'shout-down' the experiences and understandings of others with intimidation, mockery, and "tough love", with the agenda of convincing others that their 'interpretations/beliefs' are superior , but who refuse to engage in discussions absent the "intimidation, mockery, and "tough love", equate with 'spiritual bullies'.. This forum degrades into petty bickering largely due to a select few that insist their's is the the only valid 'way', while resisting any opportunity for open, honest, and respectful discussion.. but, the opportunity for a softer kinder forum is to let go of the need to engage the 'select few'.. they feed on the conflict they create.. Be well..
All is well ... If you have a point, can you make it concisely and without contentious intent? Be well.. |
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Post by topology on Jan 31, 2013 11:40:51 GMT -5
What does one "do" to turn the ego around? Here we go again. It's been described. Service. Deconstruction sounds like quite a project. What is service? Donating to a charity is pumps the ego up. |
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Post by Reefs on Jan 31, 2013 11:45:10 GMT -5
Good morning.. Greetings.. If you have a point, can you make it concisely and without contentious intent? Be well.. Dear Tzu: Maybe just ban all members beyond the 15,000 posts mark. Would that help in your case and ease you up a bit? All is well.. |
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Post by tzujanli on Jan 31, 2013 11:45:43 GMT -5
Greetings.. Here we go again. It's been described. Service. Deconstruction sounds like quite a project. Hi Top: That may be true for some, but it is not my experience that it is true for even the majority.. Be well.. |
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Post by tzujanli on Jan 31, 2013 11:49:53 GMT -5
Greetings.. Good morning.. Greetings.. If you have a point, can you make it concisely and without contentious intent? Be well.. All is well.. No.. i have no 'case', that's your interpretation.. All is, well... Be well.. |
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