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Post by relinquish on Apr 17, 2012 4:11:02 GMT -5
Well, of course there is nothing wrong with what you are saying there. Not at all. But the fact remains that the absolute truth of a person of higher morality and a person of zero morality is exactly the same. We're all made of the same stuff. All the elements our bodies are comprised of were formed in cores of stars, billions of years ago. And one other thing, everyone who has ever served anyone that they didn't have to, even if it was very difficult to serve them, they did because deep down it made them happy to help them. Like it or not, it all comes down to selfishness in the end. This is not a bad thing.  It could be much more useful to discuss the stuff people are made of, in order to do something about it. Much more useful, and helpful, and senseful, than the talks about Oneness. It could help do something really useful for the OTHER. And all those talks are just for satisfying the Self, for pleasing yourself, and the most stupid wasting of time one has ever seen. Ok then. While we are talking about it, how does it make you feel to acknowledge that all the elements that comprise your body and everything in it, everyone elses bodies and everthing in them and every other life form and everything on this planet and the planet itself and every other planet in the universe were formed in cores of trillions of stars, billions of years ago? How does it makes you feel? |
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Post by relinquish on Apr 17, 2012 4:13:32 GMT -5
Again, why do you automatically assume that the only help I offer is a help of my choosing? I'm not just talking about this forum, of course. Because you have shown that clearly enough. I said I'm not just talking about this forum. Didn't you read that bit? |
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Post by arisha on Apr 17, 2012 4:19:54 GMT -5
It could be much more useful to discuss the stuff people are made of, in order to do something about it. Much more useful, and helpful, and senseful, than the talks about Oneness. It could help do something really useful for the OTHER. And all those talks are just for satisfying the Self, for pleasing yourself, and the most stupid wasting of time one has ever seen. Ok then. While we are talking about it, how does it make you feel to acknowledge that all the elements that comprise your body and everything in it, everyone elses bodies and everthing in them and every other life form and everything on this planet and the planet itself and every other planet in the universe were formed in cores of trillions of stars, billions of years ago? How does it makes you feel? Don't try to go away from the question arisen. We were talking about selfishness deep down in every person, and not about this universal stuff, which is the subject of a different discussion. |
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Post by relinquish on Apr 17, 2012 4:33:59 GMT -5
Ok then. While we are talking about it, how does it make you feel to acknowledge that all the elements that comprise your body and everything in it, everyone elses bodies and everthing in them and every other life form and everything on this planet and the planet itself and every other planet in the universe were formed in cores of trillions of stars, billions of years ago? How does it makes you feel? Don't try to go away from the question arisen. We were talking about selfishness deep down in every person, and not about this universal stuff, which is the subject of a different discussion. If you are implying that what we are made of is a problem that we can 'do something' about, then all I can say is that it's not, and we can't. |
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Post by esponja on Apr 17, 2012 5:55:50 GMT -5
Ok I need some time to read through posts and figure out where I'm at. I'll post response at a later stage.
Meanwhile guess what picture has just turned up on my Facebook? Says click 'like if you'd like to help?'
On another note whatever happened to Reefs/Exactamente?
He didn't get another ban did he?
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Post by Portto on Apr 17, 2012 5:59:25 GMT -5
You somehow detected a paradox, which is fine. What I'm surprised is that you're now uncomfortable with paradox. Discomfort isnt quite the right word, I just didnt feel that where you were taking us was 'practical'. A question you could ask yourself is....why do you feel the need to focus on something that doesnt exist? I had no idea you turned very practical. You used to keep the practical aspect to a bare minimum and go for imagination instead. |
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Post by Portto on Apr 17, 2012 6:00:03 GMT -5
I wish you were smarter and didn't repeat jokes. ;D But there's time. It's not a joke. My intelligence is too low to not be whined about, and my... well, you know what  , is too big to not be bragged about. False statement + false statement. |
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Post by andrew on Apr 17, 2012 6:06:47 GMT -5
Discomfort isnt quite the right word, I just didnt feel that where you were taking us was 'practical'. A question you could ask yourself is....why do you feel the need to focus on something that doesnt exist? I had no idea you turned very practical. You used to keep the practical aspect to a bare minimum and go for imagination instead. Im pretty much always practical because what you are calling 'imagination' IS the practical. Its what I would call....life! Its the thing that doesnt exist that is imagined. Thats why I wondered why your focus tends to be on something that can only exist in your imagination by definition....? |
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Post by Portto on Apr 17, 2012 6:08:18 GMT -5
Ok I need some time to read through posts and figure out where I'm at. If you want to figure out where you are, it's better to look around the room. Ideas vanish faster than the room. |
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Post by Portto on Apr 17, 2012 6:12:38 GMT -5
I had no idea you turned very practical. You used to keep the practical aspect to a bare minimum and go for imagination instead. Im pretty much always practical because what you are calling 'imagination' IS the practical. Its what I would call....life! Its the thing that doesnt exist that is imagined. Thats why I wondered why your focus tends to be on something that can only exist in your imagination by definition....? OK, that sounds more like the "usual Andrew." |
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Post by esponja on Apr 17, 2012 6:35:00 GMT -5
Ok I need some time to read through posts and figure out where I'm at. If you want to figure out where you are, it's better to look around the room. Ideas vanish faster than the room. Although I appreciate the help, none of it is really helping me right now so I have no option than to contemplate this. I need my mind to read through and make sense of the posts first and then to figure out what I know and want, don't see another option right now. |
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Post by andrew on Apr 17, 2012 6:40:28 GMT -5
Im pretty much always practical because what you are calling 'imagination' IS the practical. Its what I would call....life! Its the thing that doesnt exist that is imagined. Thats why I wondered why your focus tends to be on something that can only exist in your imagination by definition....? OK, that sounds more like the "usual Andrew." haha, if by 'usual Andrew' you mean I am trying to get you out of the abstract, then yes. |
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Post by Portto on Apr 17, 2012 6:47:13 GMT -5
OK, that sounds more like the "usual Andrew." haha, if by 'usual Andrew' you mean I am trying to get you out of the abstract, then yes. Hehe, this is the "persistent Andrew." |
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Post by Portto on Apr 17, 2012 6:48:11 GMT -5
If you want to figure out where you are, it's better to look around the room. Ideas vanish faster than the room. Although I appreciate the help, none of it is really helping me right now so I have no option than to contemplate this. I need my mind to read through and make sense of the posts first and then to figure out what I know and want, don't see another option right now. Good luck! |
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Post by question on Apr 17, 2012 7:48:50 GMT -5
It's not a joke. My intelligence is too low to not be whined about, and my... well, you know what , is too big to not be bragged about. False statement + false statement. Since there is no objective measure for either statement, you must be evaluating both relative to yourself. I therefore must on account of your first statement thank you for giving me reason to feel better about myself and at the same time I shall express my sincere sympathy to you. However, concerning your second statement, given that only a man of hopelessly insufficient size would ever feel the desire to belittle that of his opponent without even knowing what exact numbers he is competing with, it must be that your second statement is a lie, which is why again you shall receive my sincere sympathy. |
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