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Post by andrew on Mar 20, 2012 11:29:55 GMT -5
I really wasnt trying to be awkward, Im just trying to look at the expectations here....I mean you dont want to be working towards something that either a) isnt possible, or b) isnt what you really want anyway, do you? Practically speaking, when your kid calls out to you, and you recognize your name and that you are being called, do you think that that can happen without any sense at all of your individuality? Maybe it would help if I say what I experience, and see if that resonates with you. I experience myself as connected to all things and all people at all times. However, I do experience there being 'another', I do experience a sense of there being an 'me here' and 'you there'. So, although I dont experience myself as separate (or unconnected) in any way from anyone or anything else, neither would I say that all sense of there being a 'Me' has permanently disappeared. I still sense myself, an individuality, in relation to 'another' at times, but its not a strong abiding sense of 'Me' (or self), its more a periphery or fleeting sense that appears and disappears regularly on a moment by moment basis. Does that resonate, or are you looking for something different to that? You experience yourself as connected to everything? Yes. Or to simplify...I experience connectivity. There is nothing I experience as being 'separate' from me. |
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Post by esponja on Mar 20, 2012 23:15:19 GMT -5
What do you mean when you talk about Connection? What you will probably like to hear is that I'm seeing some manifestation of thoughts, it's probably because I'm becoming more aware but sometimes it is quite crazy (from the mundane to the insane). Well, what I mean is that I no longer experience a sense of existing as distinctly separate from anything else. I no longer experience myself as existing as an objective knower or observer of an external world that exists outside of 'me'. I no longer experience an abiding and distinct sense of me 'here' (and you 'there'). The boundary between 'me' and 'you' has been blurred, and there is an abiding sense of 'connection' or 'connectivity' to the all. Having said that, if someone I know sees me on the other side of the street and calls my name, I still experience a sense of there being something 'other' than me. I still respond to the call. So....whereas in the old days, I used to experience separation as dominant (and connection as being vaguely in the background), these days the connection is dominant and the separation is vaguely on the periphery. And I experience this connection whether there is thought-ing happening (as it is now I am talking to you) or whether I am feeling the breeze on my face. For me, one is not necessarily better than the other. As long as the thoughts arise primarily from connection rather than from separation (or ego), I am quite happy to be thought-ing -the thought-ing doesnt interfere with the connection. A clue when thoughts are arising from separation is that they are crappy thoughts (for example sulky thoughts tend to be crappy thoughts), and not 'inspired' thoughts. If I am thinking crappy thoughts, then I might well shift my attention to the breeze, or I might well shift my attention to a wider perspective. Or I might do something else entirely (there are lots of different ways of dealing with crappy thoughts). That's cool. Shifting focus is a v good idea. |
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