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Post by arisha on Feb 22, 2012 1:49:03 GMT -5
Why do peeps think Oneness is the ultimate realization? What if you don't know about some other possible realization?
Imagine that God is drawing lines on a sheet of paper, and each line is a separate being. (I better say right now that God is "drawing" the lines not like some separate being, but with His Energy. How He is doing that we don't know). There are so many lines that they make this paper look completely covered with light. When the realization happens you see and feel that light in the way you are not a separate line now, but the light itself. You think it's Oneness.
But God is still separate, though you don't know about that. You are illusioned again.
God again is different. Just because this is how He IS. You can never know everything about Him. There is the other side of the "sheet of paper" He is drawing on. The other side is also Him. And He is not only that. But what else we cannot know.
The realization which you think is Oneness is not the Oneness you think it is.
Why can't it be like this?
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Post by relinquish on Feb 22, 2012 2:06:39 GMT -5
Hi Arisha  Tell me, if you take a good hard look at THIS in the most ALL-encompassing possible way, what do you see? |
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Post by arisha on Feb 22, 2012 2:13:54 GMT -5
What do you mean by THIS? All that exist? If you mean by THIS all that IS then, answering your question, I see a mystery which can never be solved by anyone.
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Post by runstill on Feb 22, 2012 2:16:30 GMT -5
Why do peeps think Oneness is the ultimate realization? What if you don't know about some other possible realization? Imagine that God is drawing lines on a sheet of paper, and each line is a separate being. (I better say right now that God is "drawing" the lines not like some separate being, but with His Energy. How He is doing that we don't know). There are so many lines that they make this paper look completely covered with light. When the realization happens you see and feel that light in the way you are not a separate line now, but the light itself. You think it's Oneness. But God is still separate, though you don't know about that. You are illusioned again. God again is different. Just because this is how He IS. You can never know everything about Him. There is the other side of the "sheet of paper" He is drawing on. The other side is also Him. And He is not only that. But what else we cannot know. The realization which you think is Oneness is not the Oneness you think it is. Why can't it be like this? You are God playing with God, call it Divine masturbation... ;D |
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Post by arisha on Feb 22, 2012 2:18:06 GMT -5
My question is different.
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Post by relinquish on Feb 22, 2012 2:18:29 GMT -5
Yeah. ALL that exists. Even God. I know we can't KNOW of everything that exists, but consider the totallity of all that IS, including God.
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Post by arisha on Feb 22, 2012 2:19:51 GMT -5
Mystery which can NEVER be solved by anybody, - this is what I see.
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Post by relinquish on Feb 22, 2012 2:21:38 GMT -5
Fair enough. It can never be solved by anyone. It's an eternal mystery. But is it not ONE eternal mystery? Can you allow yourself to dissolve in this eternal not-knowing?
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Post by arisha on Feb 22, 2012 2:23:15 GMT -5
It won't add anything to knowing. Only one more illusion again.
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Post by relinquish on Feb 22, 2012 2:27:40 GMT -5
An admission to not knowing is a laying down of all projections.
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Post by arisha on Feb 22, 2012 2:31:42 GMT -5
At least I don't deceive myself about this very projection.
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Post by relinquish on Feb 22, 2012 2:38:15 GMT -5
Are you still carrying those projections about morality?
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Post by arisha on Feb 22, 2012 2:41:27 GMT -5
Yes, I do. At least I have my unusual experiences due to it.
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Post by relinquish on Feb 22, 2012 2:45:54 GMT -5
Well that's good then If it makes you happy, hang on to it. |
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Post by arisha on Feb 22, 2012 2:52:21 GMT -5
Is it possible that the idea about Oneness is an illusion, and the realization that happens is as illusioned as everything?
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