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Post by relinquish on Feb 22, 2012 2:55:50 GMT -5
It not just possible, that is EXACTLY how it is. Knowing that doesn't make it feel any less blissfull, though  |
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Post by arisha on Feb 22, 2012 2:59:57 GMT -5
What does this feeling (that this illusion about Oneness is blissful) depend on, and is due to?
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Post by relinquish on Feb 22, 2012 3:04:14 GMT -5
I don't really know, actually.
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Post by relinquish on Feb 22, 2012 3:12:39 GMT -5
Actually, I would say that it depends upon ones conditioning and egoic structure.
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Post by arisha on Feb 22, 2012 3:27:15 GMT -5
Do you think it's possible that different types of Oneness may happen to different beings? For ex., if a being has not 5, or 6 , but even more senses, can the Oneness be different for them?
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Post by arisha on Feb 22, 2012 3:47:27 GMT -5
In other words can happening of Oneness be changed significantly at some other level, not human?
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Post by enigma on Feb 22, 2012 4:16:43 GMT -5
In other words can happening of Oneness be changed significantly at some other level, not human? Why does it seem so important to you to show others how they don't know, can't know anything? That's all I hear you talk about. Does others thinking they realize something cause a problem for you? |
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Post by arisha on Feb 22, 2012 4:23:48 GMT -5
I am just asking my questions.
What problem does it cause for you?
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Post by freddy on Feb 22, 2012 4:40:12 GMT -5
I am just asking my questions. What problem does it cause for you? Arisha, God is rightly looking out of your eyes, it cannot be any other consciousness looking out of your eyes because there is only one consciousness, not 7 billion different consciousness. You are pure awareness, infinite consciousness right now and infinite consciousness is imagining appearences forever, for such is its nature. But as long as you think of yourself as a separate personal individual you will not see this obvious fact. Pure awareness is this what is left when all concepts of personality are gone. You shine forever, you cannot escape the awareness you are. Try it. Try to pin awareness down, try to find a moment you were not aware. You cannot escape yourself. |
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Post by arisha on Feb 22, 2012 4:46:27 GMT -5
So, there are limits about the truth. Truthing is allowed only in case some postulates are not disproved. If they ARE disproved we stop this activity, and pretend we don't know, don't notice that we stop it.
Is it my fault that your truthing doesn't happen?
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Post by enigma on Feb 22, 2012 5:56:33 GMT -5
I am just asking my questions. What problem does it cause for you? I'm just asking questions. What problem does it cause for you? |
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Post by relinquish on Feb 22, 2012 6:00:01 GMT -5
Truth is not something that 'happens'. Truth just is. Truth can only 'be true'. Your question makes no sense, and no one said anything was your fault.
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Post by sherry on Feb 22, 2012 6:21:48 GMT -5
arisha
as frustrating as it might seem, This cannot be understood by mind or by analysis (which is of the mind)
mind (the flow of thoughts or ego that a seeming individual experiences and identifies with) appears in This
therefore mind is only a (very) limited part of This and cannot be used to understand This
....an analogy would be taking a word out of a sentence and trying to understand the sentence by the definition/analysis of that one word...
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Post by arisha on Feb 22, 2012 6:29:09 GMT -5
I am just asking my questions. What problem does it cause for you? Arisha, God is rightly looking out of your eyes, it cannot be any other consciousness looking out of your eyes because there is only one consciousness, not 7 billion different consciousness. You are pure awareness, infinite consciousness right now and infinite consciousness is imagining appearences forever, for such is its nature. But as long as you think of yourself as a separate personal individual you will not see this obvious fact. Pure awareness is this what is left when all concepts of personality are gone. You shine forever, you cannot escape the awareness you are. Try it. Try to pin awareness down, try to find a moment you were not aware. You cannot escape yourself. It sounds very good, and calming. And I'd be glad to stop thinking and to accept it. But the experiences I have show me that it is better to be open to a NEW TRUTH, always. Doesn't matter how hard it can be. I understand what you say about awareness , and I DON'T think about myself as a separate personal individual. But pure awareness when all concepts are gone still happens when you are alive. So, it is not an ultimate realization. It is not Oneness yet. And one doesn't feel calm when being enlightened. It happens differently. You cannot escape yourself. True. You won't be able to deceive yourself about the realization when it happens. It's better to be ready for this enlightenment. |
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Post by arisha on Feb 22, 2012 6:41:14 GMT -5
In other words can happening of Oneness be changed significantly at some other level, not human? Why does it seem so important to you to show others how they don't know, can't know anything? That's all I hear you talk about. Does others thinking they realize something cause a problem for you? I don't have a problem with it. I am just taking part in the discussion on the forum. Your asking questions is not a problem as well. I always try to answer, and if I don't know I say about that. |
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