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Post by andrew on Feb 4, 2012 16:22:33 GMT -5
As an example....what about this FJ...how about you manifest this in the space of a year (or two at the outside)
A joyful, passionate and loving relationship with a beautiful woman that shares the same values as you. Work that is joyful and fulfilling for you and which allows you to express who you are as a being of honesty, openness and love. A joyful and vibrant space of your 'own' to share with your partner.
In the process of achieving this, you will also achieve the enlightenment you have been seeking. You just wont notice it. There would of course be steps to take, and it could get bumpy. Its hard to say what you would be required to do in order to achieve those goals, it could mean moving to another part of the country or even leaving the country....it could mean going and getting a job in the short term, it could mean going to some satsangs, it could mean meditating 8 hours a day. I dont know. The point is that when the goal is compelling and it feels good, we become willing to take the required steps, even if the steps are uncomfortable. We become willing to sacrifice in the short term in order to achieve the goal.
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Post by esponja on Feb 4, 2012 16:39:35 GMT -5
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Post by andrew on Feb 4, 2012 16:40:40 GMT -5
Can you summarize the points esponja? It would save me watching it. |
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Post by andrew on Feb 4, 2012 16:57:37 GMT -5
You might not understand Andrew what I mean. I mean I want to learn the best way to manifest a material object in this 3D world. Like a hobby. How to do this? Hmmm. Thats just not something I can really help you with. I could tell you how other people have said they do it, but Ive never manifested in the way that you are suggesting exactly, so I wouldnt really be talking from experience. Having said that it might be worth a trip to the library sometime and reading Abraham-Hicks 'Ask and it is Given'. |
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Post by andrew on Feb 4, 2012 16:59:33 GMT -5
While you are living in the imaginary realms, feel the emotions and physical sensations as genuinely as possible...and pay close attention to the rising of the realms in your imagination, and the disappearing of them as you move into the next realm...watch closely how all the realms of thought imagination rise from and disappear into emptyness as you imagine them and then move on. Even though you are taking Freejoy away from me again you mean man, I see value in what you are suggesting here. |
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Post by andrew on Feb 4, 2012 17:17:33 GMT -5
Even though you are taking Freejoy away from me again you mean man, I see value in what you are suggesting here. Keep it to yourself please...some lessons are best learned organically through experience and direct insight of seeing. Im sorry Steven, but just as you see fit to guide FJ in the best way you can, if he asks a question, then I may well offer my bit of guidance too. I fully support the idea of learning organically through experience, but I have my own ideas as to how FJ could do that. |
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Post by therealfake on Feb 4, 2012 18:07:16 GMT -5
Poor freejoy folks fighting for his attention and yet it has more to do with unconsciousness then presence.
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Post by andrew on Feb 4, 2012 18:51:36 GMT -5
Poor freejoy folks fighting for his attention and yet it has more to do with unconsciousness then presence. Fighting for his attention seems a little strong. Is that what is popularly meant by 'seeing giraffes'? |
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Post by enigma on Feb 4, 2012 20:55:29 GMT -5
Tolle teaches how to manifest wealth??  Im not sure if you are using 'wealth' there to mean money or abundance. Tolle didnt talk about manifesting 'stuff'. The best manifestation teachers arent into 'stuff' as such. FJ was clearly talking about money. |
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Post by enigma on Feb 4, 2012 21:11:37 GMT -5
I didn't get to see the video yet. Seems to me we are little creation machines. Even these words are my seemingly individual wave function. The 'we' to which you refer is itself a creation. Creation happens. You are not the creator. |
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Post by therealfake on Feb 4, 2012 21:26:43 GMT -5
Poor freejoy folks fighting for his attention and yet it has more to do with unconsciousness then presence. Fighting for his attention seems a little strong. Is that what is popularly meant by 'seeing giraffes'? No it's what's commonly referred to as ego.  |
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Post by angela on Feb 4, 2012 22:08:38 GMT -5
i love adya's stuff about manifesting, when some lady asked him about 'the secret' and what he thought about it. his response was basically that the best thing to put active time into manifesting was "thy will" and that any other kinds of attention to manifesting was just another excuse of the mind to argue with THIS and to focus on the imagined do-er. i'll look and see which satsang this was from if i can remember and i'll post it.  |
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Post by Beingist on Feb 4, 2012 22:09:53 GMT -5
i love adya's stuff about manifesting, when some lady asked him about 'the secret' and what he thought about it. his response was basically that the best thing to put active time into manifesting was "thy will" and that any other kinds of attention to manifesting was just another excuse of the mind to argue with THIS and to focus on the imagined do-er. i'll look and see which satsang this was from if i can remember and i'll post it. Yes, please. |
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Post by andrew on Feb 5, 2012 2:55:27 GMT -5
Fighting for his attention seems a little strong. Is that what is popularly meant by 'seeing giraffes'? No it's what's commonly referred to as ego. Well, thats very honest of you to admit that your comment was a bit egoic. |
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Post by andrew on Feb 5, 2012 2:56:36 GMT -5
i love adya's stuff about manifesting, when some lady asked him about 'the secret' and what he thought about it. his response was basically that the best thing to put active time into manifesting was "thy will" and that any other kinds of attention to manifesting was just another excuse of the mind to argue with THIS and to focus on the imagined do-er. i'll look and see which satsang this was from if i can remember and i'll post it. Manifesting ''thy will'' sounds like a good thing to manifest. |
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