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Post by arisha on Feb 7, 2012 3:10:49 GMT -5
It's just that 4 days ago you made a statement to the effect that you're being controlled against your will by telepathic hypnosis. That seems like quite a big deal to me. Is dealing with that immediate situation not a top priority for you? What is your inner guru saying about it? The thing is that one of the possible dangers in "killing the ego" and being all about serving others is that you can make yourself quite vulnerable to people/entities who want to make use of that, make use of you. For the first time in my life I hear about the danger of "being all about serving others", and about being more vulnerable to people/entities because of that. Especially to entities . OK, people may try to use such a person, and make him/her "serve" them till he/she faints of exhaustion. But entities... How can entities be involved ? After killing the ego ( though not completely, not to be used by some people and entities), I noticed that strange things started to happen. All I was thinking about, trying to accomplish, dreaming, - started taking place. They call it manifestations here. I didn't know about the word at that time. The manifestations often happened in a funny way , as if the Universe had a sense of humor. Thus, for ex., preparing for the exams I learned just 5 topics instead of 30, and I always managed to be given the topic I learned. For one of the exams I learned 6 topics, because the total was 40, and I was given #6. The numbers of the examination cards were in such a succession as 3,4,5,6....8,9. The 7 was missing, and I thought that at the last exam #7 would not be given, because of too many coincidences which had already happened, but it was! I started living in the circumstances which were subjected to my desires (or rather thoughts which appeared as desires) though I did nothing for it. Synchronicities happened everywhere. I met people who were psychic,and who helped me, though I didn't ask them about it. When I wanted something to happen it always happened, though it seemed to be impossible even to hope for that. I manifested the most prestigious things I had my dreams about, - and did it being absolutely unaware of how to do it. It looked like some natural way to create all that stuff. As my ego was almost completely killed I actually didn't desire anything that happened. I just was having the constant bliss, and glimpses of thoughts about this or that. They were not like the wishes to have something, or to do something, but those were thoughts-feelings. Both thoughts and feelings, simultaneously. And all happened! At last I manifested MrG. Or maybe it was he who found me because he wanted to use me. It was a big mistake of mine to enter the Meditation Club, trust the guru, and join the group meditations. I think it happened not because of the "ego killing", but vice versa. Because the ego was still alive, and was able to be happy about the wonders and miracles that were happening everywhere, instead of being absolutely indifferent about them. If I were by myself, without that Meditation Club and MrG, I think I would be able to pass on to the new stage later. But I rapidly started and was too open for the new experience, because MrG knew how to make me being interested: with the Magnet. It's one more experience, about the Magnet, it started before I met MrG, and he used it to tie me , to drain me, to capture me. I lost my freedom. If you haven't experienced something similar to what happened to me after I met him, you won't believe. You'll be thinking that I am crazy, mentally ill, etc. Because of too unusual of an experience. That's ok, I don't care. I just share my story, a real story, - about what can happen if you don't kill your ego completely, and let it flourishing at some stage of your spiritual endeavor . |
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Post by joel on Feb 7, 2012 12:09:11 GMT -5
How do you know they work? I said they work, finally. Aktchually anyone can be enlightened just meditating on a cup of coffee. quote] Always a challenge to see someone with great suffering advising others how to get enlightened! Such is the mish-mash of a seeking mind that has not realized our true nature:) I exalt you! |
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Post by arisha on Feb 8, 2012 1:17:12 GMT -5
Do you already know what our true nature is?
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Post by arisha on Feb 8, 2012 5:26:11 GMT -5
I continue about the method.
This is a citation about Kabbalah which also points out to the necessity of changing our egoistic nature into altruistic, in order to be enlightened. You will read about it in any spiritual system, and you cannot avoid it, or substitute it.
"As its object of study, Kabbalah takes the only creation, the only thing that exists besides the Creator – man’s self, or “I,” and researches it. This science breaks down the self into parts, explains the structure and properties of each part, and the purpose of its creation. Kabbalah explains how every part of man’s self, called “the soul,” can be changed so that one would reach the goal of creation, the state desired by both the Creator and man himself, provided he realizes it.
There is not a science in the world that can describe, either graphically or analytically, through use of formulas, our sensations and desires, and how diverse and multifaceted they are. That is how fickle, unpredictable, and absolutely distinct they are in everyone. This is because our desires surface in our mind and sensations in a gradual order, in a certain sequence, so we may acknowledge and correct them.
Our self is our essence, the only thing that characterizes an individual. However, it is ever-changing, and what remains is merely an external, animate shell. This is why it is said that every moment man is born anew. Yet, if this is so, how should we regard one another, and how should we perceive ourselves? How can we possibly “stabilize” anything within and outside of us if we are constantly changing, and all that we perceive is a function of our inner state?
The Creator is the source of Light (pleasure). Those who draw near Him sense Him as such. Such people, who draw near the Creator and thereby sense Him, are called Kabbalists (from the word Lekabel – to receive the Creator’s Light). One can draw near the Creator only through equivalence of desires. The Creator is incorporeal, and can only be sensed with our heart. Naturally, what is meant by “heart” is not the pump that mobilizes blood through our veins, but the center of man’s every sensation.
However, one cannot sense the Creator with just his heart, but only with a small point in it. And to feel this point, man must develop it himself. When one develops and expands this point, the sensation of the Creator, His Light, can enter it.
Our heart is the sum of our egoistic desires, and the small point within it is part of the spiritual, altruistic desire implanted from Above by the Creator Himself. It is our task to nurture this embryo of a spiritual desire to such an extent that it (and not our egoistic nature) will determine all of our aspirations. At the same time, the egoistic desire of the heart will surrender, contract, wither, and diminish.
After being born in our world, one is obliged to change his heart from egoistic to altruistic, while living in this world. This is the purpose of his life, the reason behind his appearance in this world, and it is the goal of all creation. A complete replacement of egoistic desires with altruistic ones is called “the End of Correction.” Every individual and all of humanity must attain it in this world together. Until one achieves this, he will continue to be born into this world. The Torah and all the prophets speak exclusively of this. The method of correction is called “Kabbalah.”
One can change his desires only if one wishes to change them. Man is created an absolute egoist; he can neither adopt different desires from other people or from the surrounding world – as his surroundings are just like him – nor does he have any link to the spiritual worlds, since such a link is possible only through mutual properties. The spiritual can only be perceived in altruistic desires."
Kabbalah was written about 2000 years ago.
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Post by desertrat on Feb 8, 2012 11:53:06 GMT -5
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Post by arisha on Feb 8, 2012 23:43:42 GMT -5
These sites don't give any profound knowledge about Kabbalah. You can find authentic texts on the following sites: www.kabbalah.info/eng/content/view/frame/2858?/eng/content/view/full/2858&mainwww.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/kabbalah.htmlThis is the quotation from the site: "SCREEN Malchut (man) can receive the Light only in anti-egoistic desires. If such desires appear in Malchut as a result of the realization that egoism is her enemy (with the help of Kabbalah), to the extent of her hatred for it, Malchut can repel the egoistic pleasures for the sake of spiritual perfection, i.e., similarity to the Creator in her desire to please Him and act for His sake. This ability to repel selfish reception of pleasure is called “a screen,” and the repelled pleasure is called “Returning Light,” and the pleasure that comes to Malchut is called “Direct Light.” It is precisely in the repelled pleasure, meaning in the desire to bestow whole-heartedly, selflessly, that man can sense the Creator’s Light and Supreme Knowledge. Since Malchut (man’s egoism) has to repel pleasure from the five parts of her egoism, the reflecting screen must also consist of five parts. Hence, it creates five parts of the Returning Light. The five parts in Malchut are called by the names of the Sefirot from which they receive. The five kinds of Direct Light are called NRNHY: Nefesh, Ruach, Neshama, Haya and Yechida. The Light that emanates from the Creator descends in the following order: Yechida Haya Neshama Ruach Nefesh PARTZUF After Malchut reflects the Light (pleasure), she decides to receive it in order to delight the Creator, because He wants Malchut to receive pleasure and feel Him. The reflection of all the incoming pleasure is called Rosh (head). The partial reception of the Light to the extent of one’s anti-egoistic powers is called Toch (interior). The unfulfilled desires (due to the absence of a screen on them) are called Sof (end) This is the structure of the soul (Kli, vessel, corrected altruistic desire, Partzuf or spiritual body). We call the parts of the spiritual structure by the names of our physiological body: head, body, and limbs. There are five parts in the Rosh (head): skull – Galgalta, eyes – Eynaim, ears – Awznaim, nose – Hotem, and mouth – Peh. There are five parts in the Guf (body) from the mouth – Peh to the navel – Tabur. In the limbs, there are five parts from the navel to the toes ." |
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Post by desertrat on Feb 9, 2012 10:52:39 GMT -5
I posted the links for reference , so that any one that did not know about the kabbalah would have some back ground info . If one wants the magic part of the kabbalah there have a lot of books written and there is a lot on the net . Most of the golden dawn is based on the kabbalah . One guy that has written a lot on the golden dawn and the kabbalha is en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Michael_Kraig www.llewellyn.com/author.php?author_id=2377 The links you posted look like more of Jewish mystical tradiction than magic , as I stated there are 2 parts to the kabblah . desert rat |
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Post by arisha on Feb 10, 2012 1:20:57 GMT -5
Yes, this magic tradition is what always attracts attention because it promises the personal power grow. But will it grow? I know many people who think they will make their personal power grow, but they remain on the same level, without any real results. Because those books are actually about nothing. They use the interest of the readers in the things, but they don't open the secrets of magical techniques. And it's not bad, but good. Otherwise how many more problems we all could have because of the widely used magic ! Can those secrets be taught? I think, no. To have some valid results while using magic a person needs to be born with psychic powers. They cannot be taught. But they can happen with a person who studies the mystical part of Kabbalah. Because this mystical Kabbalah opens the Channel which doesn't exist without it.
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Post by desertrat on Feb 10, 2012 10:44:32 GMT -5
On the magic part of the kabbalaha or any other system not working or making things worse . It is my belief that we all have repressed stuff , beliefs , emotions , hurt, fear , stuff from past lives and this one , ect . Untill you get rid of all this stuff , it is hard to make any system work . On the law of attraction , if you have a lot of repressed hurt or guilt , that is what you will attract . It does not matter what one believes , we all create our own reality from the repressed crap burried deep inside . Kabblah , l.o.a. ,creative visualization , and many other systems , different methods working through the same source . desert rat
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Post by arisha on Feb 11, 2012 3:31:56 GMT -5
Yes, I know about that. I was also said that the system wouldn't work if there was some repressed stuff, beliefs, emotions, etc. But who told me that ? Who told you that? Those who were interested in me and you being interested in attending their seminars, reading their books, taking part in their events... They would promise you even more if it could help them collect more money. They say that it is the repressed stuff that doesn't let a person grow. They will always be pointing to that repressed stuff, because it's very easy and simple to explain everybody's failure in magic and the like. "You are still having that repressed stuff", - this is what can they keep on repeating. Of course they will be repeating it, if a person comes to them again and again.
But I was told by psychics who I can trust that those psychic abilities cannot be taught. Do you know a single person who had been nothing, and then became something in magic? Can those gurus show you such a person? They cannot.
Do we all create our own reality? Do you really believe in that? It's an abominable lie!! If people could have created their own reality, do you think they would get ill, and die, and lose their money, and fail in having what they want? What are those gurus saying when LOA doesn't work? Their answer, as usual, is: "There was some repressed stuff still, somewhere deep inside you, - this is the reason why it hasn't worked."
Everything is predetermined. If the "stars" don't want, a person may try , and try, and try, but the repressed stuff doesn't want them to be free of it. And this LOA, or magic will never work for them.
The only thing they can do is to try to open their own Channel which will connect them to the Universe (not via magic,or LOA, or the repressed stuff deleting), but via the methods that were invented long ago, checked with the time ( not during 20or even 50 years, but MANY THOUSAND YEARS).
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Post by desertrat on Feb 11, 2012 13:41:23 GMT -5
What you call your channel to the universe is what I call my higher self . On people making money of letting go of repressed stuff , I gave $15-20 for a book around 20 years ago (isbn 0-9629295-0-6) . All any one needs is the basic info you can do this your self . People do get sick , lose there money , die , ect. its from unconscious stuff , not conscious thoughts . One method is to visualize your higher self as a point of white light in deep space , and ask your higher self to fill , lets say all your hate or anger with white/golden light , let it erase it and let it go . desert rat
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Post by arisha on Feb 11, 2012 16:09:53 GMT -5
People do get sick , lose there money , die , ect. its from unconscious stuff , not conscious thoughts . One method is to visualize your higher self as a point of white light in deep space , and ask your higher self to fill , lets say all your hate or anger with white/golden light , let it erase it and let it go . desert rat That is why I say that LOA doesn't work, and cannot work : the unconscious stuff will always predominate over conscious thoughts. Yes, the method you are talking about is a good one, it's the same as the method I am talking about, it helps create the higher self channel, but more conscious thoughts can make it work better, maybe. Those conscious thoughts are also predetermined. That's why some people can grow, others - cannot. Other thoughts happen to be their priority, the right thoughts don't work for them. Can it be changed with the conscious efforts? I really don't know. Everything is predetermined, though we don't notice that. But it doesn't mean that I/you/everybody should stop looking for the light. I will be giving the info about the method that works, though it is also predetermined. The life will go on in the way it is predetermined. LOA won't actually work, though some people will hope it works,- and it is also predetermined. Etc., etc. |
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Post by desertrat on Feb 11, 2012 16:57:59 GMT -5
I have heard that some people do incarnate in to this life for a purpose , like a specal needs kid to parents to teach them unconditional love . Then there is karma , but as Dic* Sutphen (*=k) says "knowledge erases karma " I think with knowledge and work any thing can be over come . desert rat
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Post by arisha on Feb 11, 2012 20:48:24 GMT -5
Yes, if you are predestined for it.
What is karma? It is the information which is in the genes. It can be erased, and changed, and the genes can be improved, - but only in case the thoughts that are outside the receiver, the brain, will be those thoughts which make a person do the right things for it. We don't create the thoughts. They come from the outside. We are just the receivers, the marionettes, and all we can do is to be witnessing our thoughts, our actions, our life till it lasts. When we think we are doing something ourselves, and make our choices, - it's an illusion which had existed before we could witness it, it had already happened before we became aware of it, though the time between happening and awareness is too short to recognize what actually is going on.
Sure, people would dislike it if they are said they are marionettes, they would feel uncomfortable about it. But it changes nothing if they dislike it.
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