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Post by Beingist on Feb 3, 2012 18:37:27 GMT -5
In my experience, guilt and guilt inculcation only feeds the ego, so I hafta disagree on that one. Not to knock religious peeps, but religions themselves don't seem to do much to really help those peeps. Like the line out of the Guess Who song, "too many churches, and not enough Truth". Well, I didn't mean that it helps them, I meant that it helps the rest of us. Hehe. Oh, well, if you put it that way ....  |
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Post by arisha on Feb 4, 2012 2:12:23 GMT -5
What is annoying about these Yama/Niyama? What is bad about teaching them? I don't recall saying there was anything bad about it. I'm glad for religious rules and guilt indoctrination cause it keeps egos from running amok. Why religious rules? Aren't these rules just for the everyday use of every person without any religion? Aren't they very much important for those interested in spiritual things? These rules are the basis of the spiritual grow!!! Why so much talking that the methods suck, and only joking about the bases of the spiritual grow??? Sure, the methods suck without what is crucial . Even any normal person follows these rules, and they are the natural part of their life. On the forum like this there should be many people who understand the importance of these rules. If people want to show that they are so much spiritually minded they are supposed to be looking not just for the 'spiritual fun', I guess. But to take things seriously. Otherwise it's just another pop-spirituality, spiritual pop corn. |
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Post by arisha on Feb 4, 2012 2:24:26 GMT -5
Will my age help you grow spiritually?
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Post by arisha on Feb 4, 2012 3:18:53 GMT -5
I don 't think my age could help you better understand me. I am here for the better understanding of the spiritual subjects. What don't you understand about me and my age that prevents you from discussing these spiritual topics?
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Post by desertrat on Feb 4, 2012 11:39:37 GMT -5
Arisha , you might state some of your back ground , your beliefs , and what you want to do . We are hear with different belief systems , and agendas . I see God as the creative life force of the cosmos , and not an old man on a cloud . My belief on the astral in your thread on the after life, and we do have souls that survive death . There are some good posts hear meditationtime.grou.ps/talks . On methods , if they work , fine , if not try something else . desert rat ps if you want a link to one of many self hypnosis cd/dvd sites check out http://www.dic*sutphen.com *is a k , this site changes Richard to penis (strange) |
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Post by nobody on Feb 4, 2012 12:02:35 GMT -5
http://www.dic*sutphen.com *is a k , this site changes penis to penis (strange) hahahaha. yeah, the filter on this forum goes to great lengths to protect our innocence. |
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Post by jasonl on Feb 4, 2012 12:58:48 GMT -5
http://www.dic*sutphen.com *is a k , this site changes penis to penis (strange) hahahaha. yeah, the filter on this forum goes to great lengths to protect our innocence. I learned the good ol.d period trick back in my online poker days when i would tell peeps to fuck off on a regular basis. On a side note, I am happy to say i just learned how to quote posts like everyone else  (buts its a conditional happiness) |
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Post by desertrat on Feb 4, 2012 18:05:15 GMT -5
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Post by arisha on Feb 4, 2012 19:40:18 GMT -5
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Post by nobodyishome on Feb 4, 2012 22:53:01 GMT -5
There doesn't need to be a subtle shift in perception for enlightenment; there doesn't need to be any change at all. Change is impossible; whatever its face, eternity is always this. Enlightenment - awakening - is no more nor less than this, whether it's before thought judges it or not; the judgmental thought is this, too. The endless moment is this, always this, no matter what the mind seems to be making of it. Awakening is ordinary, mundane existence, just as it's always been, but very few minds will believe this.
There doesn't need to be a deepening of present awareness. There doesn't need to be more and more alpha waves, out-of body experiences, or the becoming of bliss and love itself. It can be about loving all, or falling in love with everybody, or frankly remaining a little wary. Although these apparent experiences may, indeed, occur, they are no less or no more this than anything else. This is all experience. Just as it always has been, is, and will be.
There is no correct method. All methods are correct. Some methods are correct in that they teach us of their inappropriateness, or untruthfulness. Life itself, exactly as presented, is always the best spiritual practice. However the story seems to unravel is unimportant. Once the pointlessness of life's story is apprehended, perhaps life's story can finally be revelled in. Perhaps realising that nothing matters in and of itself makes everything precious, in and of itself. Perhaps the loving feelings in the satsang or the therapy spread to the important relationships already a part of the story: spouse, children, girlfriend, boyfriend, mother, father, friends. Perhaps without the fear of certain dreaded outcomes, intimacy becomes natural. But even the faltering, human attempts at union with others (who are not truly other) is also beauty manifest. The muddling attempts are This; the blissful, honest communion is This; there is no escaping This. You are This.
OK, I've been looking for a decent embeddable clip of this scene for a couple of years...it could be better, but it'll have to do - apologies for the ads. WHY do the Coen brothers continue to make fabulous movies, when M. Night Shyamalan seems to have gone completely off the rails? It's just not fair. There is no need for me to add to the accolades The Big Lebowski has garnered over the years, so I'll just say that this scene is the best crafted character introduction I've ever had the pleasure of witnessing: the socks...the nail...the purple uniform...the goatee...the hairnet...the tongue! Jesus is definitely already here, and in a big way. Enjoy.youtu.be/uRoR0-y9D64The above words and video are credited to a special Lady
Suzanne Foxton. Her super duper blog is atnothingexistsdespiteappearances.blogspot.com/NBisH
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Post by arisha on Feb 5, 2012 0:53:05 GMT -5
True, that is true.
All methods work, finally.
I am saying about the method which gives the results faster.
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Post by exactamente on Feb 5, 2012 6:28:04 GMT -5
True, that is true. All methods work, finally. I am saying about the method which gives the results faster. How do you know they work? |
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Post by charliegee on Feb 5, 2012 9:04:42 GMT -5
there is a madness to my method ...
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Post by desertrat on Feb 5, 2012 12:14:22 GMT -5
This type of yoga is one of many , I have used kundlini my self , it works ok . Many people use hatha yoga , any one that says there method is the only one is full of ***** . If you like it and it works for you fine . If you want other methods just say so . Deep breathing and visualization work good also . desert rat |
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Post by joel on Feb 5, 2012 13:04:13 GMT -5
We forgot our true nature, and distract ourselves away from it, keeping it covered over because we fear it, or we need to a self that will fit into the world around us. Who can be honest about this enough to see through the illusion? Contemplation is remembering it, and meditation is turning away from distraction. Who can turn their attention to it fully, and do the work? The desire for the desirelessness is a common denominator to shifting awareness of a self to the pure awareness of the present moment. Who knows how to bring on this desire, and allow it when it happens?
That desire will consume us, burn off attachments, fears, karma, and all lesser desires. That's the method for freedom. Anything else is just technique, or work.
Please whack my statement. I will exalt you, because it will help me to grow deeper.
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(buts its a conditional happiness)
