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Post by zendancer on Dec 7, 2011 22:41:10 GMT -5
Well, Tat has asked the right questions. Let's see where it goes from here. You never know when something might get noticed. Uh oh. There's that word again.
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Post by lemongrass on Dec 7, 2011 22:55:19 GMT -5
I'm loving the word play on this page
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Post by gurthbruins on Dec 8, 2011 2:29:05 GMT -5
tathagata wrote:
Maybe by looking in the wrong direction?
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Post by stepvhen on Dec 8, 2011 10:27:18 GMT -5
First step towards authentic human life, lived without slavery to self is to see that there is no self, to actually notice it as you would notice that your nose is always in the center of your every visual scene What sees that there is no self? And what will type the answer into the keyboard? And HOW does one "see" that there is no self? If there is no self, which is possible, then seeing (which obviously does exist I mean we're all seeing this right now) must be unrelated to a self. What if it was? What if seeing happened, but there was no "self" that owned that experience? Better question. What if Led Zeppelin got back together? |
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Post by tathagata on Dec 8, 2011 11:37:14 GMT -5
Goin to California, with it's wistful daydream of a better life beside a girl with love in her eyes and flowers in her hair, the exultation that "life is not as hard at it seems", and it's groundbreaking overlays of complex guitar rhythms, is a longtime favorite of this no self lol
Although I would imagine that When the Levee Breaks, leaving "no place left to go", might be a favorite of the no self meditators heheh
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Post by woz on Dec 8, 2011 11:45:30 GMT -5
Goin to California, with it's wistful daydream of a better life beside a girl with love in her eyes and flowers in her hair, the exultation that "life is not as hard at it seems", and it's groundbreaking overlays of complex guitar rhythms, is a longtime favorite of this no self lol Although I would imagine that When the Levee Breaks, leaving "no place left to go", might be a favorite of the no self meditators heheh I got caught by the auto censor on the post I put up a while ago. The censor made it worse with the word it selected.  Know what I like about Zeppelin? Their roots were the blues. When The Levee Breaks is an old blues tune. Lotta depth in their music. |
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Post by tathagata on Dec 8, 2011 12:14:22 GMT -5
Yeah... They are a blues band through and through
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Post by stepvhen on Dec 8, 2011 12:36:01 GMT -5
Great band. Strange how there seems to be a period in teenage life now somewhere between 16 and 19 where people adore led zeppelin, then real life intervenes and they loose touch with that
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Post by angela on Dec 8, 2011 19:56:47 GMT -5
thank god that never happened to me. led zep forever dude.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2011 13:02:41 GMT -5
rock on dudes  |
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Post by stepvhen on Dec 11, 2011 9:05:43 GMT -5
I don't see people's issue with selling his services. The man puts a lot of time and energy into what he does. You'd pay a plumber to fix your toilet wouldn't you? It's not like it's a big con. He is actually and really liberating people and actually and really improving their lives.
I've done plenty of consultation work with people. I also have no issue with accepting money for what I do. Such is the nature of the world we live in.
If you're doing high quality work why would you degrade it's value by simply giving it away free? It's not like he's pushing drugs or selling big macs. The kind of work he does, hell the work I do changes peoples lives for the better.
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Post by tomas on Dec 11, 2011 22:00:04 GMT -5
Spiritual stuff is different from plumbing. The more one charges, the greater likelihood it's a fraud. Any authentic tradition offers the teachings for free, or minimal charge.
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Post by stepvhen on Dec 12, 2011 7:31:59 GMT -5
If the authentic traditions worked tomas you'd have been free years ago. They've got a very low success rate.
Anyway, this stuff isn't an inch spiritual. Spirituality is just one lexicon through which the nature of reality can be communicated.
The problem with that is to paraphrase Bryan Magee, we don't understand the world in terms of lexicon, we simply use it to communicate what we understand.
What Ciaran does, what I do, what Truth Strike now does, is to let the person decide their own mode of communicating these things after, the communication is not what's important to someone who isn't free. What is important is getting free.
So we deal in showing people how to understand phenomena directly, rather than understand linguistic formulations ABOUT phenomenon.
Simple as that really.
And look, you've seen the results for yourself. You've read brutal beginnings you've seen people liberated.
You've hopefully even seen the few that decided to embrace their liberation too. (Those people are astonishingly rare)
Are you really telling me that, there is no value in freeing a person?
Are you telling me that morality is more important than the facilitation of a liberator in doing his work?
Nah.
This is bigger than morality.
Bigger than money.
Sadly we live in a world where money is a requirement.
That is our reality. You cannot live outside it and expect to have any impact on people inside that paradigm. Because people inside that paradigm have agreed to play real life monopoly. To define value based on that game.
If you want to reach them, you gotta play.
Liberation is worth a lot more than £1000 the bulk of which you would have spent to galvanize your own chains.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2011 8:18:56 GMT -5
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Post by andrew on Dec 12, 2011 10:08:45 GMT -5
Bargain! 5 star customer review as well hehe.
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