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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 16:26:09 GMT -5
They are the self realized peeps and on a mission to change the consensus of us gravity lovers. "Us" Kemosabe?? Ooops I mean 'we' gravity lovers...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 16:33:17 GMT -5
It's a bad advice, I am not running in front of the train without any control. It's everybody experience that we CAN choose, but the question is whether the choosing is really done by us or not? The truth is, that choice is being experienced in our consciousness, it gives the feeling of we are the one who has chosen it. What is this control that you want, before you run in front of train?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 16:35:34 GMT -5
Meaning and purpose are creations of the mind which is in the relative which is in the maze. There isn't any meaning outside the maze, only being. You have no choice but to live unless you are dead. If the sun is obscured by clouds, is there conflict between sun and cloud. I don't think so. Conflict exists in the mind. If you know you are not mind, where is the conflict. There is no one to be in conflict with. If you haven't lifted the veil how do you know that you need to live beyond it. That is just an idea in your mind. You're still in the maze. That maze brain picture looks like your Hydrangea profile, in reverse.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 16:40:32 GMT -5
That maze brain picture looks like your Hydrangea profile, in reverse. No shortage of mental gymnastics there...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 16:46:48 GMT -5
I was relating oxygen as the ingredient that purifies the river .. Without the oxygen in this instance there would be nothing to purify the river with .. What would result in would be a river that is not pure . If you are relating to oxygen as being one's breath of life then I can agree with your thoughts . I know it's a tall ask, though if you'll take the time to notice. The river doesn't actually need purifying, it just doesn't need your insistence that it was polluted. Go ahead wren, have a drink...
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Post by figgles on Jun 2, 2015 16:53:06 GMT -5
You're the one imagining Wren. Tenka hasn't boasted about having gained anything that makes him special, rather, he speaks about previous problems, no longer being problematic. The end result sounds pretty much in line with what others here say about SR.I don' think so. If the end result is the end of fighting against life, does it matter what you call it, or how you got there?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 16:53:20 GMT -5
It's a bad advice, I am not running in front of the train without any control. It's everybody experience that we CAN choose, but the question is whether the choosing is really done by us or not? The truth is, that choice is being experienced in our consciousness, it gives the feeling of we are the one who has chosen it. What is this control that you want, before you run in front of train? Awareness of trains might be a good one.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 17:08:54 GMT -5
If the end result is the end of fighting against life, does it matter what you call it, or how you got there? If waking up was only about the end of fighting with life, then yes, it seems that he's made some progress. Though as waking up is about ending the fight with your self, from within, because there isn't one.. .. my statement still stands.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 17:23:45 GMT -5
If the end result is the end of fighting against life, does it matter what you call it, or how you got there? If waking up was only about the end of fighting with life, then yes, it seems that he's made some progress. Though as waking up is about ending the fight with your self, from within, because there isn't one.. .. my statement still stands. Perfect example of the Non-Duality ' teaching' flaw. There is no you, but there is something you can do(waking you up) to end the fighting with the you that isn't there, so you can realize there is no you....
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Post by enigma on Jun 2, 2015 19:23:19 GMT -5
I know, right? She just disregards context completely. Wait ... ... does this mean that all these complaints about you not pre-announcing the context of every sentence you write are ... projections? I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you! I've noticed projections do happen every once in a blue moon.
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Post by enigma on Jun 2, 2015 19:33:30 GMT -5
That view strikes me as rather arrogant, but of course by your logic, that would be a reflection of how I see myself, which leaves you perpetually innocent. Butt wait .. .. isn't that what doofus guy is sayin' about steppin on peeps toes an bein' late fer work?? Apparently, his reasons for not taking responsibility are different, butt the results are the same, except that he gets to blame someone else too.
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Post by enigma on Jun 2, 2015 19:35:00 GMT -5
In an auric sense (as in, of the aura) may I ask what colour your left foot is please? You might want to elaborate a bit more on that, I am not relating working through and understanding sufferings in relation to self / Self with the colour of my foot in the auric sense .Well, there's yer problem right there.
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Post by enigma on Jun 2, 2015 19:41:11 GMT -5
The 'energy' comes directly from the misidentification. That was the point of the rabbit's foot metaphor. Humans don't have rabbit feet to worry about. I disagree . The enquiry into what you are brings to the surface what requires attention . Why would that be? I'm talking about suffering caused by misidentification. If the misidentification is resolved, there is no problem to solve. It's a simple idea.
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Post by enigma on Jun 2, 2015 19:43:55 GMT -5
What if what's happening relates to your (false) identity? (i.e. somebody wants your foot for a keychain.) Everything is part of the whole like you said .. The mirage of the oasis and the so called real river that is flowing are both happening / appearing / being experienced . It doesn't matter what's what, what is happening is still happening regardless .. I don't understand your point. Does it relate to what I'm talking about?
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Post by enigma on Jun 2, 2015 19:52:06 GMT -5
Straw men don't help your argument. Not taking responsibility for one's thoughts / actions don't help peeps either .. Right, and the only one I see doing that is you. It's a strawjection!
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