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Post by jay17 on Apr 19, 2015 14:46:41 GMT -5
So your statements contain error, you have not correctly expressed that which you mean to describe? yeah, every example has limitations They all are just mental models So are you saying you have no way of expressing yourself correctly, you cannot accurately describe how existence functions?
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Post by veter on Apr 20, 2015 1:32:55 GMT -5
yeah, every example has limitations They all are just mental models So are you saying you have no way of expressing yourself correctly, you cannot accurately describe how existence functions? First, I know english not very good Second, I meant, every description is a mental model! It's always relative, conditional.
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Post by andrew on Apr 20, 2015 3:01:08 GMT -5
So are you saying you have no way of expressing yourself correctly, you cannot accurately describe how existence functions? First, I know english not very good Second, I meant, every description is a mental model! It's always relative, conditional. your english seems pretty good to me veter, I'm having very little difficulty understanding your meaning.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 3:01:54 GMT -5
First, I know english not very good Second, I meant, every description is a mental model! It's always relative, conditional. your english seems pretty good to me veter, I'm having very little difficulty understanding your meaning. Are you the English man Andrew? Which country are you from?
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Post by andrew on Apr 20, 2015 3:07:58 GMT -5
your english seems pretty good to me veter, I'm having very little difficulty understanding your meaning. Are you the English man Andrew? Which country are you from? UK - part English, part Scottish. Photo there too (will probably take it down later)
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Post by veter on Apr 20, 2015 3:20:41 GMT -5
First, I know english not very good Second, I meant, every description is a mental model! It's always relative, conditional. your english seems pretty good to me veter, I'm having very little difficulty understanding your meaning. Ah, ok. I meant I don't have enough vocabulary and nuances words' meanings to express myself more fully
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Post by andrew on Apr 20, 2015 3:25:31 GMT -5
your english seems pretty good to me veter, I'm having very little difficulty understanding your meaning. Ah, ok. I meant I don't have enough vocabulary and nuances words' meanings to express myself more fully I understand. Though even for me, that happens sometimes. What you have contributed so far is interesting and relevant, hope to see you say more.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 3:55:16 GMT -5
Are you the English man Andrew? Which country are you from? UK - part English, part Scottish. Photo there too (will probably take it down later) Okay
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Post by laughter on Apr 20, 2015 10:24:12 GMT -5
your english seems pretty good to me veter, I'm having very little difficulty understanding your meaning. Ah, ok. I meant I don't have enough vocabulary and nuances words' meanings to express myself more fully Yeah, like andy said, don't be shy about asking for clarification. Some of us are all to happy to go into excruciating detail in reply. ... but I echo andy's sentiment and hope to hear more from you.
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Post by veter on Apr 20, 2015 10:59:45 GMT -5
Ah, ok. I meant I don't have enough vocabulary and nuances words' meanings to express myself more fully Yeah, like andy said, don't be shy about asking for clarification. Some of us are all to happy to go into excruciating detail in reply. ... but I echo andy's sentiment and hope to hear more from you. Thx Here it is: spiritualteachers.proboards.com/thread/4105/veters-poetry-life
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Post by jay17 on Apr 20, 2015 16:41:40 GMT -5
yeah, every example has limitations They all are just mental models So are you saying you have no way of expressing yourself correctly, you cannot accurately describe how existence functions? First, I know english not very good Second, I meant, every description is a mental model! It's always relative, conditional. So are you saying any creations coming from your mind cannot accurately describe existence?
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Post by veter on Apr 21, 2015 1:34:56 GMT -5
First, I know english not very good Second, I meant, every description is a mental model! It's always relative, conditional. So are you saying any creations coming from your mind cannot accurately describe existence? There are different styles of painting, which one is accurate? Neither of them, they are just different ways for expressing. We can only discuss if a mental model is practical or not, nothing more.
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Post by jay17 on Apr 21, 2015 1:48:22 GMT -5
So are you saying any creations coming from your mind cannot accurately describe existence? There are different styles of painting, which one is accurate? Neither of them, they are just different ways for expressing. We can only discuss if a mental model is practical or not, nothing more. It appears to me that you prefer to beat around the bush. In your analogy you clearly state no style of painting is accurate, (and it seems you have a limited knowledge of the subject as you state there are only two styles. Unless of course, the painting analogy is referring to your's and my thoughts on a subject...two.) Anyways... In your analogy you clearly state no style of painting is accurate, but when you speak of thoughts("mental models"), you use the term "practical or not." I'll go along with you... So are you saying any creations coming from your mind are not practical for accurately describing existence?
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Post by veter on Apr 21, 2015 2:11:49 GMT -5
There are different styles of painting, which one is accurate? Neither of them, they are just different ways for expressing. We can only discuss if a mental model is practical or not, nothing more. It appears to me that you prefer to beat around the bush. In your analogy you clearly state no style of painting is accurate, (and it seems you have a limited knowledge of the subject as you state there are only two styles. Unless of course, the painting analogy is referring to your's and my thoughts on a subject...two.) Anyways... In your analogy you clearly state no style of painting is accurate, but when you speak of thoughts("mental models"), you use the term "practical or not." I'll go along with you... So are you saying any creations coming from your mind are not practical for accurately describing existence? A model can be practical or not. I meant that. The term "accurately" is very abstract, who can set criteria? The accuracy depends on how sharp intellect is.
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Post by jay17 on Apr 21, 2015 4:59:15 GMT -5
A model can be practical or not. I meant that. The term "accurately" is very abstract, who can set criteria? The accuracy depends on how sharp intellect is. Far as i can tell, anyone can set any criteria they like. So, thoughts("mind models") can be either practical or not. Ok, i get that. This i don't get...the accuracy...the accuracy of what?
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