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Post by lolly on Dec 6, 2013 22:39:47 GMT -5
What if we were to change the tack of this discussion, and have all the 'victims' here at st.org step up and tell their side and etc.? How would that work? It'd be a big blame fest, surely. There'd be ridicule galore teehee
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Post by enigma on Dec 6, 2013 22:45:56 GMT -5
My fist comment was to suggest that not everyone agrees with your judgment of ridicule. Not everyone "recognizes" what you recognize. So starting from there and discussing the details of that judgment doesn't make much sense. I don't see much of either going on. Don't see that happening either. I don't see anybody trying to entertain the one they are 'mocking' or whatever it is. Projections seems to be a separate issue. It'd be a surprise to me if people didn't aknowledge that ridicule and mockery and bickering is a significant part of this forum. At the moment it seems that there's a thing like, 'oh the humour you mean?' Bickering, absolutely. Mocking, sometimes. Ridicule, rarely. Your mileage may vary, but I was addressing your ridicule comments.
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Post by lolly on Dec 6, 2013 22:48:13 GMT -5
It'd be a surprise to me if people didn't aknowledge that ridicule and mockery and bickering is a significant part of this forum. At the moment it seems that there's a thing like, 'oh the humour you mean?' Well, I'm not gonna' sign up to your versions of the words "mockery" and "bickering" ahead of time but I'll acknowledge quite a bit of negativity in the dialogs here, but I didn't see E' deny that, just some of your characterizations that got a bit dark, and that were suggestive of a form of sadism. I'm a dark kinda character, I can't help it. My past characterizations were only indicative of the cycle which is repetitive and predictable (beyond that I start to sound paranoid)... 'sadism' must refer to prodding at personal issues that are like to be inflammatory, does it?
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Post by enigma on Dec 6, 2013 22:49:08 GMT -5
If there was no you, would ridicule, mockery and bickering have any meaning?! Is that a precursor to a blame the victim strategy? There is no victim and no victimizer.
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Post by lolly on Dec 6, 2013 22:50:01 GMT -5
It'd be a surprise to me if people didn't aknowledge that ridicule and mockery and bickering is a significant part of this forum. At the moment it seems that there's a thing like, 'oh the humour you mean?' Bickering, absolutely. Mocking, sometimes. Ridicule, rarely. Your mileage may vary, but I was addressing your ridicule comments. Ok, that's good, cuzI tawt I wuz seeing sh!t that wasn't even there for a moment there.
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Post by enigma on Dec 6, 2013 22:50:45 GMT -5
What if we were to change the tack of this discussion, and have all the 'victims' here at st.org step up and tell their side and etc.? How would that work? Not very well, I suspect.
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Post by enigma on Dec 6, 2013 22:53:20 GMT -5
Bickering, absolutely. Mocking, sometimes. Ridicule, rarely. Your mileage may vary, but I was addressing your ridicule comments. Ok, that's good, cuzI tawt I wuz seeing sh!t that wasn't even there for a moment there. Well, I think you do. Hehe.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2013 23:06:09 GMT -5
If there is no you, how can there be a victim?! I'd let you in on an open secret, but it's considered spamming... I already know the 'message' anyway. Yeah, like Silence you knows it, you just doesn't get it...
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Post by lolly on Dec 6, 2013 23:18:21 GMT -5
I already know the 'message' anyway. Yeah, like Silence you knows it, you just doesn't get it... Was it joke? - wow, that musta went right over my head.
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Post by laughter on Dec 6, 2013 23:31:35 GMT -5
Well, I'm not gonna' sign up to your versions of the words "mockery" and "bickering" ahead of time but I'll acknowledge quite a bit of negativity in the dialogs here, but I didn't see E' deny that, just some of your characterizations that got a bit dark, and that were suggestive of a form of sadism. I'm a dark kinda character, I can't help it. My past characterizations were only indicative of the cycle which is repetitive and predictable (beyond that I start to sound paranoid)... 'sadism' must refer to prodding at personal issues that are like to be inflammatory, does it? More or less but it applies to a sort of process that I read into your descriptions overall.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2013 23:42:52 GMT -5
Yeah, like Silence you knows it, you just doesn't get it... Was it joke? - wow, that musta went right over my head. Don't worry it goes over most peoples head...
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Post by quinn on Dec 7, 2013 8:07:35 GMT -5
Yeah, like Silence you knows it, you just doesn't get it... Was it joke? - wow, that musta went right over my head. It wasn't a joke. TRF thinks because we talk about person-type stuff it means we don't understand that we're not 'persons'.
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Post by lolly on Dec 7, 2013 8:23:24 GMT -5
Was it joke? - wow, that musta went right over my head. It wasn't a joke. TRF thinks because we talk about person-type stuff it means we don't understand that we're not 'persons'. I don't really know what a 'person' is. I'm familiar with self image, identity and esteem to some degree, though.
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Post by quinn on Dec 7, 2013 8:38:33 GMT -5
It wasn't a joke. TRF thinks because we talk about person-type stuff it means we don't understand that we're not 'persons'. I don't really know what a 'person' is. I'm familiar with self image, identity and esteem to some degree, though. Yeah, I think different people mean different things when they say 'person'. So, do you think that who you are is tied to self-image and identity? Or do you not go down that road? (The 'who am I?' road.)
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Post by lolly on Dec 7, 2013 8:51:28 GMT -5
I don't really know what a 'person' is. I'm familiar with self image, identity and esteem to some degree, though. Yeah, I think different people mean different things when they say 'person'. So, do you think that who you are is tied to self-image and identity? Or do you not go down that road? (The 'who am I?' road.) Sure, who I am as a lot to do with image and identity.
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