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Post by silence on Aug 29, 2013 8:59:06 GMT -5
I agree that nobody's in a position to cause anybody else to awaken, but I disagree that "IT" decides anything. There is a natural unfolding, and everything everybody does is part of that unfolding, and hence is invaluable. And unless the word filter has been modified, I'll say it's just that nobody is doing it. Haha. IT doesn't need to mean an intelligence as you interpreted it. It can just be what you called it, a natural unfolding with the label "IT deciding" instead..... And that's how I meant it anyways so we see it the same... To-ma-toe To-maa-to That doesn't really compute here. The IT, THIS, THAT talk almost always strikes me as a clever way to objectify a new more expansive identity.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2013 11:23:14 GMT -5
Does anyone around here have any knowledge/pointers regarding Radical Forgiveness? I know it's used in some sort of therapies. Seems like a good approach for these sort of relationship trauma stories. I bet Jesus is hooked in to that stuff somewhere. Oh yea, forgive them yada yada. I believe his use of 'them' includes all those enlightened ne'rdowells you've encountered. It's talked about here all the time. To clearly see that there is nobody and nothing to blame, what is left to forgive. The state of humanity is radical confusion. That is pretty rad. Is there a Rad-light? ..For folks besodden with feeling like there is someone and something to blame, and soaking in intermittant convulsions of bitterness and cynicism? The radness you are talking about is like the Nuke option on the whole dynamic, and the only real lasting solution probably. But I thought RF was something that therapists used with some success among regular folks who maintain being regular folks, just without all the convulsions. Maybe I'm thinking of Radical Acceptance. same dif to me
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Post by freejoy on Aug 29, 2013 14:38:28 GMT -5
Yeah, your pretty close. And being rob by some enlightened person. But God done it for a non-reason so I would know about these so-called enlightened people. Don't say she was not enlightened as I turned her inside out.But she did not turn me inside out but OUT. I sometimes feel like ending their DNA chain completely. What does that mean? You're not 'enlightened', and yet you can somehow know that this person who behaved badly is? How is that possible? Nobody's accusing you of judging a spade to be a spade, but rather questioning the assumptions by which you conclude that it is a rake, and then judge the rake. Because of transference. It's this whole karma thingy. Yes, it's very hard to tell if someone has behaved badly. It's very hard to know for sure. I suppose one has to use their feelings. It seems I can't behave badly. It seems anything I do has been some how sanctified by God/Intelligence even if I do seem do error. Maybe it's my intention or dedication Don't know. It also seems to me that one has to do something while on this earth. Decisions must be made. Right now you can choose the words you write. How come you can choose your words is not my concern because I don't know. Apparently God built the algorithm that way.
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Post by silence on Aug 29, 2013 16:44:37 GMT -5
It's talked about here all the time. To clearly see that there is nobody and nothing to blame, what is left to forgive. The state of humanity is radical confusion. That is pretty rad. Is there a Rad-light? ..For folks besodden with feeling like there is someone and something to blame, and soaking in intermittant convulsions of bitterness and cynicism? The radness you are talking about is like the Nuke option on the whole dynamic, and the only real lasting solution probably. But I thought RF was something that therapists used with some success among regular folks who maintain being regular folks, just without all the convulsions. Maybe I'm thinking of Radical Acceptance. same dif to me I dunno. I'm a little lost with the talk of regular folks and convulsions. I'd say there's a benefit in deciding to forgive even if you still see blame.
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Post by onehandclapping on Aug 30, 2013 1:32:51 GMT -5
Haha. IT doesn't need to mean an intelligence as you interpreted it. It can just be what you called it, a natural unfolding with the label "IT deciding" instead..... And that's how I meant it anyways so we see it the same... To-ma-toe To-maa-to That doesn't really compute here. The IT, THIS, THAT talk almost always strikes me as a clever way to objectify a new more expansive identity. You could probably say that about any words that someone uses if you so desire..... But what part doesn't compute for ya?
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Post by silence on Aug 30, 2013 17:19:18 GMT -5
That doesn't really compute here. The IT, THIS, THAT talk almost always strikes me as a clever way to objectify a new more expansive identity. You could probably say that about any words that someone uses if you so desire..... But what part doesn't compute for ya? The whole thing but I've lost the my focus on the how the conversation has evolved.
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Post by freejoy on Aug 30, 2013 19:43:54 GMT -5
I just raised the question mostly out of curiosity and maybe some insights for the enlightened people out there.
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Post by charliegee on Aug 31, 2013 20:15:43 GMT -5
well, methinks an enlightened spouse could still be quite annoying ..
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