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Post by topology on Aug 28, 2013 11:22:30 GMT -5
The way I see what you've said here is, for one your spouse seems not enlightened because he calls people "idiots". Just calling people idiots because they pulled out in front of you and in general wouldn't be enlightened. Also, it is projecting ones own shadow on to other people and denying ones on "idiotness". Thereby creating homeless people and other less fortunate people who are the result of mass shadow projections. For an enlightened person to do this seems to me a great evil. "If you know to do good and don't it is evil to you" ~ Bible I don't know, freejoy, but what you're mixing topics in a dizzying sort of way and freeing yourself to pass judgment on statements that you haven't even asked for clarification on - actually passing judgment on people you don't even profess to knowing - a lot of careless judgments and judgment calls. It's rather disconcerting - your apparent attitude towards others.  Yes, many many judgments on hypotheticals and people he doesn't know. |
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Post by topology on Aug 28, 2013 11:25:17 GMT -5
It could have been a mistyped "why" or a hybrid "what/why". *Exception Handled.* *Resuming Thread Execution.* ... Uncaught exception in thread 15 of Topology.exe: Stack trace: Method "readPost" line 53: Method "parseSentences" line 5: Method "parseQuotes" line 32: Method "parseSentences" line 22: Method "parseSentence" line 354: Method "AnswerQuestion" line 92: Exception :: UnboundQuestionReference :: "Question 'what?' was in response to statement: 'It may not be in a person's best interest to become "enlightened". ' but no object in the sentence could bind as the subject referenced by 'what'" It looks like I need an upgrade of my question answering subroutine. *clippy pops up on the screen* "I see you are asking a question" "Are you trying to ask: 'How is it not in a person's best interest to become enlightened?' ?"sure, but the subject (person) kinda makes the question nonsensical to begin with, no? Enlightenment is definitely a wrench in the gears of any personally held interests, so yeah.  Doesn't help with maintaining a person(a). |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2013 11:25:51 GMT -5
I love freejoy's stream of consciousness. He's got endless supply of topics arising from an underlying beef with so-called enlightened peeps, especially those that he fantasized about having a relationship with. Freejoy, you seem to like Jesus pretty much. Why not just stick with what he said? Don't waste your time on this other stuff. Well, ok......that's one way of looking at it. I wasn't sure if he was fantasizing or talking about a real relationship, tbh. We got some of the story in the past, but I'd butcher them by trying to retell the sordid details right now. It involved travel, lots of eggs being put into one basket, unrequited feelingstuff, .... do I have that right freejoy? Donchathink that story, and the bitter aftertaste, lingers on in these questions and topics you're raising? |
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Post by serpentqueen on Aug 28, 2013 11:35:03 GMT -5
He always has a great kindness for the homeless, or any people he considers underdogs or downtrodden. People he gets impatient with or calls "idiots" include - those acting rudely to the underdogs - those driving while using a cell phone - anyone who litters or wastes stuff - people who park inconsiderately, or do other inconsiderate things - abusive people He doesn't usually call them idiots to their faces though, but he will step in to defend people, for example, waitresses being treated poorly, or anyone being berated in public... So if someone is being an idiot and berating others in public, he publicly berates them?  No, he'll step in and ask the person being abused if they are okay, if they need help. It makes me nervous for his safety - I am more inclined to suggest just calling the police. Especially because he's not a big intimidating guy at all. As for the waitresses, his M.O. isn't to confront the rude customer, but to step up after the rude customer has left, commiserate, and then leave a bigger-than-usual tip. |
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Post by enigma on Aug 28, 2013 11:41:00 GMT -5
So if someone is being an idiot and berating others in public, he publicly berates them? No, he'll step in and ask the person being abused if they are okay, if they need help. It makes me nervous for his safety - I am more inclined to suggest just calling the police. Especially because he's not a big intimidating guy at all. As for the waitresses, his M.O. isn't to confront the rude customer, but to step up after the rude customer has left, commiserate, and then leave a bigger-than-usual tip. Okey dokey. |
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Post by freejoy on Aug 28, 2013 12:21:52 GMT -5
The way I see what you've said here is, for one your spouse seems not enlightened because he calls people "idiots". Just calling people idiots because they pulled out in front of you and in general wouldn't be enlightened. Also, it is projecting ones own shadow on to other people and denying ones on "idiotness". Thereby creating homeless people and other less fortunate people who are the result of mass shadow projections. For an enlightened person to do this seems to me a great evil. "If you know to do good and don't it is evil to you" ~ Bible I don't know, freejoy, but what you're mixing topics in a dizzying sort of way and freeing yourself to pass judgment on statements that you haven't even asked for clarification on - actually passing judgment on people you don't even profess to knowing - a lot of careless judgments and judgment calls. It's rather disconcerting - your apparent attitude towards others. Okay, they let me out of my rubber room for a little while, but I'm on a time limit.  I might be judging others, but not as much as it seems. If a door is black and one calls it black that isn't necessarily a judgment, is it? But I do have issues with enlightened people. Just last night I was wanting to kill my first teacher who used me and lied to me. I just try to let it go but I have some trouble letting go of things now that God is a joke. So she is safe for the moment. So now I proceed with exceeding care. I will not be tricked any longer. I was here in this post only giving my observations to what she said her husband does. She gave clarification. |
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Post by silver on Aug 28, 2013 12:25:36 GMT -5
I don't know, freejoy, but what you're mixing topics in a dizzying sort of way and freeing yourself to pass judgment on statements that you haven't even asked for clarification on - actually passing judgment on people you don't even profess to knowing - a lot of careless judgments and judgment calls. It's rather disconcerting - your apparent attitude towards others. Okay, they let me out of my rubber room for a little while, but I'm on a time limit. I might be judging others, but not as much as it seems. If a door is black and one calls it black that isn't necessarily a judgment, is it? But I do have issues with enlightened people. Just last night I was wanting to kill my first teacher who used me and lied to me. I just try to let it go but I have some trouble letting go of things now that God is a joke. So she is safe for the moment. So now I proceed with exceeding care. I will not be tricked any longer.I was here in this post only giving my observations to what she said her husband does. She gave clarification. Okay. Now, there's a story I'd love to hear more about, sounds fascinating. |
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Post by freejoy on Aug 28, 2013 12:26:30 GMT -5
Well, ok......that's one way of looking at it. I wasn't sure if he was fantasizing or talking about a real relationship, tbh. We got some of the story in the past, but I'd butcher them by trying to retell the sordid details right now. It involved travel, lots of eggs being put into one basket, unrequited feelingstuff, .... do I have that right freejoy? Donchathink that story, and the bitter aftertaste, lingers on in these questions and topics you're raising? Yeah, your pretty close. And being rob by some enlightened person. But God done it for a non-reason so I would know about these so-called enlightened people. Don't say she was not enlightened as I turned her inside out. But she did not turn me inside out but OUT. I sometimes feel like ending their DNA chain completely. |
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Post by freejoy on Aug 28, 2013 12:28:33 GMT -5
I guess she has forgiven herself and sits in heaven. Thinking their is no repercussions to her actions.
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Post by enigma on Aug 28, 2013 12:37:23 GMT -5
We got some of the story in the past, but I'd butcher them by trying to retell the sordid details right now. It involved travel, lots of eggs being put into one basket, unrequited feelingstuff, .... do I have that right freejoy? Donchathink that story, and the bitter aftertaste, lingers on in these questions and topics you're raising? Yeah, your pretty close. And being rob by some enlightened person. But God done it for a non-reason so I would know about these so-called enlightened people. Don't say she was not enlightened as I turned her inside out.But she did not turn me inside out but OUT. I sometimes feel like ending their DNA chain completely. What does that mean? You're not 'enlightened', and yet you can somehow know that this person who behaved badly is? How is that possible? Nobody's accusing you of judging a spade to be a spade, but rather questioning the assumptions by which you conclude that it is a rake, and then judge the rake. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2013 12:39:57 GMT -5
I guess she has forgiven herself and sits in heaven. Thinking their is no repercussions to her actions. Does anyone around here have any knowledge/pointers regarding Radical Forgiveness? I know it's used in some sort of therapies. Seems like a good approach for these sort of relationship trauma stories. I bet Jesus is hooked in to that stuff somewhere. Oh yea, forgive them yada yada. I believe his use of 'them' includes all those enlightened ne'rdowells you've encountered. |
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Post by silence on Aug 28, 2013 17:10:55 GMT -5
Aside from the "there's nobody to enlighten" there's the question, "What does an enlightened individual expression look like?" It's my opinion that they do not always look like Buddha or Niz or other gurus. Right. Enlightenment is not about a set of conditioning being wiped clean or reset to enlightenment mode. That totally unique expression is not a mistake. A change in perspective may not be even noticeable to others. |
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Post by silence on Aug 28, 2013 17:20:28 GMT -5
I guess she has forgiven herself and sits in heaven. Thinking their is no repercussions to her actions. Does anyone around here have any knowledge/pointers regarding Radical Forgiveness? I know it's used in some sort of therapies. Seems like a good approach for these sort of relationship trauma stories. I bet Jesus is hooked in to that stuff somewhere. Oh yea, forgive them yada yada. I believe his use of 'them' includes all those enlightened ne'rdowells you've encountered. It's talked about here all the time. To clearly see that there is nobody and nothing to blame, what is left to forgive. The state of humanity is radical confusion. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2013 0:19:13 GMT -5
Joshu Sasaki Roshi told me (1985) how a volatile wife could be an advantage on ones journey. "One must use it!" "Use everything!" I thank the Lord every day that I'm living with such a finely tuned BS detector. Plus she's hawt. was a hawt? |
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Post by onehandclapping on Aug 29, 2013 2:32:44 GMT -5
Dang spouses never listen, that's why.... Hahaha. It might have to do with them viewing the person through pre-enlightenment interactions. They filter everything said by the person through those past interactions and thus are unable to hear the pointers from their spouse clearly. It could also be that people tend to gravitate towards opposites in some ways. So one person might be a hard core seeker and then awaken. The other might be a part time seeker and just not be driven towards it as much. And since that is no problem for the awakened one, there is no pressure for the other to be any different, this they never "reach" it. And lastly, I think this illustrates the fact that we have nothing to do with waking up. IT decides when IT wants to awaken a mind body form. No one has caused another to awaken despite the egos longing for it to be true... I agree that nobody's in a position to cause anybody else to awaken, but I disagree that "IT" decides anything. There is a natural unfolding, and everything everybody does is part of that unfolding, and hence is invaluable. And unless the word filter has been modified, I'll say it's just that nobody is doing it. Haha. IT doesn't need to mean an intelligence as you interpreted it. It can just be what you called it, a natural unfolding with the label "IT deciding" instead..... And that's how I meant it anyways so we see it the same... To-ma-toe To-maa-to |
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