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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2013 11:39:06 GMT -5
That's just it steven, your reasonable mind isn't capable of letting go and simply being awareness... It strives (fails) to observe and understand awareness, which is folly...You are a perception of my awareness steven, where as you see trf as 'real'. That's why I can heckle my perceptions (you) with reckless abandon and you run from yours with reckless abandon...So if your done be done and quit bothering me Bro... If there was any word-lawyering going on at all, it is not in the bolded text. This was clearly a newspaper to the nose of your ego, and your ego responded the way egos do. One might just as easily conclude that the prior post, where TRF was told that his Awareness is a part of a dream too, was his ego recieving a swat on the nose, and that his response that you quoted was his ego responding to a swat as ego's do. As an aside, both posts, and indeed most of your posts, seem to be comparatively perfused with the use of the pronouns that you highlight? What can you say about your selection process here?
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Post by topology on Jul 18, 2013 11:44:35 GMT -5
If there was any word-lawyering going on at all, it is not in the bolded text. This was clearly a newspaper to the nose of your ego, and your ego responded the way egos do. One might just as easily conclude that the prior post, where TRF was told that his Awareness is a part of a dream too, was his ego recieving a swat on the nose, and that his response that you quoted was his ego responding to a swat as ego's do. As an aside, both posts, and indeed most of your posts, seem to be comparatively perfused with the use of the pronouns that you highlight? What can you say about your selection process here? My selection process of what?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2013 11:55:33 GMT -5
One might just as easily conclude that the prior post, where TRF was told that his Awareness is a part of a dream too, was his ego recieving a swat on the nose, and that his response that you quoted was his ego responding to a swat as ego's do. As an aside, both posts, and indeed most of your posts, seem to be comparatively perfused with the use of the pronouns that you highlight? What can you say about your selection process here? My selection process of what? In the exchange between me and TRF, you directed your commentary about ego toward me, and when TRF responded, you politely excluded him from your commentary, and yet, a casual review of the exchange between me and TRF reveals that your commentary could have been directed at either of us with equal relativity, and indeed, many of your exchanges with other posters at this forum could have also received the same commentary on ego and eg pic responses and the use of pronouns lol. What can you say about your selection process in choosing me as the focus of your commentary, while going so far as to politely exclude TRF from your commentary?
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Post by topology on Jul 18, 2013 12:03:01 GMT -5
My selection process of what? In the exchange between me and TRF, you directed your commentary about ego toward me, and when TRF responded, you politely excluded him from your commentary, and yet, a casual review of the exchange between me and TRF reveals that your commentary could have been directed at either of us with equal relativity, and indeed, many of your exchanges with other posters at this forum could have also received the same commentary on ego and eg pic responses and the use of pronouns lol. What can you say about your selection process in choosing me as the focus of your commentary, while going so far as to politely exclude TRF from your commentary? The squeakiest wheel get's the grease. You provided such a rich example of an egoic reaction that I took the opportunity to highlight it for everyone's benefit. All you have to do now is take a bow with me and we can both walk off stage together.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2013 12:15:11 GMT -5
In the exchange between me and TRF, you directed your commentary about ego toward me, and when TRF responded, you politely excluded him from your commentary, and yet, a casual review of the exchange between me and TRF reveals that your commentary could have been directed at either of us with equal relativity, and indeed, many of your exchanges with other posters at this forum could have also received the same commentary on ego and eg pic responses and the use of pronouns lol. What can you say about your selection process in choosing me as the focus of your commentary, while going so far as to politely exclude TRF from your commentary? The squeakiest wheel get's the grease. You provided such a rich example of an egoic reaction that I took the opportunity to highlight it for everyone's benefit. All you have to do now is take a bow with me and we can both walk off stage together. You didn't actually answer the question there, So it will be rephrased. Given that both wheels were equally squeaky in the exchange between me and TRF, what can you say about your selection process of identifying my responses as squeakiest, while excluding TRF when he responded to you? Also, are you performing on a stage? What can you say about your character that would illicit such an analogy, and want to "take a bow"? Also, what can you say about your highlighting of personal pronouns in other folks posts while making heavy use of them in your own posts?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2013 12:23:27 GMT -5
In the exchange between me and TRF, you directed your commentary about ego toward me, and when TRF responded, you politely excluded him from your commentary, and yet, a casual review of the exchange between me and TRF reveals that your commentary could have been directed at either of us with equal relativity, and indeed, many of your exchanges with other posters at this forum could have also received the same commentary on ego and eg pic responses and the use of pronouns lol. What can you say about your selection process in choosing me as the focus of your commentary, while going so far as to politely exclude TRF from your commentary? The squeakiest wheel get's the grease. You provided such a rich example of an egoic reaction that I took the opportunity to highlight it for everyone's benefit. All you have to do now is take a bow with me and we can both walk off stage together. Also, when you say that you took the opportunity to highlight "it" for EVERYONE's BENEFIT, is that a kind of "teaching" that you are doing? What can you say about you highlighting things for EVERYONE's benefit? What about your character motivates this "pointing out" stuff for everyone's benefit? Is it related in some way to being on stage and taking a bow?
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Post by topology on Jul 18, 2013 12:27:08 GMT -5
The squeakiest wheel get's the grease. You provided such a rich example of an egoic reaction that I took the opportunity to highlight it for everyone's benefit. All you have to do now is take a bow with me and we can both walk off stage together. You didn't actually answer the question there, So it will be rephrased. Given that both wheels were equally squeaky in the exchange between me and TRF, what can you say about your selection process of identifying my responses as squeakiest, while excluding TRF when he responded to you? Also, are you performing on a stage? What can you say about your character that would illicit such an analogy, and want to "take a bow"? Also, what can you say about your highlighting of personal pronouns in other folks posts while making heavy use of them in your own posts? The difference in the volume of text and the degree of polar tension between "I" and "You" was not equal in squeakiness. We're all performing, Steven. It's a public forum. Every conversation we have is done before a live audience whether we're aware of the audience or not. Do you not realize that you yourself are performing? What I highlighted in your post, Steven was the polar tension between I and You. Using "I" and "You" are normal and a convenience of language. The degree of tension between "I" and "You" can vary. You were expressing a very high tension.
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Post by topology on Jul 18, 2013 12:35:20 GMT -5
The squeakiest wheel get's the grease. You provided such a rich example of an egoic reaction that I took the opportunity to highlight it for everyone's benefit. All you have to do now is take a bow with me and we can both walk off stage together. Also, when you say that you took the opportunity to highlight "it" for EVERYONE's BENEFIT, is that a kind of "teaching" that you are doing? What can you say about you highlighting things for EVERYONE's benefit? What about your character motivates this "pointing out" stuff for everyone's benefit? Is it related in some way to being on stage and taking a bow? Smile! You're on candid camera! *towards the camera* Steven, everybody! Let's all give him a round of applause. *walks up to Steven and puts arm around his back* Steven, let me point to where the camera is that you're performing in front of...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2013 12:40:41 GMT -5
You didn't actually answer the question there, So it will be rephrased. Given that both wheels were equally squeaky in the exchange between me and TRF, what can you say about your selection process of identifying my responses as squeakiest, while excluding TRF when he responded to you? Also, are you performing on a stage? What can you say about your character that would illicit such an analogy, and want to "take a bow"? Also, what can you say about your highlighting of personal pronouns in other folks posts while making heavy use of them in your own posts? The difference in the volume of text and the degree of polar tension between "I" and "You" was not equal in squeakiness. We're all performing, Steven. It's a public forum. Every conversation we have is done before a live audience whether we're aware of the audience or not. Do you not realize that you yourself are performing? What I highlighted in your post, Steven was the polar tension between I and You. Using "I" and "You" are normal and a convenience of language. The degree of tension between "I" and "You" can vary. You were expressing a very high tension. Interesting.....what evidence can you point to that you cannot point to with equality in TRF's posts relating to this "increased polar" tension other than your own opinions and assumptions? Is there any evidence that you can point to in my posts, that are not there in TRF's posts, that would indicate a higher polar tension other than your own feelings? Also, perhaps I can agree that a public forum is a kind of stage, but one does not have to be "performing" on stage, are you constantly aware of this as being a stage and the requirement that as a part of being on a stage you MUST put on a performance? Seems like there are many ways in which a stage can be used, for example, it could just be the location of happenstance for a group meeting, or it could be an educational seminar etc....for me, this does not feel like a venue of "performance", what can you say about your character that would lend toward seeing this place as a stage that is for putting on a performance and taking bows?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2013 12:44:45 GMT -5
Also, when you say that you took the opportunity to highlight "it" for EVERYONE's BENEFIT, is that a kind of "teaching" that you are doing? What can you say about you highlighting things for EVERYONE's benefit? What about your character motivates this "pointing out" stuff for everyone's benefit? Is it related in some way to being on stage and taking a bow? Smile! You're on candid camera! *towards the camera* Steven, everybody! Let's all give him a round of applause. *walks up to Steven and puts arm around his back* Steven, let me point to where the camera is that you're performing in front of... Hmmm I'm curious, if I am the camera that I am performing in front of, then was you post for everyone's benefit, as you previously stated, or for my benefit, are you performing in front of my camera too, or are you performing in front of your own camera? Also, what is it about your character that invents these "putting on a performance" analogies versus other types of analogies?
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Post by topology on Jul 18, 2013 12:47:43 GMT -5
The difference in the volume of text and the degree of polar tension between "I" and "You" was not equal in squeakiness. We're all performing, Steven. It's a public forum. Every conversation we have is done before a live audience whether we're aware of the audience or not. Do you not realize that you yourself are performing? What I highlighted in your post, Steven was the polar tension between I and You. Using "I" and "You" are normal and a convenience of language. The degree of tension between "I" and "You" can vary. You were expressing a very high tension. Interesting.....what evidence can you point to that you cannot point to with equality in TRF's posts relating to this "increased polar" tension other than your own opinions and assumptions? Is there any evidence that you can point to in my posts, that are not there in TRF's posts, that would indicate a higher polar tension over than your own feelings? Also, perhaps I can agree that a public forum is a kind of stage, but one does not have to be "performing" on stage, are you constantly aware of this as being a stage and the requirement that as a part of being on a stage you MUST put on a performance? Seems like there are many ways in which a stage can be used, for example, it could just be the location of happenstance for a group meeting, or it could be an educational seminar etc....for me, this does not feel like a venue of "performance", what can you say about your character that would lend toward seeing this place as a stage that is for putting on a performance and taking bows? It's all right there, Steven. I've already highlighted it for you. *smiles and sips ZD's coffee*
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Post by topology on Jul 18, 2013 12:48:50 GMT -5
Smile! You're on candid camera! *towards the camera* Steven, everybody! Let's all give him a round of applause. *walks up to Steven and puts arm around his back* Steven, let me point to where the camera is that you're performing in front of... Hmmm I'm curious, if I am the camera that I am performing in front of, then was you post for everyone's benefit, as you previously stated, or for my benefit, are you performing in front of my camera too, or are you performing in front of your own camera? Also, what is it about your character that invents these "putting on a performance" analogies versus other types of analogies? Do you make yourself dizzy with all these questions?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2013 12:52:41 GMT -5
Interesting.....what evidence can you point to that you cannot point to with equality in TRF's posts relating to this "increased polar" tension other than your own opinions and assumptions? Is there any evidence that you can point to in my posts, that are not there in TRF's posts, that would indicate a higher polar tension over than your own feelings? Also, perhaps I can agree that a public forum is a kind of stage, but one does not have to be "performing" on stage, are you constantly aware of this as being a stage and the requirement that as a part of being on a stage you MUST put on a performance? Seems like there are many ways in which a stage can be used, for example, it could just be the location of happenstance for a group meeting, or it could be an educational seminar etc....for me, this does not feel like a venue of "performance", what can you say about your character that would lend toward seeing this place as a stage that is for putting on a performance and taking bows? It's all right there, Steven. I've already highlighted it for you. *smiles and sips ZD's coffee* I'm sorry, perhaps I missed it, but did you highlight anything other than the use of personal pronouns or what you call and stoic response that was equally there in both mine and TRF's posts to each other, and in most of your posts as well? If so, I asked if you could highlight anything that was not equally there in TRF's posts, or your own posts for that matter? Perhaps you did not understand the question....the question is, what EVIDENCE can you point to that my wheel was squeaker than TRF's wheel, or your wheel for that matter, other than your own personal opinions and assumptions, which, most would agree are produced by ego? How are your personal opinions and assumptions NOT a product of your ego? Which leaves the question about why you selected my posts for commentary, does it have anything to do with this "performing on stage and taking a bow" stuff that you keep talking about? Or is it for some other reason? What can you say about this?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2013 12:57:18 GMT -5
The difference in the volume of text and the degree of polar tension between "I" and "You" was not equal in squeakiness. We're all performing, Steven. It's a public forum. Every conversation we have is done before a live audience whether we're aware of the audience or not. Do you not realize that you yourself are performing? What I highlighted in your post, Steven was the polar tension between I and You. Using "I" and "You" are normal and a convenience of language. The degree of tension between "I" and "You" can vary. You were expressing a very high tension. Interesting.....what evidence can you point to that you cannot point to with equality in TRF's posts relating to this "increased polar" tension other than your own opinions and assumptions? Is there any evidence that you can point to in my posts, that are not there in TRF's posts, that would indicate a higher polar tension over than your own feelings? Also, perhaps I can agree that a public forum is a kind of stage, but one does not have to be "performing" on stage, are you constantly aware of this as being a stage and the requirement that as a part of being on a stage you MUST put on a performance? Seems like there are many ways in which a stage can be used, for example, it could just be the location of happenstance for a group meeting, or it could be an educational seminar etc....for me, this does not feel like a venue of "performance", what can you say about your character that would lend toward seeing this place as a stage that is for putting on a performance and taking bows? Your reasonableness is preventing you from seeing that top is pointing out your awareness. Your ego is a perception to that awareness, and the defense of your ego is the folly of reasoning... Which you can easily be aware of...
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Post by topology on Jul 18, 2013 12:57:23 GMT -5
It's all right there, Steven. I've already highlighted it for you. *smiles and sips ZD's coffee* I'm sorry, perhaps I missed it, but did you highlight anything other than the use of personal pronouns or what you call and stoic response that was equally there in both mine and TRF's posts to each other, and in most of your posts as well? If so, I asked if you could highlight anything that was not equally there in TRF's posts, or your own posts for that matter? Which leaves the question about why you selected my posts for commentary, does it have anything to do with this "performing on stage and taking a bow" stuff that you keep talking about? Or is it for some other reason? What can you say about this? I understand that these questions are causing you some irritation. In order to release the questions, it might be helpful to explore why they are arising for you.
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