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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2013 19:23:04 GMT -5
Aww Steve.......come on over to the dark side. It's not so bad. In fact, the weather is very fair. Haha.....Nooooooooooooooo "I try to get out, they pull me back in...." Seems like the dark side is chasing me over here just when I thought I had "cleared the air" lol Guess folks don't like hearing that their most clung to truth or "realness" is no more real than any other aspect of Mind lol Who knew?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2013 19:25:04 GMT -5
to say I dont know was my first step into the dark. Admittance is a valid tool to disrobe the mind of falsity. thus I comes to face its creator and a shift of conciousness begins occurring as the I acknowledges that self that is never born. Haha, unknowing, the most precious gift :-) Thank you my friend
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Post by silver on Jul 17, 2013 19:26:43 GMT -5
Aww Steve.......come on over to the dark side. It's not so bad. In fact, the weather is very fair. Haha.....Nooooooooooooooo "I try to get out, they pull me back in...." Seems like the dark side is chasing me over here just when I thought I had "cleared the air" lol Guess folks don't like hearing that their most clung to truth or "realness" is no more real than any other aspect of Mind lol Who knew? Ha ha...might not mean a thing but, this popped into my head when I read your reply: Late Lament Breathe deep the gathering gloom, Watch lights fade from every room. Bedsitter people look back and lament, Another day's useless energy spent. Impassioned lovers wrestle as one, Lonely man cries for love and has none. New mother picks up and suckles her son, Senior citizens wish they were young. Cold hearted orb that rules the night, Removes the colours from our sight. Red is grey and yellow white, But we decide which is right. And which is an illusion
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2013 19:31:00 GMT -5
Haha.....Nooooooooooooooo "I try to get out, they pull me back in...." Seems like the dark side is chasing me over here just when I thought I had "cleared the air" lol Guess folks don't like hearing that their most clung to truth or "realness" is no more real than any other aspect of Mind lol Who knew? Ha ha...might not mean a thing but, this popped into my head when I read your reply: Late Lament Breathe deep the gathering gloom, Watch lights fade from every room. Bedsitter people look back and lament, Another day's useless energy spent. Impassioned lovers wrestle as one, Lonely man cries for love and has none. New mother picks up and suckles her son, Senior citizens wish they were young. Cold hearted orb that rules the night, Removes the colours from our sight. Red is grey and yellow white, But we decide which is right. And which is an illusion wonderful, did you write it down when it slipped bye?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2013 19:32:56 GMT -5
Haha.....Nooooooooooooooo "I try to get out, they pull me back in...." Seems like the dark side is chasing me over here just when I thought I had "cleared the air" lol Guess folks don't like hearing that their most clung to truth or "realness" is no more real than any other aspect of Mind lol Who knew? Ha ha...might not mean a thing but, this popped into my head when I read your reply: Late Lament Breathe deep the gathering gloom, Watch lights fade from every room. Bedsitter people look back and lament, Another day's useless energy spent. Impassioned lovers wrestle as one, Lonely man cries for love and has none. New mother picks up and suckles her son, Senior citizens wish they were young. Cold hearted orb that rules the night, Removes the colours from our sight. Red is grey and yellow white, But we decide which is right. And which is an illusion Is that the poem at the beginning of that Michael Jackson song? Haha, just teasing ya.....very beautiful ;-)
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Post by tzujanli on Jul 17, 2013 19:33:58 GMT -5
Greetings.. Haha.....Nooooooooooooooo "I try to get out, they pull me back in...." Seems like the dark side is chasing me over here just when I thought I had "cleared the air" lol Guess folks don't like hearing that their most clung to truth or "realness" is no more real than any other aspect of Mind lol Who knew? Ha ha...might not mean a thing but, this popped into my head when I read your reply: Late Lament Breathe deep the gathering gloom, Watch lights fade from every room. Bedsitter people look back and lament, Another day's useless energy spent. Impassioned lovers wrestle as one, Lonely man cries for love and has none. New mother picks up and suckles her son, Senior citizens wish they were young. Cold hearted orb that rules the night, Removes the colours from our sight. Red is grey and yellow white, But we decide which is right. And which is an illusion Ahh.. a Moody Blues fan.. most excellent.. Be well..
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2013 19:35:24 GMT -5
Aww Steve.......come on over to the dark side. It's not so bad. In fact, the weather is very fair. Haha.....Nooooooooooooooo "I try to get out, they pull me back in...." Seems like the dark side is chasing me over here just when I thought I had "cleared the air" lol Guess folks don't like hearing that their most clung to truth or "realness" is no more real than any other aspect of Mind lol Who knew? Who knew knew all along watching its childs homecoming getting caught in lifes brambles along the pathless path torch in hand.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2013 19:36:57 GMT -5
minds sight is very narrow just as projected thought like an arrow we use to tickle others into submission.
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Post by topology on Jul 17, 2013 19:41:55 GMT -5
Quite the focus on the distinction between " I" and " You". The underlined is up for reconsideration about who they apply to. Top, don't you find this kind of word lawyering to be a bit pedantic? Would the wave of the Mind ocean that appears as the illusion of the writer of this critique using the name Topology prefer that the wave of the Mind ocean that is called Steven that appeared to write the original reply to the wave of the Mind ocean that appears as TRF appear to write in this long winded and more difficult to read and write way of communication? Or would you prefer that I write like this. In the latter, you may have to overcome the impulse to word lawyer, and actually read sentences like this: "You say that you are Awareness and that Awareness is the only thing that's real, and then I say that Awareness is also Mind and only existing in the dream of self, then you get angry and accuse me of "reasoning" that you are real lol" And take them at face value versus dissecting the ontology in a way that misses what is communicated. Words point to a meaning when combined into sentences and paragraphs, one may miss the meaning while dissecting each word in pedantic word lawyering... Do you think that Awareness is "real" too Top? Sorry: Does the wave of Mind of infinite Mind tapestry that calls itself Topology in this virtual forum cling to a thought pattern or experience that essential awareness is somehow different or separate from the illusory perception of Being or Mind in THIS experience? I'm contemplating a project about writing an AI that mimics each poster's manner and contribution of content. Currently your algorithm in response to getting hit with a newspaper on the nose is to become a little indignant at the tweak and to polarize the you-me dichotomy, and the length of your response is about 5 times the length of the tweak.
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Post by silver on Jul 17, 2013 19:43:11 GMT -5
Aww Steve.......come on over to the dark side. It's not so bad. In fact, the weather is very fair. Haha.....Nooooooooooooooo "I try to get out, they pull me back in...." Seems like the dark side is chasing me over here just when I thought I had "cleared the air" lol Guess folks don't like hearing that their most clung to truth or "realness" is no more real than any other aspect of Mind lol Who knew? It's too late, Steve.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2013 19:45:08 GMT -5
Fred is dead:
neither this nor that black or white, dark nor bright, yet each perfected in action.
who am I that chooses listening with me heart an speaking with me head?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2013 19:48:06 GMT -5
Top, don't you find this kind of word lawyering to be a bit pedantic? Would the wave of the Mind ocean that appears as the illusion of the writer of this critique using the name Topology prefer that the wave of the Mind ocean that is called Steven that appeared to write the original reply to the wave of the Mind ocean that appears as TRF appear to write in this long winded and more difficult to read and write way of communication? Or would you prefer that I write like this. In the latter, you may have to overcome the impulse to word lawyer, and actually read sentences like this: "You say that you are Awareness and that Awareness is the only thing that's real, and then I say that Awareness is also Mind and only existing in the dream of self, then you get angry and accuse me of "reasoning" that you are real lol" And take them at face value versus dissecting the ontology in a way that misses what is communicated. Words point to a meaning when combined into sentences and paragraphs, one may miss the meaning while dissecting each word in pedantic word lawyering... Do you think that Awareness is "real" too Top? Sorry: Does the wave of Mind of infinite Mind tapestry that calls itself Topology in this virtual forum cling to a thought pattern or experience that essential awareness is somehow different or separate from the illusory perception of Being or Mind in THIS experience? I'm contemplating a project about writing an AI that mimics each poster's manner and contribution of content. Currently your algorithm in response to getting hit with a newspaper on the nose is to become a little indignant at the tweak and to polarize the you-me dichotomy, and the length of your response is about 5 times the length of the tweak. Haha, word lawyering in a pedantic way does not seem to focus attention like a swat on the nose with a news paper...so maybe a mark was missed?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2013 19:49:59 GMT -5
Haha.....Nooooooooooooooo "I try to get out, they pull me back in...." Seems like the dark side is chasing me over here just when I thought I had "cleared the air" lol Guess folks don't like hearing that their most clung to truth or "realness" is no more real than any other aspect of Mind lol Who knew? It's too late, Steve. No no...."I" retreat
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2013 19:51:45 GMT -5
That's just it steven, your reasonable mind isn't capable of letting go and simply being awareness... It strives to observe and understand awareness, which is folly... You are a perception of my awareness steven, where as you see trf as 'real'. That's why I can heckle my perceptions with reckless abandon and you run from yours with reckless abandon... So if your done be done and quit bothering me Bro... Haha, with all due respect, are you totally insane? Have you read anything that I've written hear, if so, how could you possible come to the conclusion that I am saying that you, or anything else is "real"? In fact, I am saying that nothing is real, including your "Awareness", if anyone in this conversation is clinging to a "Realness", its you clinging to the realness of your awareness. And seemingly me telling you (from experience and not reason), that your Awareness is a dream, has gotten you plenty riled up, enough to make up stories in your mind about how I must be deluded in some way for saying that your awareness is also "not real". I've never seen you upset like this, so this one must have really struck home to one of your last closely held illusions. So let me be clear, I am not reasoning that your Awareness is a dream/sleep happening, I'm saying it from experience of seeing it appear and disappear when moving to and for from the wakefulness of Samadhi..... You can accept that or not, or "practice" Samadhi and "see" for yourself or not.... But don't create the illusion that I am saying or experiencing you to be real lol I am saying that you are not "real", nor is your Awareness "Real" in the sense that it is a part of your dream or Mind State of being. You, on the other hand, are claiming that something is real: Your Awareness And seemingly are getting very Uncharacteristically agitated over someone claiming from "experience" that your Awareness is a kind of Mind that only occurs absent the wakefulness of Samadhi. Where have I written anything whatsoever that leads you to believe that I perceive you as "real" lol This is the clearest case of projection that I've ever seen here lol You say that you are Awareness and that Awareness is the only thing that's real, and then I say that Awareness is also Mind and only existing in the dream of self, then you get angry and accuse me of "reasoning" that you are real lol Is a little funny....One day you will probably laugh about this my friend. Ohh Lord save me from my insane perceptions... And Lord please grant steven the same...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2013 19:56:54 GMT -5
Attachment to life we first come to know as our own recognition of truth an where truth is arising from, like compassion dose when supporting the elderly, the insane an our know-it-alls. Mental states vary as we haul aboard outside knowledge from a world that is infact inside us.
To entertain the whole universe as specks within our interiors,thrown-outside us we do when we contemplate our true nature that of creator.
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