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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2013 5:43:54 GMT -5
This forum has just gotten horrible with all the continuous back and forth personal assessment's and apparent attempts at provocation to show another's spiritual or character deficiencies.
20% of posts seem to be an exploration speeerutchul stuff, while 70% is one person telling another what they think of them, and another 10% is just outright meanness.
For whatever reasons, reefs seems to always be at the center of every ugly part, he continually needles and make posts designed to provoke a response that brings the conversation down to a personal bickering over each other's character, inconsistencies, or any other flaw that he can possibly come up with to bring the conversation down to the ugliest common denominator possible....in affect, he sabotages nearly every explorative conversation, and in most cases will resort to outright trolling when ignored.
In my opinion, while everyone is to blame for the ugly tone of the conversation here, Reefs is always in the middle of EVERY SINGLE ugly exchange, and eggs the whole thing on every single time he is involved.
He is like a little ankle biter dog barking at the edge of every reasonable conversation, and biting at the participants ankles, until every conversation is derailed and digressed into an ugly bickering with him or enigma, or in most case both.
Reef just spends too much time trying to provoke people, instead of engaging in conversation.
Its gotten so ugly that I don't even want to login here anymore, because I generally like to spend my time focused on the best of human nature, not the worst.
I'll be giving this place a break from my presence for a while, but I strongly advise you guys to take a close look at the tone of this place lately, and a close look at who is the biggest instigator and maintainer of that ugly tone.
Best of luck, and sincere warm wishes to everyone....including you Reefs ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2013 6:05:09 GMT -5
As an aside, can you guys even imagine what it might be like to have a long meaningful conversation here, without Enigma being at the center of the conversation, or Reef's derailing the conversation?
In some ways, This whole forum, for years, has been determined by Enigma.....he is the top poster, and at the center of EVERY conversation in EVERY thread.
What would it be like to have a conversation with your other peers here, without Enigma being at the center of it?
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Post by andrew on Jun 21, 2013 6:46:37 GMT -5
Lol! I agree with a lot of that and have said the same myself, but the movement to vote isn't quite there. At least, not right now. He can be a sharp end of a needle for sure, but he has a right to be here. I guess.
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Post by topology on Jun 21, 2013 6:50:11 GMT -5
You could always go post at spiritual forums.
I vote yes to banning Steve
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2013 8:00:53 GMT -5
Banning someone only strengthens and validates the egos of those on the ban wagon. They continue on, primping and preening within the confines of their past conditioning, the known- the vantage point of time bound awareness.
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Post by Reefs on Jun 21, 2013 8:35:27 GMT -5
You could always go post at spiritual forums. I vote yes to banning Steve Agreed.
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Post by Beingist on Jun 21, 2013 8:42:36 GMT -5
You're fingering the wrong guy, Steve.
Enigma is the one that should go. Reeks is only a minion.
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Post by Reefs on Jun 21, 2013 8:51:46 GMT -5
You're fingering the wrong guy, Steve. Enigma is the one that should go. Reeks is only a minion. Whoa, Bengst...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2013 8:56:42 GMT -5
is this the dumb joke thread?
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Post by Reefs on Jun 21, 2013 8:57:58 GMT -5
is this the dumb joke thread? Given the fact that Steve started it, not likely.
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Post by topology on Jun 21, 2013 9:01:10 GMT -5
You're fingering the wrong guy, Steve. Enigma is the one that should go. Reeks is only a minion. Et tu, Brungust? Why can't every person be responsible for their own actions? It's all the people that place Enigma at the center of some ring or gang or club that are giving him special status and the perception of being a ring leader. There's an echo chamber over that perception, you are all feeding off eachother reinforcing it in each other.
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Post by Beingist on Jun 21, 2013 9:06:40 GMT -5
You're fingering the wrong guy, Steve. Enigma is the one that should go. Reeks is only a minion. Et tu, Brungust? Why can't every person be responsible for their own actions? It's all the people that place Enigma at the center of some ring or gang or club that are giving him special status and the perception of being a ring leader. There's an echo chamber over that perception, you are all feeding off eachother reinforcing it in each other. I'm not feeding off anyone. He's the King. The Holy Hippo. The HMFIC. Rules the roost, here. What he says, goes. If he says you're asking a misconceived question, you're asking a misconceived question. If he says separation is false, separation is false. The rest of us are either followers or antagonists. It's that simple.
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Post by Reefs on Jun 21, 2013 9:19:43 GMT -5
Et tu, Brungust? Why can't every person be responsible for their own actions? It's all the people that place Enigma at the center of some ring or gang or club that are giving him special status and the perception of being a ring leader. There's an echo chamber over that perception, you are all feeding off eachother reinforcing it in each other. I'm not feeding off anyone. He's the King. The Holy Hippo. The HMFIC. Rules the roost, here. What he says, goes. If he says you're asking a misconceived question, you're asking a misconceived question. If he says separation is false, separation is false. The rest of us are either followers or antagonists. It's that simple. Where would you place Peter?
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Post by silence on Jun 21, 2013 9:24:32 GMT -5
Et tu, Brungust? Why can't every person be responsible for their own actions? It's all the people that place Enigma at the center of some ring or gang or club that are giving him special status and the perception of being a ring leader. There's an echo chamber over that perception, you are all feeding off eachother reinforcing it in each other. I'm not feeding off anyone. He's the King. The Holy Hippo. The HMFIC. Rules the roost, here. What he says, goes. If he says you're asking a misconceived question, you're asking a misconceived question. If he says separation is false, separation is false. The rest of us are either followers or antagonists. It's that simple. Me thinks you might have been working in corporate america too long.
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Post by silver on Jun 21, 2013 9:27:46 GMT -5
Et tu, Brungust? Why can't every person be responsible for their own actions? It's all the people that place Enigma at the center of some ring or gang or club that are giving him special status and the perception of being a ring leader. There's an echo chamber over that perception, you are all feeding off eachother reinforcing it in each other. I'm not feeding off anyone. He's the King. The Holy Hippo. The HMFIC. Rules the roost, here. What he says, goes. If he says you're asking a misconceived question, you're asking a misconceived question. If he says separation is false, separation is false. The rest of us are either followers or antagonists. It's that simple. I tend to agree with you, B, for the most part because it IS the picture they're painting and they're quite prolific at splashing their colors across the whole forum. Steve, I think you pegged the wrong suspect - I mean, don't you think with a moniker of 'Frog Daddy', he'd be the ringleader? I don't understand him 99.9% of the time, and he's far more annoying although I don't know which is worse, tbh - a loud, low background hum or yelling, heh. I've come to being able to put their presences into a proper perspective, so I quickly skim most of FD's stuff for the jokes and as Top so wisely says, they're just words on a page.
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