|
Post by Beingist on Jun 21, 2013 9:41:14 GMT -5
I'm not feeding off anyone. He's the King. The Holy Hippo. The HMFIC. Rules the roost, here. What he says, goes. If he says you're asking a misconceived question, you're asking a misconceived question. If he says separation is false, separation is false. The rest of us are either followers or antagonists. It's that simple. Where would you place Peter? Peter's just like a local cop on the beat making sure no one gets hurt.
|
|
|
Post by topology on Jun 21, 2013 9:45:47 GMT -5
Et tu, Brungust? Why can't every person be responsible for their own actions? It's all the people that place Enigma at the center of some ring or gang or club that are giving him special status and the perception of being a ring leader. There's an echo chamber over that perception, you are all feeding off eachother reinforcing it in each other. I'm not feeding off anyone. He's the King. The Holy Hippo. The HMFIC. Rules the roost, here. What he says, goes. If he says you're asking a misconceived question, you're asking a misconceived question. If he says separation is false, separation is false. The rest of us are either followers or antagonists. It's that simple. For all the people that are complaining about Enigma ruling the roost and being the center of the forum, they need to look at their own fixation on him and making him the center of the forum. Complaining about it is just doing exactly what is being complained about. Enigma's detractors place him on a higher pedestal (to tear him down from it) than his supporters do. Your perception is a self-fulfilling prophecy (confirmation bias). It's what you want to see. Beingist, this is a honest question. Why do you give Enigma special status in your perception of things? Why is he not just another voice in the cacophony of voices on the forum? You have given him the power you perceive him having.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2013 9:49:54 GMT -5
Enigma's detractors place him on a higher pedestal (to tear him down from it) than his supporters do. This is a nonsense.
|
|
|
Post by silver on Jun 21, 2013 9:52:57 GMT -5
Enigma's detractors place him on a higher pedestal (to tear him down from it) than his supporters do. This is a nonsense. Hey verbed. You sound too much like the subject. And while I agree that it's not entirely a 'true' statement, it's not entirely a false one, either because as we of the all media all the time generation(s) know that bad publicity is still publicity.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2013 9:58:08 GMT -5
Hey verbed. You sound too much like the subject. And while I agree that it's not entirely a 'true' statement, it's not entirely a false one, either because as we of the all media all the time generation(s) know that bad publicity is still publicity. I was thinking of arisha when I posted this. She was the first one to post this turn of a phrase.. I never really came here to tear down a d@mned thing. I arrived to express what I've discovered on my journey. Some folks just won't give ya' any room to move...
|
|
|
Post by silver on Jun 21, 2013 10:07:23 GMT -5
Hey verbed. You sound too much like the subject. And while I agree that it's not entirely a 'true' statement, it's not entirely a false one, either because as we of the all media all the time generation(s) know that bad publicity is still publicity. I was thinking of arisha when I posted this. I never really came here to tear down a d@mned thing. I arrived to express what I've discovered on my journey. Some folks just won't give ya' any room to move... Ahh. That explains it! The link didn't work for some reason. It is true, that they cramp some people's style - I find them in every aisle - dancin' all the while - oops, inadvertently kicked into poetry gear. And that thing B said about some-one being here for our protection - the bodies are piling up in the ER, while the cop is at the donut / porn shop. (j/k, j/k, j/k)!
|
|
|
Post by Beingist on Jun 21, 2013 10:08:26 GMT -5
I'm not feeding off anyone. He's the King. The Holy Hippo. The HMFIC. Rules the roost, here. What he says, goes. If he says you're asking a misconceived question, you're asking a misconceived question. If he says separation is false, separation is false. The rest of us are either followers or antagonists. It's that simple. For all the people that are complaining about Enigma ruling the roost and being the center of the forum, they need to look at their own fixation on him and making him the center of the forum. Complaining about it is just doing exactly what is being complained about. Enigma's detractors place him on a higher pedestal (to tear him down from it) than his supporters do. Can you please tell me where there is a complaint in any post of mine in the past couple of days? Even suggesting that he be banned isn't complaining. It's only suggesting that he be banned. Whatever. Actually, I'd say he pretty much assumes his own power. And, he maintains it through his tactics--i.e., always walking the fine line; never revealing too much about himself; rarely saying a kind word to anyone, while also never saying anything harsh; saying stuff that peeps rez with, only to contradict himself days later; not hearing a peep from him while the rest of us talk about him and what he says; etc. Not saying there's anything wrong with this. Not even saying that he's even conscious of it. But, that's what's happening. I'll grant that there are some who could probably take or leave what he says here, and I rather envy those folks, but, I think if you examined every post, say in the last year, (that treat of a spiritual topic of any kind) you'd see that the vast majority are either a) by him b) in response to him or c) in reference to him. Most, if not all of those who are indifferent don't post or read very much, I'd say. He just has that effect on peeps, and I wouldn't doubt if it were intentional. He's like a Jesus figure, without the Romans to just get rid of him. He's the Big Daddy. Face it. Figgles challenges his ideas; Andrew challenges his ideas; I have challenged his ideas (and, I'll admit, I've challenged him personally); Silver, Arisha have challenged both his ideas, as well as his morality; Tzu challenges his ideas ad perpetuam; silence supports him; Reefs is veritable minion. The only long-standing, senior member (I mean, like, with a bunch of posts) I've never seen challenge him or support him is Zendancer.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2013 10:16:44 GMT -5
I was thinking of arisha when I posted this. I never really came here to tear down a d@mned thing. I arrived to express what I've discovered on my journey. Some folks just won't give ya' any room to move... Ahh. That explains it! The link didn't work for some reason. It is true, that they cramp some people's style - I find them in every aisle - dancin' all the while - oops, inadvertently kicked into poetry gear. And that thing B said about some-one being here for our protection - the bodies are piling up in the ER, while the cop is at the donut / porn shop. (j/k, j/k, j/k)! I wonder if Peter is a dunker?
|
|
|
Post by topology on Jun 21, 2013 10:27:13 GMT -5
For all the people that are complaining about Enigma ruling the roost and being the center of the forum, they need to look at their own fixation on him and making him the center of the forum. Complaining about it is just doing exactly what is being complained about. Enigma's detractors place him on a higher pedestal (to tear him down from it) than his supporters do. Can you please tell me where there is a complaint in any post of mine in the past couple of days? Even suggesting that he be banned isn't complaining. It's only suggesting that he be banned. Whatever. Actually, I'd say he pretty much assumes his own power. And, he maintains it through his tactics--i.e., always walking the fine line; never revealing too much about himself; rarely saying a kind word to anyone, while also never saying anything harsh; saying stuff that peeps rez with, only to contradict himself days later; not hearing a peep from him while the rest of us talk about him and what he says; etc. Not saying there's anything wrong with this. Not even saying that he's even conscious of it. But, that's what's happening. I'll grant that there are some who could probably take or leave what he says here, and I rather envy those folks, but, I think if you examined every post, say in the last year, (that treat of a spiritual topic of any kind) you'd see that the vast majority are either a) by him b) in response to him or c) in reference to him. Most, if not all of those who are indifferent don't post or read very much, I'd say. He just has that effect on peeps, and I wouldn't doubt if it were intentional. He's like a Jesus figure, without the Romans to just get rid of him. He's the Big Daddy. Face it. Figgles challenges his ideas; Andrew challenges his ideas; I have challenged his ideas (and, I'll admit, I've challenged him personally); Silver, Arisha have challenged both his ideas, as well as his morality; Tzu challenges his ideas ad perpetuam; silence supports him; Reefs is veritable minion. The only long-standing, senior member (I mean, like, with a bunch of posts) I've never seen challenge him or support him is Zendancer. A request for a ban isn't a complaint of any kind? All I am saying is that Enigma wouldn't be the focus of the forum if people didn't focus on him.
|
|
|
Post by Beingist on Jun 21, 2013 10:35:02 GMT -5
Can you please tell me where there is a complaint in any post of mine in the past couple of days? Even suggesting that he be banned isn't complaining. It's only suggesting that he be banned. Whatever. Actually, I'd say he pretty much assumes his own power. And, he maintains it through his tactics--i.e., always walking the fine line; never revealing too much about himself; rarely saying a kind word to anyone, while also never saying anything harsh; saying stuff that peeps rez with, only to contradict himself days later; not hearing a peep from him while the rest of us talk about him and what he says; etc. Not saying there's anything wrong with this. Not even saying that he's even conscious of it. But, that's what's happening. I'll grant that there are some who could probably take or leave what he says here, and I rather envy those folks, but, I think if you examined every post, say in the last year, (that treat of a spiritual topic of any kind) you'd see that the vast majority are either a) by him b) in response to him or c) in reference to him. Most, if not all of those who are indifferent don't post or read very much, I'd say. He just has that effect on peeps, and I wouldn't doubt if it were intentional. He's like a Jesus figure, without the Romans to just get rid of him. He's the Big Daddy. Face it. Figgles challenges his ideas; Andrew challenges his ideas; I have challenged his ideas (and, I'll admit, I've challenged him personally); Silver, Arisha have challenged both his ideas, as well as his morality; Tzu challenges his ideas ad perpetuam; silence supports him; Reefs is veritable minion. The only long-standing, senior member (I mean, like, with a bunch of posts) I've never seen challenge him or support him is Zendancer. A request for a ban isn't a complaint of any kind? Not to me, it's not, and not in the case of E. With Q, that might be different. I just don't like Q (which would be a complaint). Besides, I've only suggested, thus far. This thread is about banning Reeks, not E. I've only suggested that Steve's requesting a ban on the wrong guy. All I am saying is that Enigma wouldn't be the focus of the forum if he weren't here.
|
|
|
Post by silver on Jun 21, 2013 10:35:10 GMT -5
All I am saying is that Enigma wouldn't be the focus of the forum if people didn't focus on him. I toadally disagree here, Top. Just because they're all just words on a page doesn't mean that's the end of their impact. Their aggressiveness is quite evident and not just because of the 'forum sprawl' but because of how they inject their stamp and their yes, style into the (w)hole of st. If Peter is the cop, then they are the mafia. Why do I say that, Top? Can you muster a guess?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2013 10:35:32 GMT -5
For all the people that are complaining about Enigma ruling the roost and being the center of the forum, they need to look at their own fixation on him and making him the center of the forum. Complaining about it is just doing exactly what is being complained about. Enigma's detractors place him on a higher pedestal (to tear him down from it) than his supporters do. Can you please tell me where there is a complaint in any post of mine in the past couple of days? Even suggesting that he be banned isn't complaining. It's only suggesting that he be banned. Whatever. Actually, I'd say he pretty much assumes his own power. And, he maintains it through his tactics--i.e., always walking the fine line; never revealing too much about himself; rarely saying a kind word to anyone, while also never saying anything harsh; saying stuff that peeps rez with, only to contradict himself days later; not hearing a peep from him while the rest of us talk about him and what he says; etc. Not saying there's anything wrong with this. Not even saying that he's even conscious of it. But, that's what's happening. I'll grant that there are some who could probably take or leave what he says here, and I rather envy those folks, but, I think if you examined every post, say in the last year, (that treat of a spiritual topic of any kind) you'd see that the vast majority are either a) by him b) in response to him or c) in reference to him. Most, if not all of those who are indifferent don't post or read very much, I'd say. He just has that effect on peeps, and I wouldn't doubt if it were intentional. He's like a Jesus figure, without the Romans to just get rid of him. He's the Big Daddy. Face it. Figgles challenges his ideas; Andrew challenges his ideas; I have challenged his ideas (and, I'll admit, I've challenged him personally); Silver, Arisha have challenged both his ideas, as well as his morality; Tzu challenges his ideas ad perpetuam; silence supports him; Reefs is veritable minion. The only long-standing, senior member (I mean, like, with a bunch of posts) I've never seen challenge him or support him is Zendancer. The frog does not drink up the pond in which he lives. -American Indian Proverb
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2013 10:42:45 GMT -5
is this the dumb joke thread? Given the fact that Steve started it, not likely. I mean, everyone knows temp bans don't work!
|
|
|
Post by Beingist on Jun 21, 2013 10:52:47 GMT -5
Can you please tell me where there is a complaint in any post of mine in the past couple of days? Even suggesting that he be banned isn't complaining. It's only suggesting that he be banned. Whatever. Actually, I'd say he pretty much assumes his own power. And, he maintains it through his tactics--i.e., always walking the fine line; never revealing too much about himself; rarely saying a kind word to anyone, while also never saying anything harsh; saying stuff that peeps rez with, only to contradict himself days later; not hearing a peep from him while the rest of us talk about him and what he says; etc. Not saying there's anything wrong with this. Not even saying that he's even conscious of it. But, that's what's happening. I'll grant that there are some who could probably take or leave what he says here, and I rather envy those folks, but, I think if you examined every post, say in the last year, (that treat of a spiritual topic of any kind) you'd see that the vast majority are either a) by him b) in response to him or c) in reference to him. Most, if not all of those who are indifferent don't post or read very much, I'd say. He just has that effect on peeps, and I wouldn't doubt if it were intentional. He's like a Jesus figure, without the Romans to just get rid of him. He's the Big Daddy. Face it. Figgles challenges his ideas; Andrew challenges his ideas; I have challenged his ideas (and, I'll admit, I've challenged him personally); Silver, Arisha have challenged both his ideas, as well as his morality; Tzu challenges his ideas ad perpetuam; silence supports him; Reefs is veritable minion. The only long-standing, senior member (I mean, like, with a bunch of posts) I've never seen challenge him or support him is Zendancer. The frog does not drink up the pond in which he lives. -American Indian Proverb Sorry, verbed, this is unclear to me how it applies. Is this supporting, rejecting, or noncommittal on my post?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2013 11:00:44 GMT -5
The frog does not drink up the pond in which he lives. -American Indian Proverb Sorry, verbed, this is unclear to me how it applies. Is this supporting, rejecting, or noncommittal on my post? Supportive.
|
|