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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2013 2:12:07 GMT -5
Nothing if one is immune! Anyone know of the vaccine? Lol Addressed in the ACIM chat we're having. www.searchwithin.org/download/pregnant_witch.pdfWhen I read this, I intuited the antidote. The key is to not believe in the hypnosis and shift in perception that the entity tries to use to get you to accept it into your energy system. You let go of the experience and root into who you are in relating to the experience. Believe nothing that is perceived and wait for the entity to tire itself out. It's a dominance game. Just be more dominant. For the stronger entities, you have to root into what some call the Ground of Being. Stand upon the Rock and not the shifting sands. Know thyself and you will never be lost again. I have definitely been fooled by my own empathic nature. I constantly remind myself that I need not be a hero or a saviour. The Course addresses this I think when it speaks of unhealed healers. One thing that draws me to Mr. Rose is that he incorporates an understanding that there are certain things in our psyche that need repair, or at least attention. Some of the current literature on enlightenment seems to be saying "screw you , kill the swiss, buddha can suck it, I am awake and you're not, it's all just ego...ego...yada yada ego, the guy flipping you off in traffic may be more enlightened than you are...." I'm starting to think that whatever enlightenment is, I must not be a candidate and maybe I should just focus on watching my energy and at least be a decent animal. Thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2013 6:20:27 GMT -5
Nothing if one is immune! Anyone know of the vaccine? Lol Addressed in the ACIM chat we're having. www.searchwithin.org/download/pregnant_witch.pdfWhen I read this, I intuited the antidote. The key is to not believe in the hypnosis and shift in perception that the entity tries to use to get you to accept it into your energy system. You let go of the experience and root into who you are in relating to the experience. Believe nothing that is perceived and wait for the entity to tire itself out. It's a dominance game. Just be more dominant. For the stronger entities, you have to root into what some call the Ground of Being. Stand upon the Rock and not the shifting sands. Know thyself and you will never be lost again. I'm in complete agreement as to the nature of the groundedness and authenticity that Rose showed in this story. And I understand that the layers of what you have described are available to anyone, given a similar climate. Rose's balance, as a grown man is commendable. Rose had a maturity to him that would naturally attract Agnes's nature. It wasn't about any truth to Fred's prediction. As Rose was learning about the stability of His Love, a temptation, like this, would be given to him, to learn from. It can never be known how much of the original chain of events is true. Due to the inability to lay bare all of the events, in Richard and Agnes's final conversation. Though if there was as much sexual abuse as was claimed, on an adolescent girl, she would be a very guarded example of womanhood. Female and male orgasms are two different emotional movements. Love pours from woman after orgasm and Love is pouring through man before his. Agnes was never educated healthily, about her responsibility for her own charge. Yes she hadn't bonded with her baby because of the distortion during her pregnancy and the environment that led up to it. Because of this lack of bond it was appropriate that the baby returned to where he was loved. This was Fred's lesson, so that the harm perpetuated on his mother during pregnancy would never happen again.
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Post by topology on Apr 28, 2013 8:48:20 GMT -5
Addressed in the ACIM chat we're having. www.searchwithin.org/download/pregnant_witch.pdfWhen I read this, I intuited the antidote. The key is to not believe in the hypnosis and shift in perception that the entity tries to use to get you to accept it into your energy system. You let go of the experience and root into who you are in relating to the experience. Believe nothing that is perceived and wait for the entity to tire itself out. It's a dominance game. Just be more dominant. For the stronger entities, you have to root into what some call the Ground of Being. Stand upon the Rock and not the shifting sands. Know thyself and you will never be lost again. I have definitely been fooled by my own empathic nature. I constantly remind myself that I need not be a hero or a saviour. The Course addresses this I think when it speaks of unhealed healers. One thing that draws me to Mr. Rose is that he incorporates an understanding that there are certain things in our psyche that need repair, or at least attention. Some of the current literature on enlightenment seems to be saying "screw you , kill the swiss, buddha can suck it, I am awake and you're not, it's all just ego...ego...yada yada ego, the guy flipping you off in traffic may be more enlightened than you are...." I'm starting to think that whatever enlightenment is, I must not be a candidate and maybe I should just focus on watching my energy and at least be a decent animal. Thoughts? What does enlightenment mean to you? How do you know or why do you believe such a thing exists? What is your recipe for being a "decent animal"? Does this interest indicate that you view yourself as having been an indecent animal?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2013 20:00:47 GMT -5
I have definitely been fooled by my own empathic nature. I constantly remind myself that I need not be a hero or a saviour. The Course addresses this I think when it speaks of unhealed healers. One thing that draws me to Mr. Rose is that he incorporates an understanding that there are certain things in our psyche that need repair, or at least attention. Some of the current literature on enlightenment seems to be saying "screw you , kill the swiss, buddha can suck it, I am awake and you're not, it's all just ego...ego...yada yada ego, the guy flipping you off in traffic may be more enlightened than you are...." I'm starting to think that whatever enlightenment is, I must not be a candidate and maybe should just focus on watching my energy and at least be a decent animal. Thoughts? What does enlightenment mean to you? How do you know or why do you believe such a thing exists? What is your recipe for being a "decent animal"? Does this interest indicate that you view yourself as having been an indecent animal? "And how shall maddness drive the mind? With promised glories, undefined" I don't know at all anymore what Enlightenment means for me, nor have I found any consistent objective definitions of such a state. Seeking and not finding, as the Course says. As for my definition of decent animal, I mean just living as I do without promise of a "great, far off event".
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Post by topology on Apr 28, 2013 23:07:28 GMT -5
What does enlightenment mean to you? How do you know or why do you believe such a thing exists? What is your recipe for being a "decent animal"? Does this interest indicate that you view yourself as having been an indecent animal? "And how shall maddness drive the mind? With promised glories, undefined" I don't know at all anymore what Enlightenment means for me, nor have I found any consistent objective definitions of such a state. Seeking and not finding, as the Course says. As for my definition of decent animal, I mean just living as I do without promise of a "great, far off event". Ah! I was a heavy seeker in the Rose heritage from 2000 to 2005. I had an event in 2004 which I thought at the time was an enlightenment event, but I have a very different understanding of the event now. But that event fore-grounded my ego and it has been lessons in humility since then. I have no idea what someone is claiming when/if they claim to be enlightened. I'm focused, as you say, on being a decent animal.
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Post by silence on Apr 30, 2013 18:44:13 GMT -5
Addressed in the ACIM chat we're having. www.searchwithin.org/download/pregnant_witch.pdfWhen I read this, I intuited the antidote. The key is to not believe in the hypnosis and shift in perception that the entity tries to use to get you to accept it into your energy system. You let go of the experience and root into who you are in relating to the experience. Believe nothing that is perceived and wait for the entity to tire itself out. It's a dominance game. Just be more dominant. For the stronger entities, you have to root into what some call the Ground of Being. Stand upon the Rock and not the shifting sands. Know thyself and you will never be lost again. I have definitely been fooled by my own empathic nature. I constantly remind myself that I need not be a hero or a saviour. The Course addresses this I think when it speaks of unhealed healers. One thing that draws me to Mr. Rose is that he incorporates an understanding that there are certain things in our psyche that need repair, or at least attention. Some of the current literature on enlightenment seems to be saying "screw you , kill the swiss, buddha can suck it, I am awake and you're not, it's all just ego...ego...yada yada ego, the guy flipping you off in traffic may be more enlightened than you are...." I'm starting to think that whatever enlightenment is, I must not be a candidate and maybe I should just focus on watching my energy and at least be a decent animal. Thoughts? Having worked in social work for years, the point about unhealed healers is especially clear to me. People spend years accumulating degrees to set off and help others while falling apart internally. The same thing happens in spiritual communities where people become addicted to the feel good response of concluding that they're helping someone. The whole ordeal is quite tragic and riddled with self deception. Forget the word enlightenment and you're just left with whatever mess is going on with you now. If there's no mess, so be it. Don't be foolish enough to create an imaginary mess that you have to clean up later. So what is it that actually needs to be healed? What is it that's confused? It's certainly not the body. It's not in the least bit confused about what it needs and how to pump the blood and so on. It's just a pattern of thinking that's habitually dissatisfied with everything. Enlightenment is just another response to that dissatisfaction.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2013 22:49:31 GMT -5
I have definitely been fooled by my own empathic nature. I constantly remind myself that I need not be a hero or a saviour. The Course addresses this I think when it speaks of unhealed healers. One thing that draws me to Mr. Rose is that he incorporates an understanding that there are certain things in our psyche that need repair, or at least attention. Some of the current literature on enlightenment seems to be saying "screw you , kill the swiss, buddha can suck it, I am awake and you're not, it's all just ego...ego...yada yada ego, the guy flipping you off in traffic may be more enlightened than you are...." I'm starting to think that whatever enlightenment is, I must not be a candidate and maybe I should just focus on watching my energy and at least be a decent animal. Thoughts? Having worked in social work for years, the point about unhealed healers is especially clear to me. People spend years accumulating degrees to set off and help others while falling apart internally. The same thing happens in spiritual communities where people become addicted to the feel good response of concluding that they're helping someone. The whole ordeal is quite tragic and riddled with self deception. Forget the word enlightenment and you're just left with whatever mess is going on with you now. If there's no mess, so be it. Don't be foolish enough to create an imaginary mess that you have to clean up later. So what is it that actually needs to be healed? What is it that's confused? It's certainly not the body. It's not in the least bit confused about what it needs and how to pump the blood and so on. It's just a pattern of thinking that's habitually dissatisfied with everything. Enlightenment is just another response to that dissatisfaction. True enough. I've worked in many of those situations myself. Working with SED children was most challenging. I never had the feeling as a support staff that I was doing anything more than damage control, while so many of the therapists seemed to feel they were making a difference.
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