ifriend
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Maitreya The Friend
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Post by ifriend on Jul 18, 2011 12:20:44 GMT -5
Dear Enigma, If you truly want to know Maitreya's approach to those outside of our Religion, truly, take a look at his most recent discourse. If you have the stamina and the forebearance to watch Maitreya from beginning to end, without prejudging him, I think you'll find the answer to your question. youtu.be/ZuZM-y09pcMAll I can say about judging the folks on the forum, if the shoe fits wear it. I was only talking about those who fit the shoe. If you or anyone else who writes on this forum doesn't fit the shoe, and bears the responsibility and sometimes scars from taking on students, in a real and personal way, then more power to you! I commend you and bless you and you have my respect and admiration! But if you don't, at least don't sit back in your armchair and judge those people who do. Again, I quote Mr. Roosevelt: “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.” ifriend, I have to assume your judgment of the folks on this forum is a reflection of your teacher's approach to those outside of his religion?
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ifriend
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Post by ifriend on Jul 18, 2011 12:52:24 GMT -5
Dear Acewall, I've enjoyed writing to you too. The cool thing about the Internet, these forums, freedom, and Maitreya I must add (you knew I would add that right) is that we are all free to post our opinions, thoughts, ideas, in the ways that we see best. Sometimes we're wrong about things and about each other. Sometimes we're right. But at least we're free to express ourselves without some tyrant or dictator telling us what we can and cannot say. One of Maitreya's quotes that I like a lot because I'm pretty much a rugged individualist myself) is: "If you aren't going to do my dying for me, don't try to tell me how to do my living." People who take up spiritual paths freely and willingly give up some of that rugged individualism for the sake of others. I have found that by giving of your whole self to a Cause, Purpose and Mission greater than yourself, you truly become free. Some folks want to maintain their egos, personalities and desires, and cling to them, desperately. I find that people who are unwilling or unable to follow anyone other than their own selves, become like a dog chasing his own tail. (Not to say anyone is a dog, it is just an anology). You just go round and round and don't get anywhere. Of course, you have to be careful, and choose the Teacher and the Cause wisely and carefully. But once you've made your choice, wear it proudly and go forth into this world of darkness and help light it up. And along the way you'll find those folks who, like you, want to serve, want to follow, and want to surrender to God and God's will. Okay, enough of preaching. Good to type to you brother! I exhaulted you with some good Karma (actually we call it Dharma when it's good and Karma when it's bad, but what the heck) Ila Dear Acewall, Well ... this is a forum about Spiritual teachers. Seems many folks on this board want to teach, and preach, quite a bit I may say, but I doubt many, if any, of them have made the sacrifices that all true spiritual teachers make when they take on true followers, with all the problems, egos, and karmas of their students. Believe me when I tell you, it is very easy to sit back and type cliches and intellectualisms, without any personal responsibility for the people you are writing too, and often without any direct knowledge of what you speak of. It is fun, for sure. But it doesn't do any good for anyone or for the world. I promote Maitreya because I have known him for 24 years, because he is a True Teacher and Mercy from God, and because he has been in Perfect Final Union with God twice, and sacrificed it twice, to come back here and try to help this miserable suffering world and the souls within it. Personally. Directly. And caused himself considerable pain and suffering in the process. It is also very easy to judge other people, and be an armchair philosopher. It is more difficult to follow a real, living spiritual teacher and watch that teacher suffer for his Compassion for people who often rarely return the favor. Remember Judas? Even far more difficult to be that Teacher. Believe me. I know. So here is another shameless plug for Maitreya - watch this and I think you will come to get an idea of the kind of man and the kind of Teacher that Maitreya is. Or don't. It's up to you. youtu.be/ZuZM-y09pcMappreciated your taking the time to text-me the above post, (which i enjoyed) and i can see that you're happily entwinned doing what you see as good for Maitreya and the World as well as yourself, as you make your way clear of the dross we all find our-minds attached-to. I think it best to speak-out about 'how our teachers' have helped us conciously close the gap between mind and heart. Perhaps you have already done this here; I am new to this forum.
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Post by enigma on Jul 19, 2011 20:51:39 GMT -5
Dear Enigma, If you truly want to know Maitreya's approach to those outside of our Religion, truly, take a look at his most recent discourse. If you have the stamina and the forebearance to watch Maitreya from beginning to end, without prejudging him, I think you'll find the answer to your question. youtu.be/ZuZM-y09pcMThanks, but I've probly watched an hour or so of him, some of it long before you came here, and I feel like I pretty much have the picture. I don't really have an issue with him or what he says. It seems to be oneness teaching placed in a quasi-religious structure, in the style of the old time charismatic preacher, minus the charisma, which makes him difficult to watch for long. I don't mean to offend, just to clarify where I'm comin from. In any case, I see nothing new there. I don't actually believe that Maitreya shares your judgmental style. I just said what I did as a way of pointing out that difference. I think folks here have been kind and tolerant to you, (my approach is a bit more blunt) and yet you have repeatedly criticized some here, from a safe distance, of being false teachers while expressing your confusion about your perception that you are being criticized. I didn't fall off the turnip truck yesterday (it was a few weeks ago) and I know projection when i see it. How does one become a free, loving teacher of truth from a place of unconsciousness? One does not. Just to clarify, although the forum title would suggest that we're all about talking about teachers, that doesn't happen that much, and as you know, there's a specific category for just that sort of discussion. It also is not a place where teachers come to teach. There may be some here who others find useful to listen to, but nobody has declared themselves a teacher and nobody is interested in following or being followed, your own focus notwithstanding. The reason for this might have something to do with actually understanding the 'teachings'.
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