ifriend
Junior Member
Maitreya The Friend
Posts: 63
|
Post by ifriend on Jul 15, 2011 17:42:03 GMT -5
Sharon, well, Maitreya himself often says, "My mom always told me that when I was born I was injected with a phonographic needle and I haven't stopped talking since." He has a lot to say and a lot to teach and even more to give. If you met him face to face, and had a sincere, heart to heart conversation, you'd find the best communion and communication you'd ever had in your life, with anyone. When I first met him he didn't say a word to me, but it was still the best communion and communication I had ever experienced in my life. Doesn't happen with those who just want to kick his tires or test him or judge him though. And you are right, he has the biggest heart of anyone I have ever met. He cares deeply for people and for humanity, and despite the bad rap he often gets from the bigots and the haters, he cares about them too. BUT he doesn't take any crap either. I'm glad you had a chance to meet Maitreya, if only though Youtube. He is one of a kind. I get the feeling that if I sat in Mr Maitreya's company, I probably wouldn't get a word in edgeways. For every sentence I spoke, he would have many more in reply Sorry couldn't watch all of it ~ he has a big heart though <3
|
|
|
Post by acewall on Jul 15, 2011 21:04:50 GMT -5
one must not be frightened. One can abolish-fear by speaking-out! If we cannot speak freely out of our ego-conciousness, we retain paranoia within the subconcious and may never realise a clarity of mind. Its important to try-out! We learn this way. Sit quietly and listen for a voice that says, 'Be more silent.' ~ Rumi [that guy was a real cut up!] 'See-ing' is important. If we simply go by the outside teacher of the day, or our culture or anothers culture... we retain our Sheep/lamb-like status enroute to the slaughterhouse. Direct See-ing is liberating. Learn to listen without thought but do not become submissive to authority. Challenge all things and also make space to listen to Nature.
|
|
|
Post by acewall on Jul 15, 2011 21:16:55 GMT -5
Jesus knew what Judas was going to do ... Judas didn't. And before that the Crow knew what Jesus was going to do ... Jesus didn't. And before that the Wind knew what the Crow was going to do ... The Crow didn't. And before that The Knew ... The knew I once knew, is forever changing into something new; if I could ever enter a moment would things be different?
|
|
|
Post by acewall on Jul 15, 2011 21:27:22 GMT -5
iFreind... good morning!
Is Maitreya still living then?
Have you been to meet Him?
|
|
|
Post by acewall on Jul 15, 2011 21:29:26 GMT -5
Good morning to the LURKERS too! Sun is well-up here Now and its warm as punch.
|
|
|
Post by enigma on Jul 16, 2011 2:03:56 GMT -5
Kate, false-gurus are teaching you that your 'depth of patience' is bottomless?. Alas, patience is not one of my strong points. I think I'm just noticing how many people feel the need to be a guru of one kind or another, while simultaneously noticing how the same inclination arises in me from time to time. I'm going through something at the moment where I'm feeling a little removed from other people. There's certain sorts of conversations I don't really know how to engage in anymore - philosophical theorising about life, relationships, the quest for happiness. Maybe it involves becoming a better listener, I'm not sure. When I look around me lately I don't see much honesty. Sometimes I find this very frustrating but it also makes me realise that right now self honesty is the only tool I have. Perhaps you're waking up and you look around and notice almost everybody is sleep-walking, interested in dream things and telling dream stories. It can be a bit disconcerting.
|
|
|
Post by therealfake on Jul 16, 2011 9:36:36 GMT -5
If it's familiar it's not the real world... ;D When you perceive it, you don't recognize anything but shapes, colors and movements, which may be the familiarity your speaking about. It is a fact that you cannot know the non conceptual world, with the 'mind'. But if you can 'feel' it, knowledge comes more as an intuition, or a feeling knowing... So the mind knows without really knowing how it knows. But don't take my word for it, it's there right in front of our faces... We just have to perceive it...
|
|
|
Post by zendancer on Jul 16, 2011 11:26:41 GMT -5
The real world can be seen, heard, felt, tasted, smelled, and known through the body. Body-knowing is direct and immediate. It has nothing to do with any thoughts of anything. The real world is beyond color, form, or any other qualities. It is what it is, and the mind can't describe it. The mind is limited to imagination.
When our eyes look at the real world, the real world is seen. The mind then imagines what is being seen in terms of form and void (and other dualities). In order to see form we must simultaneously create void because all dualities coexist and mutually (dependently) arise. After imagining forms, the mind then imagines graphic symbols that can represent the forms, or sounds (spoken words) that can represent and be substituted for the symbols, or symbols that can represent other symbols (as in algebra and all levels of higher math). All thinking and calculation involves the manipulation of images, ideas, and symbols.
In essence, the mind creates a meta-reality, an imaginary representation of the real world, which it then mistakes for the real world. Time, space, and thingness are ideas, only. They are imaginary simulations of the real world. The real world is unified and infinite, and it is always here and now in plain view. A silent mind is not necessary for seeing it......but it sure makes it easier! LOL
|
|
|
Post by therealfake on Jul 16, 2011 14:21:38 GMT -5
I think at times, intellectualizing awakening is helpful and at others it's exactly what has to be transcended... Seeing the non conceptual world is one of those times... You have to 'do' it, which involves the ability to engage ones 'intent'. And although intent isn't personal, it takes effort to direct it and get it to manifest what you want from it... I know, there's the spiritual dogma of 'non effort', verbalized to the point of nausea... But in fact it's useless when it comes to handling the solicitations of the non conceptual world, in which effort, concentration and absolute silence, is required to sustain the perception of it, for even a minute... And if it isn't like that, it's just another conceptualizing game of the mind. Let's not make it one and just 'do' it. Simply 'stop the world' and see what happens...
|
|
ifriend
Junior Member
Maitreya The Friend
Posts: 63
|
Post by ifriend on Jul 16, 2011 17:05:30 GMT -5
Good morning Acewall - or Good afternoon now. The answer is Yes. and Yes. Ila iFreind... good morning! Is Maitreya still living then? Have you been to meet Him?
|
|
|
Post by acewall on Jul 16, 2011 22:14:18 GMT -5
Good morning Acewall - or Good afternoon now. The answer is Yes. and Yes. Ila iFreind... good morning! Is Maitreya still living then? Have you been to meet Him? now that you are YOU are you free to go off into the world as yourself without adverising a teacher along the way? Forgive me if i sound brash, but I see lots of buddists and christians that have become captivated by the net of promises and remain attached to the teachings, inlieu of realising those same teachings which will set us free of seduction, should we unravel their mysteriousness. No Offence intended.
|
|
|
Post by acewall on Jul 16, 2011 22:27:55 GMT -5
My point is, it is the ego which desires.... and works hard to become something of an advertisement of the Way,(Tao) a way that allows us to fall back into the waiting arms of ourself, yet the ego seems to stretch-out and become a spokesperson, much like a Preacher looking to Bring all Souls to God under the same roof, so as to swell the coffers and build higher Church steeples, much higher than the alternative Religious-Orders acrross the street, who are also at it, seeking a following.
Enlightened ppl go their own way, dont they?
If a Butcher becomes enlightened, dont they stay a Butcher?
|
|
|
Post by kate on Jul 17, 2011 2:06:03 GMT -5
you (the watcher) will see the false in action and this SEE-ing is what puts things straight, if bent! No arguments from me on that
|
|
|
Post by acewall on Jul 17, 2011 2:46:27 GMT -5
you (the watcher) will see the false in action and this SEE-ing is what puts things straight, if bent! No arguments from me on that senseless to argue, unless its to clarify the egos viewpoint. What is happening in lifes-fullness is that all life 'alights that which is false', and it appears to me that this same life is what burns-out our minds imperfections, things that we once held precious and have stored for a possible rainy-day within our subconcious. Egos beguins to give up their Ghostly Existance when true SEE-ing starts to make itself known within the individual who is genuinely sincere in their Life.
|
|
|
Post by kate on Jul 17, 2011 2:47:49 GMT -5
Alas, patience is not one of my strong points. I think I'm just noticing how many people feel the need to be a guru of one kind or another, while simultaneously noticing how the same inclination arises in me from time to time. I'm going through something at the moment where I'm feeling a little removed from other people. There's certain sorts of conversations I don't really know how to engage in anymore - philosophical theorising about life, relationships, the quest for happiness. Maybe it involves becoming a better listener, I'm not sure. When I look around me lately I don't see much honesty. Sometimes I find this very frustrating but it also makes me realise that right now self honesty is the only tool I have. Perhaps you're waking up and you look around and notice almost everybody is sleep-walking, interested in dream things and telling dream stories. It can be a bit disconcerting. Whatever the reason it seems to be working in conjunction with a pull towards a greater focus. For the first time in my life I understand why someone might be inclined to go and sit in a cave for 20 years. Somehow I'm back at trying to understand what keeps the idea of me as a person in the middle of everything still there. It's very slippery. It seems like I have these moments where I see that all the layers and separations aren't actually there and it's all the same stuff - brain and body and thoughts and sofas and rain, all the same stuff - but when I nudge up against the implication that has for the supposed person in the middle it all shuts down or something.
|
|