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Post by michaelsees on Apr 13, 2011 11:00:41 GMT -5
Well everything thats happening is exactly what should be happening. And every movement away from this fact is the cross you have to bear. You see this is exactly what I mean neo Advaita BS. How does what you say help it does not. Most of the people I have seen in neo talk like this. They are of no hope, think only of themselves and clever remarks it's BS. If you don't want to plan anything then don't just sit on your butt in your house and do nothing and see what happens, don't go to work, don't buy food and just see. You crack me up and this nonsense is horrible. Why do you think I post so much about it. These folks are the worst hypocrites and they talk like they are all programmed with the same mold yet if you were a fly on the wall in their home you would see a very different person. Michael
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2011 11:28:31 GMT -5
Looking for infinite potential? No, I already have that :-) I am wanting something more. I had so many plans and dreams, and I let them all crumble. I don't even know what I want anymore. Blank canvas. My marriage is still in limbo. I don't hold out much hope at this point: I have given all until I was depleted. Still, I feel I must give him another chance-even if he just wastes it (which would hurt all the more). So for now I am separated and living separately. I invested everything in him, tried to follow his lead. Six years at a job I would have left five years ago. I should have gone to a big college and graduated by now (the plan when we married--but afterward, he said that could not be my life--I had instead chosen to be his wife, so didn't deserve to go to a good college). I feel so far behind. I think this feeling like I need to play catch up has a lot to do with my anxiousness for a change. I am applying to a lot of interesting jobs, including this one at Ratna Ling in California, a retreat center based in Tibetan Buddhist tradition. I wouldn't earn much, but free room and board plus free classes and use of the stuff there. There's also some communities that are alternatives to group homes that pay more than I make now, free room and board, plus I'd finally have health and dental insurance. I have a lot of experience with people who have disabilities, so living alongside and helping them learn how to care for themselves would be quite natural. I am hoping to get one of these jobs. It would tell me a lot how my husband would handle it: Oh woe is me, she's moving away *cries*? Or, okay--I'll have to make greater efforts to visit. I don't want to be quick in giving him another chance. Leaving the first time-saying I want a divorce-was difficult enough, and he came close to really hurting me. Anyone can fake it for a couple months. So I need to see evidence of real change-that our life together would not be more of the same. The problem also is that I don't know what that evidence would look like. I'm in limbo. Want out of limbo. well not that my opinion matters one way or another, and i'm not awake so am not bound by any sort of nondual non-advice (:-)), but i vote college. it's a good time to go into debt too. you're young and the catch up you speak of doesn't really exist. college will give you a hell of a lot of other options. and it's fun. i work with adults struggling to learn English and/or get their GEDs and they feel the same. they'd die to get into college to get some skills/credential so that they could land some sort of job. plus you've got this. alright, you don't really 'have' this, but my guess is that now that you have been exposed to This and your 'you' has been exposed as not really being able to be exposed because it isn't there -- blah blah -- good options, as they are, will show up.
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Post by enigma on Apr 13, 2011 11:58:07 GMT -5
I don't know about "should be." I don't think what is is what should be. Every moment horrible acts are committed, and they are just as they are--but not as they "should be." No one should be starving--they just are. Yeah, I don't care for the notion of 'should be' either, which seems to imply that somebody important has a plan or that it shouldn't be another way. It happens as it does, as an integrated movement that includes everybody and everything, and there's nobody to blame. What's happening is not random and has a vector, a direction, and oddly perhaps, this direction is determined by the delusional aspect of what's happening. IOW, it's the ignorance, fear and confusion that forms the focus of consciousness in the direction of something that is imagined to be better, and this focus creatively plays out as it needs to in order to sustain the movement toward that imaginary goal. Everybody is looking for a better life, whatever that means to a given individual. In this process, obstacles are encountered and must be overcome. All of the obstacles are as illusory as the goal, and so actually overcoming them, as opposed to dodging them temporarily, always means transcending them, which means recognizing their illusory nature and losing interest, whereupon the next imaginary obstacle is encountered. There can be interest, excitement, fun, wonder, glory and suffering involved in this, and that's how life plays out, but it's not becoming anything it isn't already. It's just dissolving it's own illusions Since the focus of consciousness is always on boundaries, and this focus plays out in our experience, this always provides for the maximum opportunity to transcend those boundaries, and so there is a perfection . The individual wants to move beyond illusory boundaries, and so these boundaries are creatively (and spontaneously) expressed and can be explored more closely. As such, while it is a singular, 'collective' movement, all experiences of interest are about the illusions of the individuated expression through which that experience is happening. Our intimate partners are our most powerful angels regardless of whether they happen to be wearing wings or horns. When the message that the horned ones are bringing becomes clear, the dream expression changes quite spontaneously. It can't be otherwise.
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Post by enigma on Apr 13, 2011 12:01:07 GMT -5
"You crack me up and this nonsense is horrible. Why do you think I post so much about it."
Well, offhand I'd say it's an imaginary boundary you're trying to transcend.
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Post by dreamerrach on Apr 13, 2011 12:24:29 GMT -5
Oh, college is certainly going to be pursued. But I am going to go the online route for now until I determine what it is I want to major in. Most of my gen ed classes have been taken. I had always thought I'd be a teacher because I am naturally a great teacher and enjoy children. But I have worked at a school for the past five or six years, and with all the politics and crap that goes into it, NO WAY! So right now I think it would be a waste of time--wheel spinning-to head off to the big city to be just a college student. Nope, I want more than that--I can attend college while doing other stuff. I graduates high school with an associate in child development, and I have acrued a number of credits since then. But I don't know what I want to pursue. I want to do something interesting with my time, as I have just been a part of the daily grind for the past five or six years . . . I am a workaholic; I have had two jobs for the majority of my working life. I make shit, which is fine, but I'd rather be doing something more . . . worthwhile.
This year at the school has been especially difficult. I have had discipline issues like crazy, and the new discipline person at my school is absolutely horrible at his job--to the point where now I refuse to waste my time writing students up or assigning detentions for poor behavior. I won't waste my time. So this is absolutely my last year here; I should have left a long time ago. If it hadn't been for Mike, I would have left after a year or possibly less. But that's woulda, coulda, shoulda.
I feel half-frenzied most of the time. This limbo stuff is difficult. I am relieved that my family fully understands and supports my desire to get out of this town and go have an adventure. I truly am blessed by them; I am glad to have such strong roots. It makes it easier to embark on my own.
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Post by dreamerrach on Apr 13, 2011 12:25:24 GMT -5
It's like those tiny newly hatched spiders casting their webbing to the wind to be scattered and end up where they may.
That's me.
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Post by zendancer on Apr 13, 2011 12:43:37 GMT -5
"You crack me up and this nonsense is horrible. Why do you think I post so much about it." Well, offhand I'd say it's an imaginary boundary you're trying to transcend. Offhand, I'd say it's an imaginary boundary that's not being recognized as imaginary. In fact, I'd say there's an inordinately strong attachment to this boundary.
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Post by enigma on Apr 13, 2011 13:34:51 GMT -5
"You crack me up and this nonsense is horrible. Why do you think I post so much about it." Well, offhand I'd say it's an imaginary boundary you're trying to transcend. Offhand, I'd say it's an imaginary boundary that's not being recognized as imaginary. In fact, I'd say there's an inordinately strong attachment to this boundary. Zakly. Okay, lets indulge and take an intuitive look-see at our friend.....No, wait! This is fun. Ommmmmmmm -------Aligning with the purple ray of the sphinx star of the Great Pyramid----- Michael is the scholar who places inordinate importance on accurate information, and so anything perceived as less accurate is struggled with. This presents a problem with nonduality in that true information is an oxymoron. Ultimately, it's an exploration of judgment, and in this case the transcendence would be in the direction of recognizing that information is ultimately irrelevant and the difficulty is in the illusory nature of all knowledge, the grasping of which forms the delusional boundaries that we are then obliged to face. The grasping of knowledge that is not ultimately True forms a projection in which there is a reflection of the grasping and teaching of false knowledge, apparently happening in other people. Others are seen as never quite living up to the standard of True knowledge that the 'knowledgeable one' holds and continually reinforces as a self image through personal experiences and scholarly research.
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Post by michaelsees on Apr 13, 2011 13:59:54 GMT -5
Offhand, I'd say it's an imaginary boundary that's not being recognized as imaginary. In fact, I'd say there's an inordinately strong attachment to this boundary. Zakly. Okay, lets indulge and take an intuitive look-see at our friend.....No, wait! This is fun. Ommmmmmmm -------Aligning with the purple ray of the sphinx star of the Great Pyramid----- Michael is the scholar who places inordinate importance on accurate information, and so anything perceived as less accurate is struggled with. This presents a problem with nonduality in that true information is an oxymoron. Ultimately, it's an exploration of judgment, and in this case the transcendence would be in the direction of recognizing that information is ultimately irrelevant and the difficulty is in the illusory nature of all knowledge, the grasping of which forms the delusional boundaries that we are then obliged to face. The grasping of knowledge that is not ultimately True forms a projection in which there is a reflection of the grasping and teaching of false knowledge, apparently happening in other people. Others are seen as never quite living up to the standard of True knowledge that the 'knowledgeable one' holds and continually reinforces as a self image through personal experiences and scholarly research. Well true knowledge is by just using pointers and concepts you always end up with a conceptual awakening like I would say almost everyone that is active on this site and feels they are awaken falls into this conceptual awakening. It's really all it is.. But yes there is more too it much more..real awakening is rare and conceptual awakening because of folks like Eckhart Tolle is very viral these days everyone "got it" Michael
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Post by dreamerrach on Apr 13, 2011 14:02:28 GMT -5
>.< Well that's helpful....
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Post by souley on Apr 13, 2011 14:02:43 GMT -5
Projection?
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Post by dreamerrach on Apr 13, 2011 14:07:32 GMT -5
Moi?
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Post by souley on Apr 13, 2011 14:10:16 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2011 14:12:42 GMT -5
It makes it easier to embark on my own. that train has already left the station ... enjoy the ride!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2011 14:17:07 GMT -5
yea the awakened one in question is one of the few on this site that i have seen lead with the statement 'i am awakened' and is also one of the few that appears to be most asleep! not surprising really.
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