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Post by Portto on Apr 7, 2011 17:24:04 GMT -5
No, it's not actually a high metabolism, and my body temperature is normal. For me, this energy doesn't directly translate into physical energy for the body or measurable heat in the body. In fact, it can be draining. It doesn't feel like a normal body overheating, really. It feels like a hot flow running up the middle of my body, like I'm being cooked from the inside out. The sweating doesn't always happen, (usually only at night) but the 'cooking' does. Wow, interesting! There must be some sort of interface with the body, since you can feel the flow. If there's no increased metabolism, then it could be some sort of extrasensory perception. There you go - you got an extra sensing "device."
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Post by enigma on Apr 7, 2011 18:54:11 GMT -5
Well, my skin seems to be very sensitive to heat. I can feel the heat of a candle from, like, 15 feet away. Also, since I directly feel the energy flowing, I get a kind of biofeedback about my mental focus. What most of would consider a 'higher focus' increases the energy, and a 'lower focus' decreases it. Sometimes I have to 'regulate' the flow because it can become extremely uncomfortable. Something that works very well for that is watching "Jackass" videos. Hehe. Apparently, it's a very low level focus of consciousness. Ego reactions that we see on these forums has a similar effect.
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Post by Portto on Apr 8, 2011 10:24:13 GMT -5
Ok, so it seems that you have very high sensitivity to certain types of electromagnetic energy that most people just ignore. It could be that the mental focus is making you more or less sensitive to that energy. You become more or less conscious about it being there. And that may alter the 'flow.'
My guess is that the energy is always here/there but it's not always perceived. And ultimately, the energy and the perception of energy are simultaneous
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Post by enigma on Apr 8, 2011 11:28:38 GMT -5
As I see it, mind and body are different aspects of the same thing. What we see as body energy is the uniting principle. It's not energy as we would define it scientifically, and so it can't be measured directly, only indirectly as it expresses in the form of electromagnetic fields in the body or changes in brain or body function. I see this energy as the link between the physical and non-physical: the point where consciousness expresses as form. As such, in this context, this energy is what forms and sustains the body/mind. When this energy flow becomes constricted, there is disease at the point of constriction. When the flow stops, there is death.
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Post by Portto on Apr 8, 2011 16:32:12 GMT -5
That sounds very good, Enigma. For a more detailed picture, what is it that unites the energy with the boy, and what is it that unites the energy with the non-physical?
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Post by enigma on Apr 8, 2011 20:39:15 GMT -5
Dunno. I don't see any other uniting thingys there.
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Post by Portto on Apr 8, 2011 21:10:25 GMT -5
Indeed, I don't see any either. But this is how this kind of energy appeared, to link the nonphysical to the physical.
Now we have: nonphysical .... energy .... physical
If this energy is neither nonphysical nor physical, there must be something else that enables the energy to interact with them, the same way the nonphysical needs this sort of energy to interact with the physical.
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Post by enigma on Apr 8, 2011 22:54:49 GMT -5
Indeed, I don't see any either. But this is how this kind of energy appeared, to link the nonphysical to the physical. Now we have: nonphysical .... energy .... physical If this energy is neither nonphysical nor physical, there must be something else that enables the energy to interact with them, the same way the nonphysical needs this sort of energy to interact with the physical. Well, this is fun, really, but it feels like I hafta get all non-dual and stuff here. Nothing at all is needed, not even energy. Energy is an expression the same way physicality is. In the same way that no mass is actually needed in order for gravity to work, energy is not needed for the body to work. There are ways that things seem to happen. Mass seems to translate into gravitational force, and so we can talk about it in that way. Energy seems to sustain the body and so we can manipulate it and talk about it in that way. Consciousness seems to have inserted this energy factor and it seems to have collected enough momentum that it functions in some way in every body whether it is believed to be real or not, but as far as I know consciousness hasn't imagined any other connecting links into apparent existence, and certainly none are needed.
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Post by dagon on Apr 9, 2011 9:13:19 GMT -5
I think what Enigma is experiencing is called Heart Fire. You can stop it at anytime by moving the fire to your dantient, or 2nd chakra and hold it there as long as you can. If you can get it all the way to root, you can expel your semen into the fire and create an energy store in your Dan Tien. Which is why celebacy is important for energy generation.
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Post by dagon on Apr 9, 2011 9:14:30 GMT -5
If you are working on metta and experiencing the heartfire, then you are probably focusing a little low. Try focusing higher in your chest.
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Post by Portto on Apr 9, 2011 9:24:27 GMT -5
Indeed, I don't see any either. But this is how this kind of energy appeared, to link the nonphysical to the physical. Now we have: nonphysical .... energy .... physical If this energy is neither nonphysical nor physical, there must be something else that enables the energy to interact with them, the same way the nonphysical needs this sort of energy to interact with the physical. Well, this is fun, really, but it feels like I hafta get all non-dual and stuff here. Nothing at all is needed, not even energy. Energy is an expression the same way physicality is. In the same way that no mass is actually needed in order for gravity to work, energy is not needed for the body to work. There are ways that things seem to happen. Mass seems to translate into gravitational force, and so we can talk about it in that way. Energy seems to sustain the body and so we can manipulate it and talk about it in that way. Consciousness seems to have inserted this energy factor and it seems to have collected enough momentum that it functions in some way in every body whether it is believed to be real or not, but as far as I know consciousness hasn't imagined any other connecting links into apparent existence, and certainly none are needed. It's fun indeed, thanks for chatting. And actually, the 'consciousness of physicists' has already imagined many connecting links for the interaction of energy and matter, which can be reduced to four fundamental forces. So there are at least 4 links for the right part of the triad. Now, it's gurus' task to imagine links for the left part, and I see some mentioned on the forum.
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Post by dagon on Apr 9, 2011 9:48:46 GMT -5
Well, this is fun, really, but it feels like I hafta get all non-dual and stuff here. Nothing at all is needed, not even energy. Energy is an expression the same way physicality is. In the same way that no mass is actually needed in order for gravity to work, energy is not needed for the body to work. There are ways that things seem to happen. Mass seems to translate into gravitational force, and so we can talk about it in that way. Energy seems to sustain the body and so we can manipulate it and talk about it in that way. Consciousness seems to have inserted this energy factor and it seems to have collected enough momentum that it functions in some way in every body whether it is believed to be real or not, but as far as I know consciousness hasn't imagined any other connecting links into apparent existence, and certainly none are needed. It's fun indeed, thanks for chatting. And actually, the 'consciousness of physicists' has already imagined many connecting links for the interaction of energy and matter, which can be reduced to four fundamental forces. So there are at least 4 links for the right part of the triad. Now, it's gurus' task to imagine links for the left part, and I see some mentioned on the forum. Hehehe, The golden gate is being pointed at The plane of neutrality that all polarities might exist.
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Post by dagon on Apr 9, 2011 9:51:50 GMT -5
Lately, I hear more and more of people mentioning the fire, I'm wondering if it isn't more active due to the meltdown in japan.
It make sense that, as more people become more interconnected within the strings of existence, more existence is percieved.
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Post by Portto on Apr 9, 2011 10:08:52 GMT -5
Hehehe, The golden gate is being pointed at The plane of neutrality that all polarities might exist. Hi Dagon, Welcome to the forum! It seems that you are a specialist in subtle energies and planes and chakras. What is your direct experience of these things?
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Post by dagon on Apr 9, 2011 10:11:45 GMT -5
I would ask you the same
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