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Post by Peter on Jan 25, 2017 5:11:56 GMT -5
Since you say you're not interested, he can't call you a fool? I don't follow that logic at all. My objection is to him calling you a fool in any case, regardless of whether he can or cannot rightly do so in your opinion. Obviously he can; he did! Your mind is telling you you're not interested because it's not ready to see what's being pointed to. This is why beginner's mind is so useful, because it's interested in everything and doesn't take offence at not knowing. But you aren't a mere beginner are you Gopal? You know lots of things. P I say something to you, You say you are not interested and then I call you 'Hey Peter, you are a fool', Is it correct way that I can make you fool?. If you are not interested in what I say why would I consider you as a fool or stupid or something like that? Is it not your wish to have a interest in what I say ? Well Gopal, I wouldn't take the time to construct a post saying "I'm not interested". That's just rude. I'd simply not respond. Which is rude too, but less so. You calling me a fool doesn't make me a fool. Me BEING a fool makes it so. I have to stop now, I have a ton of work to get done and a house full of builders to interrupt me from doing it. Apologies for my rudeness. |
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Post by Peter on Jan 25, 2017 5:08:04 GMT -5
Better make some one like Laughter as a moderator who can regularly read the post so that they can understand what's going on here . Yes I agree it would be better to find another moderator who can devote more time to following conversations. They'd probably make better decisions than I do, if they'd paid more attention. |
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Post by Peter on Jan 25, 2017 5:04:26 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't think you're talking about the archetypal or spiritual fool here. I find myself in a tricky position, because on the one hand I dislike the name calling, and on the other hand I think that - aggravating and bordering on abuse though your dialog is - you're making a fair point that Gopal is avoiding looking at his true nature. I think it's true to say that we all have an idea of ourselves and our minds will just slip away from thinking about or seeing anything that is in contradiction to that idea. So Awakesowhat, please try and make your fair point using fair language. Gopal, please try and see what's true FIRST, and take offence at a perceived slight SECOND. Dude, Pay attention please. Whether to respond or not is my wish. Since I don't want to reply or respond, he can't call me fool and saying that fool never wants to be found out. All I said was 'I am not interested' , what's wrong in that? Let me know. Whether to avoid or respond is my own wish. Since you say you're not interested, he can't call you a fool? I don't follow that logic at all. My objection is to him calling you a fool in any case, regardless of whether he can or cannot rightly do so in your opinion. Obviously he can; he did! Your mind is telling you you're not interested because it's not ready to see what's being pointed to. This is why beginner's mind is so useful, because it's interested in everything and doesn't take offence at not knowing. But you aren't a mere beginner are you Gopal? You know lots of things. P |
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Post by Peter on Jan 25, 2017 4:45:46 GMT -5
of course not you are a fool and a fool never wants to be found out. Yeah, I don't think you're talking about the archetypal or spiritual fool here. I find myself in a tricky position, because on the one hand I dislike the name calling, and on the other hand I think that - aggravating and bordering on abuse though your dialog is - you're making a fair point that Gopal is avoiding looking at his true nature. I think it's true to say that we all have an idea of ourselves and our minds will just slip away from thinking about or seeing anything that is in contradiction to that idea. So Awakesowhat, please try and make your fair point using fair language. Gopal, please try and see what's true FIRST, and take offence at a perceived slight SECOND. |
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Post by Peter on Jan 19, 2017 4:39:22 GMT -5
It is unacceptable to make posts that are nothing but name calling. I've still to get back to you about the PM you sent me Sadsack. You made some good points, which I'll respond to when time permits. P One of the Other posters here in ST.org alerted me to Gurdjiefs Idiot-Philosophy Peter, where it is a gem to be called an Idiot. Gurdjief of course was the #1 Idiot, mapped-out the lesser Idiots. Have you had a complaint from Ruby's Guru or Ruby Himself? Idiot signifies the NO-Mans Land
that fit either side of Spiritual-Stations us other Idiots
pass-through enroute the supreme.
Like Alfio is an idiot and so is Peter if you understand what I mean.  Well deflected, just like you played the Gopal/Ruby complaint. I'm fairly certain that 90% of brain activity in humans is taken up finding rational justifications, after the fact, for behaviour that they have little or not conscious control over. If you mean 'Idiot' in a Gurdjieff context, please indicate which particular classification of idiot you're referring to and provide a link for the enlightenment of all readers. Otherwise it will be taken at face value, and you will be banned. To answer your question, I had complaints from a number of forum members. |
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Post by Peter on Jan 18, 2017 9:39:17 GMT -5
Of course. You may return to the galaxy once you've deciphered what that is. Idiot It is unacceptable to make posts that are nothing but name calling. I've still to get back to you about the PM you sent me Sadsack. You made some good points, which I'll respond to when time permits. P |
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Post by Peter on Jan 6, 2017 5:19:52 GMT -5
You have committed Vaishnav aparadha. You will be punished. Mark my words. Hi Krsnaraj. You may not threaten other members of this board, however irritating they might be. This includes threats to set your Big Brother / Legal Authorities / Dog / God / Gods or Spiritual Familiars on them, directly, indirectly or as a natural consequence of the order of the universe. If people lump up bad Karma for themselves here, then that is their own concern and will process in it's own time and in it's own way. No need for you to add to your own in addition to that. Thanks, Peter |
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Post by Peter on Dec 13, 2016 4:47:24 GMT -5
When you go to a restaurant, how do you decide what to order? I eat everything on the menu and order whichever dish I liked most. Unless it's too expensive. If the universe/God is benign, why is there so much suffering in the world? Your premise is faulty. |
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Post by Peter on Dec 5, 2016 4:52:34 GMT -5
LOL This is such great entertainment E and Gopal make the perfect husband and Wife team. E being the husband that can never ever be proven wrong. Even if the proof is stacked against him his cunning will find just enough wiggle room for his argument. Since he is the man in the family he wears the pants. Now Gopal as the wife is the woman that is never understood. She knows what she knows, however has a impossible time explaining herself. So when the rest of the forum has to read these numerous posts day after day lets give thanks. May we clearly understand this is a uncommon marriage that may go one forever so help us god.  You did say you were going to ignore Gopal from now on, and so I let your last abusive post go, Awakesowhat, but you didn't stick to that. I don't see any actual point being made here, it's just provocation that I can only assume is for your own amusement. 1 month. |
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Post by Peter on Dec 1, 2016 6:49:49 GMT -5
I'm glad to hear that. You crossed a line calling Gopal a disgusting idiot, but if you're really done talking to him I'll leave it at that. I agree with your underlying point btw, just not how you expressed it.P You agreed? What kind of pretense I have done to create a pleasant appearance or respectable appearance? I wasn't aware of any pretence on your part, Gopal. The point to which I was agreeing was that you were dismissive of what ZD had shared and that's been going on for a while now. But you weren't openly abusive while doing so, unlike 'Awake'. |
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Post by Peter on Dec 1, 2016 6:31:57 GMT -5
As I said I had enough of your charades I'm glad to hear that. You crossed a line calling Gopal a disgusting idiot, but if you're really done talking to him I'll leave it at that. I agree with your underlying point btw, just not how you expressed it. P |
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Post by Peter on Nov 29, 2016 4:57:46 GMT -5
NB Slap the floor with the hand, not with the students. Reported post, tick. How do you interpret this line? "slap both Source and Gopal to the floor " ZD meant to say to slap to the floor, but not awakesowhat. Yup, I got that, hence my rebuttal. |
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Post by Peter on Nov 29, 2016 4:29:49 GMT -5
... I once went for a Zen interview and was asked that koan. I did not know the answer, and told the teacher that. He said, "First hit!" meaning, before attempting to answer the question slap the floor as an initial (mind-freeing) response. Thanks I get this strong feeling now to slap both Source and Gopal to the floor!  NB Slap the floor with the hand, not with the students. Reported post, tick. |
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Post by Peter on Nov 3, 2016 4:35:58 GMT -5
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Post by Peter on Oct 10, 2016 6:36:40 GMT -5
They are beautiful lines but unfortunately it's not the truth. My face is here now. There is nothing to save. ha ha That's the Good Joke! So when Peter says something about you,that's not the truth, when he says something about me,that's the divine truth, Correct? That's exactly how it works right there Gopal. You think I'm wrong about banning you; you think my objections to your writing are incorrect or biased. And yet you think I'm correct when I write about Satch and in that case he doesn't recognise what I'm saying as having any validity. It's egoic protection. We can't see what we're not ready to see. And in fact, having someone try and beat you with it just brings up those defences all the stronger. You know, reminding yourself that people are neither in control of themselves nor able to see clearly might help you to be less angry about the whole thing. Thinking that you 'have something' is the worst place to be, I think, spiritually speaking. Better to think that you've got faults and a lot to learn. You might actually make some progress then. P |
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