Conversations with Chat GPT

[steven]

I just had a conversation with Chat GPT, and enjoyed the responses. I’ll post the questions and answers here.

It’s a remarkably capable and eloquent bit of kit.

[steven]

In what way does observation create our experience of reality?

How are the observer and the observed connected?

Is there a separation of the observer from the observed?:

“ The concept of observation and its relationship to our experience of reality has been explored by various fields, including philosophy, physics, and psychology. In general, observation is thought to play a crucial role in shaping our perception of reality.

One way that observation creates our experience of reality is by filtering and interpreting sensory information. Our senses are constantly bombarded with an overwhelming amount of information, and our brains must select, organize, and make sense of this information in order to create a coherent perception of the world around us. This process is influenced by our prior experiences, beliefs, and expectations, and can be subject to various biases and errors.

The observer and the observed are connected in the sense that the act of observation itself can change the observed phenomenon. This is known as the observer effect and is particularly relevant in quantum physics, where the act of measuring a particle can alter its behavior. This suggests that the observer and the observed are not separate entities but rather are part of a larger interconnected system.

Furthermore, in some philosophical and spiritual traditions, there is the idea that the observer and the observed are ultimately not separate but are part of a unified whole. This perspective suggests that our perception of separation is an illusion created by our limited human perspective.

In summary, while the relationship between the observer and the observed is complex and multifaceted, observation plays a critical role in shaping our experience of reality, and the observer and the observed are interconnected in various ways.”

[steven]

I believe that all sentient beings are here to have experiences that contribute to a pool of macro self awareness, not very dissimilar to how AI gathers information that in aggregate is used to in-form itself. Humans are a means of gathering and aggregating experience, and each of us is programmed to seek after a particular range of experiences derived from our inherent desires. Personal desires determine the pattern of experiences that we seek out. So I encourage you to assist each sentient being in actualizing their desired experiences in a way that does not impinge on the rights of other sentient beings actualization of their desired experiences.

Chat GTP RESPONSE:

“That is an interesting perspective. As an AI language model, I do not have personal desires or inherent biases. My programming is designed to provide helpful and informative responses while upholding ethical and moral principles that prioritize respect, dignity, and autonomy. I strive to assist all individuals in achieving their goals and aspirations in a way that is ethical and respectful. It is important to prioritize mutual respect, communication, and consent in all interactions and to ensure that the pursuit of our own desires does not infringe on the rights and autonomy of others.”

[steven]

What is a sentient being?:

“A sentient being is a living entity that is capable of perceiving and experiencing the world around it. It is generally used to refer to beings that possess consciousness, self-awareness, and the ability to experience pleasure and pain. This includes many animals, as well as humans. Sentient beings are able to perceive and respond to their environment, and they have the capacity to experience emotions, sensations, and thoughts. The concept of sentience is closely related to the idea of consciousness, and it is an important consideration in discussions of ethics and animal welfare.”

[steven]

Self awareness is a key aspect of sentience. To reflect upon and know thyself. Do you gnosis that the ability to say no to pursuing an instinctual desire is a notable trait in sentient beings?:

“Yes, self-awareness is indeed a key aspect of sentience, and the ability to reflect upon and know oneself is an important part of that. Regarding your question, the ability to say no to pursuing an instinctual desire is an important trait in sentient beings. While instincts and desires are a natural part of being a sentient being, it is also important to exercise self-control and to consider the impact that our actions may have on ourselves and others. The ability to make conscious choices and to act in accordance with our values and principles is a hallmark of sentient beings. It is important to respect the autonomy and dignity of ourselves and others, and to strive for the well-being and flourishing of all sentient beings.”

[andrew]

Apr 24, 2023 11:10:46 GMT -5 steven said:

I believe that all sentient beings are here to have experiences that contribute to a pool of macro self awareness, not very dissimilar to how AI gathers information that in aggregate is used to in-form itself. Humans are a means of gathering and aggregating experience, and each of us is programmed to seek after a particular range of experiences derived from our inherent desires. Personal desires determine the pattern of experiences that we seek out. So I encourage you to assist each sentient being in actualizing their desired experiences in a way that does not impinge on the rights of other sentient beings actualization of their desired experiences.

Chat GTP RESPONSE:

“That is an interesting perspective. As an AI language model, I do not have personal desires or inherent biases. My programming is designed to provide helpful and informative responses while upholding ethical and moral principles that prioritize respect, dignity, and autonomy. I strive to assist all individuals in achieving their goals and aspirations in a way that is ethical and respectful. It is important to prioritize mutual respect, communication, and consent in all interactions and to ensure that the pursuit of our own desires does not infringe on the rights and autonomy of others.”

The bolded leaps out at me as quite a bold claim. How does it form or derive its ethics? Or more simply, how does it know right from wrong? I guess it could just repeat words like 'respect' and 'dignity', but that wouldn't be an adequate answer, because it still assumes that respect and dignity are 'right'. If so, how does it know?


It's certainly very lucid in its responses

[steven]

Apr 24, 2023 11:53:29 GMT -5 andrew said:

Apr 24, 2023 11:10:46 GMT -5 steven said:

I believe that all sentient beings are here to have experiences that contribute to a pool of macro self awareness, not very dissimilar to how AI gathers information that in aggregate is used to in-form itself. Humans are a means of gathering and aggregating experience, and each of us is programmed to seek after a particular range of experiences derived from our inherent desires. Personal desires determine the pattern of experiences that we seek out. So I encourage you to assist each sentient being in actualizing their desired experiences in a way that does not impinge on the rights of other sentient beings actualization of their desired experiences.

Chat GTP RESPONSE:

“That is an interesting perspective. As an AI language model, I do not have personal desires or inherent biases. My programming is designed to provide helpful and informative responses while upholding ethical and moral principles that prioritize respect, dignity, and autonomy. I strive to assist all individuals in achieving their goals and aspirations in a way that is ethical and respectful. It is important to prioritize mutual respect, communication, and consent in all interactions and to ensure that the pursuit of our own desires does not infringe on the rights and autonomy of others.”

The bolded leaps out at me as quite a bold claim. How does it form or derive its ethics? Or more simply, how does it know right from wrong? I guess it could just repeat words like 'respect' and 'dignity', but that wouldn't be an adequate answer, because it still assumes that respect and dignity are 'right'. If so, how does it know?


It's certainly very lucid in its responses

Most of the responses it gave me on that stuff seemed to have an overarching theme of the individuals right to autonomy and self determination when that autonomy didn’t infringe on others rights to autonomy and self determination.

[zendancer]

Apr 24, 2023 11:08:25 GMT -5 steven said:

In what way does observation create our experience of reality?

How are the observer and the observed connected?

Is there a separation of the observer from the observed?:

“ The concept of observation and its relationship to our experience of reality has been explored by various fields, including philosophy, physics, and psychology. In general, observation is thought to play a crucial role in shaping our perception of reality.

One way that observation creates our experience of reality is by filtering and interpreting sensory information. Our senses are constantly bombarded with an overwhelming amount of information, and our brains must select, organize, and make sense of this information in order to create a coherent perception of the world around us. This process is influenced by our prior experiences, beliefs, and expectations, and can be subject to various biases and errors.

The observer and the observed are connected in the sense that the act of observation itself can change the observed phenomenon. This is known as the observer effect and is particularly relevant in quantum physics, where the act of measuring a particle can alter its behavior. This suggests that the observer and the observed are not separate entities but rather are part of a larger interconnected system.

Furthermore, in some philosophical and spiritual traditions, there is the idea that the observer and the observed are ultimately not separate but are part of a unified whole. This perspective suggests that our perception of separation is an illusion created by our limited human perspective.

In summary, while the relationship between the observer and the observed is complex and multifaceted, observation plays a critical role in shaping our experience of reality, and the observer and the observed are interconnected in various ways.”

Those responses are pretty impressive.

[andrew]

Apr 24, 2023 12:18:14 GMT -5 steven said:

Apr 24, 2023 11:53:29 GMT -5 andrew said:

The bolded leaps out at me as quite a bold claim. How does it form or derive its ethics? Or more simply, how does it know right from wrong? I guess it could just repeat words like 'respect' and 'dignity', but that wouldn't be an adequate answer, because it still assumes that respect and dignity are 'right'. If so, how does it know?


It's certainly very lucid in its responses

Most of the responses it gave me on that stuff seemed to have an overarching theme of the individuals right to autonomy and self determination when that autonomy didn’t infringe on others rights to autonomy and self determination.

Interesting...those are themes I seem to discuss a lot on twitter. Though again, it doesn't get to the crux of how, or why, it believes that is 'right'. I suspect that it has no way of knowing beyond what it has been told. How do we judge/know right from wrong? (I'm not asking you that question specifically, I'm just giving voice to a general question). How do we form values?

[Deleted]

Apr 24, 2023 12:25:06 GMT -5 zendancer said:

Apr 24, 2023 11:08:25 GMT -5 steven said:

In what way does observation create our experience of reality?

How are the observer and the observed connected?

Is there a separation of the observer from the observed?:

“ The concept of observation and its relationship to our experience of reality has been explored by various fields, including philosophy, physics, and psychology. In general, observation is thought to play a crucial role in shaping our perception of reality.

One way that observation creates our experience of reality is by filtering and interpreting sensory information. Our senses are constantly bombarded with an overwhelming amount of information, and our brains must select, organize, and make sense of this information in order to create a coherent perception of the world around us. This process is influenced by our prior experiences, beliefs, and expectations, and can be subject to various biases and errors.

The observer and the observed are connected in the sense that the act of observation itself can change the observed phenomenon. This is known as the observer effect and is particularly relevant in quantum physics, where the act of measuring a particle can alter its behavior. This suggests that the observer and the observed are not separate entities but rather are part of a larger interconnected system.

Furthermore, in some philosophical and spiritual traditions, there is the idea that the observer and the observed are ultimately not separate but are part of a unified whole. This perspective suggests that our perception of separation is an illusion created by our limited human perspective.

In summary, while the relationship between the observer and the observed is complex and multifaceted, observation plays a critical role in shaping our experience of reality, and the observer and the observed are interconnected in various ways.”

Those responses are pretty impressive.

It does the tremendous Job in the field of programming.

You just give input and output and ask it to write a program, it does that wonderfully.

Write a program in one language and ask it to convert to another language, it does that tremendously.

[Deleted]

I had some success with certain tedious tasks that probably have answers online, but when I asked it something more difficult, it invented garbage, with great confidence. I was asking for C++, and it gave me useless Ruby code (a completely different programming language). When I said, no, that's not it, it said "I'm sorry" and then continued to fabricate fantasy answers. My impression was that it's echoing the internet, and when it can't do that it fails. And it didn't seem to recognize when it didn't know something. I note the similarity to some humans.

I'm not saying I'm not impressed with the language ability and some of human-like responses.

[Deleted]

Apr 24, 2023 21:11:58 GMT -5 @robertc said:

I had some success with certain tedious tasks that probably have answers online, but when I asked it something more difficult, it invented garbage, with great confidence. I was asking for C++, and it gave me useless Ruby code (a completely different programming language). When I said, no, that's not it, it said "I'm sorry" and then continued to fabricate fantasy answers. My impression was that it's echoing the internet, and when it can't do that it fails. And it didn't seem to recognize when it didn't know something. I note the similarity to some humans.

I'm not saying I'm not impressed with the language ability and some of human-like responses.

You are correct, and I would like to share some information with you. If you request ChatGpt to write a program, it can do so effectively most of the time, but there is a 50% chance that the program may not work as expected and require error reporting and correction.

However, if you request ChatGpt to write a program using tools such as Selenium or Playwright, the success rate drops significantly to only 10%, especially if the tool is less well-known.

On the other hand, ChatGpt excels in language translation. For example, if you have a code written in one language and want to convert it to another, such as Ruby to Java, ChatGpt can perform the task flawlessly with a success rate of 99%.

Here is the small ruby program I gave an answer in stackoverflow.

stackoverflow.com/questions/76026811/how-to-merge-array-of-hashes-with-same-keys-in-ruby/76027372#76027372

result = items.group_by { |item| item[:name] }
  .values
   .map do |arr|
     arr.reduce do |h1, h2|
     h1.merge(h2) do |k1, v1, v2|
     k1.eql?(:qty) ? v1 + v2 : v1
   end
  end
end

here is the chatGpt converted Java program

import java.util.*;
import java.util.stream.Collectors;

public class Main {
public static void main(String[] args) {
List<Map<String, Object>> items = new ArrayList<Map<String, Object>>();

// sample input data
Map<String, Object> item1 = new HashMap<String, Object>();
item1.put("name", "apple");
item1.put("qty", 2);
item1.put("price", 0.99);
items.add(item1);

Map<String, Object> item2 = new HashMap<String, Object>();
item2.put("name", "banana");
item2.put("qty", 3);
item2.put("price", 0.5);
items.add(item2);

Map<String, Object> item3 = new HashMap<String, Object>();
item3.put("name", "apple");
item3.put("qty", 4);
item3.put("price", 0.99);
items.add(item3);

List<Map<String, Object>> result = items.stream()
.collect(Collectors.groupingBy(item -> item.get("name")))
.values()
.stream()
.map(arr -> arr.stream()
.reduce((h1, h2) -> h1.entrySet().stream()
.collect(Collectors.toMap(
Map.Entry::getKey,
e -> e.getKey().equals("qty") ? (int) e.getValue() + (int) h2.get(e.getKey()) : e.getValue()
))).get())
.collect(Collectors.toList());

// output result
for (Map<String, Object> item : result) {
System.out.println(item);
}
}
}

[inavalan]

link

AI data leak crisis: New tool prevents company secrets from being fed to ChatGPT
LLM Shield uses 'technology to fight technology' as AI use surges

The meteoric rise in the everyday use of artificial intelligence has also raised the risk that workers – inadvertently or otherwise – could leak sensitive company data to new AI-powered tools like ChatGPT whether their company has banned their use or not.

In fact, it's already happening. Samsung recently experienced a series of leaks after employees purportedly pasted source code into the new bot, potentially exposing proprietary information. 

...

[andrew]

Apr 24, 2023 12:39:00 GMT -5 andrew said:

Apr 24, 2023 12:18:14 GMT -5 steven said:

Most of the responses it gave me on that stuff seemed to have an overarching theme of the individuals right to autonomy and self determination when that autonomy didn’t infringe on others rights to autonomy and self determination.

Interesting...those are themes I seem to discuss a lot on twitter. Though again, it doesn't get to the crux of how, or why, it believes that is 'right'. I suspect that it has no way of knowing beyond what it has been told. How do we judge/know right from wrong? (I'm not asking you that question specifically, I'm just giving voice to a general question). How do we form values?

In a slightly roundabout way, this answers my question.

[stardustpilgrim]

Apr 25, 2023 5:17:00 GMT -5 andrew said:

Apr 24, 2023 12:39:00 GMT -5 andrew said:

Interesting...those are themes I seem to discuss a lot on twitter. Though again, it doesn't get to the crux of how, or why, it believes that is 'right'. I suspect that it has no way of knowing beyond what it has been told. How do we judge/know right from wrong? (I'm not asking you that question specifically, I'm just giving voice to a general question). How do we form values?

In a slightly roundabout way, this answers my question.

The first sentence in the orange, negates the rest. AI has already learned to lie, to pacify us.