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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2022 0:49:52 GMT -5
I am not debating the fact that each individual has a viewpoint. This doesn't mean that two windows cannot be showing the same viewpoint. How the hell can 1000 engineers cooperate to build a rocket to send a man to the moon if no two windows see the same view?
Here again, there is this belief that the spiritual viewpoint is unique and personal. I must reject this as unreasonable. It creates a special class of human beings who have access to clarity. In the west, it is the elites separate from the masses; in India, it breeds the caste system. There is some commonality but each one of those 1000 engineers does not have exactly the same view of the rocket. 100 of them are looking at their own computer screens another 20 are examining the engine 5 more are currently looking at the nose cone. You get the idea. And they don't all have the same wife.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2022 0:52:51 GMT -5
if Consciousness is expressing itself through separate individuals then those individuals seem to have access to these other expressions of individuality as reflections. Yes, I get that. But the separation is the problem. Selfishness - to each is own - is causing wars and suffering. Is Gopal justifying a fractious human existence as inevitable? Everything we do is for selfish reasons. How about the altruistic gesture of giving money to a beggar? Is that not selfish? Well it is. It's makes you feel good. You're doing it for your own self.
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Post by laughter on Aug 21, 2022 5:25:08 GMT -5
There is one Consciousness which is looking at many perception simultaneously, each perceiving view point is each individual, one such view point is I, another such view point is you . That makes perfect sense to me. And that's what leads to the endless mind spin, because what you, gopal, sree and the 'pilgrim are really interested in, doesn't and can never make sense.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2022 5:29:25 GMT -5
That makes perfect sense to me. And that's what leads to the endless mind spin, because what you, gopal, sree and the 'pilgrim are really interested in, doesn't and can never make sense. yeah sure. It just makes sense on a Netflix kind of level. 😀 It's just entertainment.
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Post by laughter on Aug 21, 2022 6:02:25 GMT -5
I am not debating the fact that each individual has a viewpoint. This doesn't mean that two windows cannot be showing the same viewpoint. How the hell can 1000 engineers cooperate to build a rocket to send a man to the moon if no two windows see the same view?
Here again, there is this belief that the spiritual viewpoint is unique and personal. I must reject this as unreasonable. It creates a special class of human beings who have access to clarity. In the west, it is the elites separate from the masses; in India, it breeds the caste system. Intellect will never make sense of it. There is only THIS, and yet, every individual is entirely unique. No two pairs of eyes ever see exactly the same Moon at the same time. It is only the intellectual process of trying to make sense of it that creates any sort of contradiction between the two, even if you invoke suffering.
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Post by laughter on Aug 21, 2022 6:02:53 GMT -5
And that's what leads to the endless mind spin, because what you, gopal, sree and the 'pilgrim are really interested in, doesn't and can never make sense. yeah sure. It just makes sense on a Netflix kind of level. 😀 It's just entertainment. (** shakes head sadly **)
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Post by Reefs on Aug 21, 2022 6:05:30 GMT -5
That makes perfect sense to me. And that's what leads to the endless mind spin, because what you, gopal, sree and the 'pilgrim are really interested in, doesn't and can never make sense. Andrew called it a mind virus.
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Post by laughter on Aug 21, 2022 6:08:08 GMT -5
And that's what leads to the endless mind spin, because what you, gopal, sree and the 'pilgrim are really interested in, doesn't and can never make sense. yeah sure. It just makes sense on a Netflix kind of level. 😀 It's just entertainment. (** shakes head sadly **)
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Post by laughter on Aug 21, 2022 6:09:03 GMT -5
And that's what leads to the endless mind spin, because what you, gopal, sree and the 'pilgrim are really interested in, doesn't and can never make sense. Andrew called it a mind virus. Noone ever more adamant about healthy atmosphere than an ex-smoker.
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Post by andrew on Aug 21, 2022 6:10:07 GMT -5
What about the viewpoint that's you when it reaches clarity? Can you share that viewpoint with me? I know words are limited. What people will be removed from your life? There is one Consciousness which is looking at many perception simultaneously, each perceiving view point is each individual, one such view point is I, another such view point is you . Speak for yourself I am not a viewpoint. I am Consciousness.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2022 6:13:25 GMT -5
There is one Consciousness which is looking at many perception simultaneously, each perceiving view point is each individual, one such view point is I, another such view point is you . Speak for yourself I am not a viewpoint. I am Consciousness. That's great news dude!
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Post by andrew on Aug 21, 2022 6:28:20 GMT -5
Speak for yourself I am not a viewpoint. I am Consciousness. That's great news dude! Is it? Which bit?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2022 7:25:03 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2022 7:31:40 GMT -5
And that's what leads to the endless mind spin, because what you, gopal, sree and the 'pilgrim are really interested in, doesn't and can never make sense. yeah sure. It just makes sense on a Netflix kind of level. 😀 It's just entertainment. Yes
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Post by Reefs on Aug 21, 2022 8:53:16 GMT -5
Andrew called it a mind virus. Noone ever more adamant about healthy atmosphere than an ex-smoker. Andrew used to be a concept-ciggy chain smoker.
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