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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2022 13:16:11 GMT -5
It reaches the clarity but not with our effort. It reorganizes the universe once it reaches the clarity. Clarity would removes certain people from your life and bring people those who are aligned with your new found truth. I am the Infinite looking through a window, you said. Through that window, I see the Block Universe. Is this Block Universe reorganized once it reaches the clarity? The window itself is the view point and that's me. Another view point could be you but I can't know.
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Post by sree on Aug 20, 2022 13:38:06 GMT -5
I am the Infinite looking through a window, you said. Through that window, I see the Block Universe. Is this Block Universe reorganized once it reaches the clarity? The window itself is the view point and that's me. Another view point could be you but I can't know. What about the viewpoint that's you when it reaches clarity? Can you share that viewpoint with me? I know words are limited. What people will be removed from your life?
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Post by sree on Aug 20, 2022 19:11:46 GMT -5
You must have intimations of this when performing poojah. Consciousness is conditioned by science and it is difficult to get clarity. We are trapped in the Block Universe in which we live to earn a living and feed the body, the family.
Tonight, you will have dinner with me. I will cook us a thali dinner. No wine. I will serve us mango lassi. And while we eat, Ravi Shankar will play his sitar for us on my Bose Soundtouch sound system.
It reaches the clarity but not with our effort. It reorganizes the universe once it reaches the clarity. Clarity would removes certain people from your life and bring people those who are aligned with your new found truth. The people removed from my life when I reached clarity were boatmen: all beings in the Block Universe. Dinner time here, Gopal. 5.30 am in India. Thali meal looks good. Your body may be asleep, but your spirit is here. Thank you for coming. Ravi Shankar is magnificient. Good spiritual entertainment for our evening.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2022 21:16:58 GMT -5
The window itself is the view point and that's me. Another view point could be you but I can't know. What about the viewpoint that's you when it reaches clarity? Can you share that viewpoint with me? I know words are limited. What people will be removed from your life? There is one Consciousness which is looking at many perception simultaneously, each perceiving view point is each individual, one such view point is I, another such view point is you .
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Post by sree on Aug 20, 2022 22:03:29 GMT -5
What about the viewpoint that's you when it reaches clarity? Can you share that viewpoint with me? I know words are limited. What people will be removed from your life? There is one Consciousness which is looking at many perception simultaneously, each perceiving view point is each individual, one such view point is I, another such view point is you . I understand what you are saying. My viewpoint is the Block Universe. What is your viewpoint when it reaches clarity?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2022 22:07:23 GMT -5
There is one Consciousness which is looking at many perception simultaneously, each perceiving view point is each individual, one such view point is I, another such view point is you . I understand what you are saying. My viewpoint is the Block Universe. What is your viewpoint when it reaches clarity? I don't think you are paying any attention to what I write. Let wind up our conversation here. Have a nice day.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2022 22:16:52 GMT -5
What about the viewpoint that's you when it reaches clarity? Can you share that viewpoint with me? I know words are limited. What people will be removed from your life? There is one Consciousness which is looking at many perception simultaneously, each perceiving view point is each individual, one such view point is I, another such view point is you . That makes perfect sense to me.
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Post by sree on Aug 20, 2022 22:22:47 GMT -5
There is one Consciousness which is looking at many perception simultaneously, each perceiving view point is each individual, one such view point is I, another such view point is you . That makes perfect sense to me. It doesn't make sense to me at all. Are you saying that each has a viewpoint and no two are the same? How do you relate with your wife?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2022 22:31:58 GMT -5
That makes perfect sense to me. It doesn't make sense to me at all. Are you saying that each has a viewpoint and no two are the same? How do you relate with your wife? if Consciousness is expressing itself through separate individuals then those individuals seem to have access to these other expressions of individuality as reflections.
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Post by sree on Aug 20, 2022 22:36:55 GMT -5
It doesn't make sense to me at all. Are you saying that each has a viewpoint and no two are the same? How do you relate with your wife? if Consciousness is expressing itself through separate individuals then those individuals seem to have access to these other expressions of individuality as reflections. Yes, I get that. But the separation is the problem. Selfishness - to each is own - is causing wars and suffering. Is Gopal justifying a fractious human existence as inevitable?
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Post by sree on Aug 20, 2022 22:45:32 GMT -5
Can you guys think faster? It's getting late here.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2022 22:50:31 GMT -5
There is one Consciousness which is looking at many perception simultaneously, each perceiving view point is each individual, one such view point is I, another such view point is you . That makes perfect sense to me. Yes
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2022 22:57:23 GMT -5
It doesn't make sense to me at all. Are you saying that each has a viewpoint and no two are the same? How do you relate with your wife? if Consciousness is expressing itself through separate individuals then those individuals seem to have access to these other expressions of individuality as reflections. Yes
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Post by sree on Aug 20, 2022 23:05:07 GMT -5
That makes perfect sense to me. Yes I am not debating the fact that each individual has a viewpoint. This doesn't mean that two windows cannot be showing the same viewpoint. How the hell can 1000 engineers cooperate to build a rocket to send a man to the moon if no two windows see the same view?
Here again, there is this belief that the spiritual viewpoint is unique and personal. I must reject this as unreasonable. It creates a special class of human beings who have access to clarity. In the west, it is the elites separate from the masses; in India, it breeds the caste system.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2022 23:58:04 GMT -5
I am not debating the fact that each individual has a viewpoint. This doesn't mean that two windows cannot be showing the same viewpoint. How the hell can 1000 engineers cooperate to build a rocket to send a man to the moon if no two windows see the same view?
Here again, there is this belief that the spiritual viewpoint is unique and personal. I must reject this as unreasonable. It creates a special class of human beings who have access to clarity. In the west, it is the elites separate from the masses; in India, it breeds the caste system. Individual is not having any view point. Individual IS the viewpoint.
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