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Post by laughter on Aug 18, 2022 3:57:00 GMT -5
oh, that's a joke, you know. I expected to laugh at the guy before I played the vid. I didn't do that, even though it was really fun to watch. Animals have certain intuitions that escape us. Sometimes it really is like they can tell the future, like when a storm is coming. I'm sure the scientists think they know why. The guy's connection to the parrot is quite apparent, and rather poignant. That astrology is not true at all. They simply utter the word. I know of them. Yes, I see it much the same way, in that I wouldn't invest much in the guidance they'd give.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2022 3:58:12 GMT -5
That astrology is not true at all. They simply utter the word. I know of them. Yes, I see it much the same way, in that I wouldn't invest much in the guidance they'd give. These guys are doing it only for money.
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Post by laughter on Aug 18, 2022 4:00:18 GMT -5
Yes, I see it much the same way, in that I wouldn't invest much in the guidance they'd give. These guys are doing it only for money. In the US we have fortune tellers, people who use Tarrot cards, other similar devices.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2022 4:13:57 GMT -5
These guys are doing it only for money. In the US we have fortune tellers, people who use Tarrot cards, other similar devices. Oh okay.
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Post by laughter on Aug 18, 2022 4:26:45 GMT -5
In the US we have fortune tellers, people who use Tarrot cards, other similar devices. Oh okay. I get the impression that sometimes, some of the people who use this sort of stuff to make money actually believe there is something going on at the core of it that can let them see the future. When I was a child I didn't know to be cynical about it. I learned that. But that was then, and this is now. What I've told andy in the past is that the absence of skepticism doesn't have to come with gullibility.
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Post by sree on Aug 18, 2022 11:10:11 GMT -5
That astrology is not true at all. They simply utter the word. I know of them. Yes, I see it much the same way, in that I wouldn't invest much in the guidance they'd give. You are forgetting the parrot. I don't think it is doing it for the money and it never utters a word. Gopal is dismissing the whole thing because it is commonplace in India. When it is commonplace, we don't look anymore. We become inattentive.
Krishnamurti said that attention is timeless. "How do you look, at the tree, at your wife?" he asked.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2022 11:15:24 GMT -5
Yes, I see it much the same way, in that I wouldn't invest much in the guidance they'd give. You are forgetting the parrot. I don't think it is doing it for the money and it never utters a word. Gopal is dismissing the whole thing because it is commonplace in India. When it is commonplace, we don't look anymore. We become inattentive.
Krishnamurti said that attention is timeless. "How do you look, at the tree, at your wife?" he asked.
I dismiss it because those are not correct prediction.
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Post by sree on Aug 18, 2022 11:40:18 GMT -5
You are forgetting the parrot. I don't think it is doing it for the money and it never utters a word. Gopal is dismissing the whole thing because it is commonplace in India. When it is commonplace, we don't look anymore. We become inattentive.
Krishnamurti said that attention is timeless. "How do you look, at the tree, at your wife?" he asked.
I dismiss it because those are not correct prediction. You dismissed the whole Nadi question I posed to you. I read your discussion with Reefs at the beginning of this thread and am of the opinion that you were right about Consciousness and Reefs was wrong. It was correct of you to withdraw but Reefs kept going after you accusing you of bad logic. There was nothing wrong with your logic. Western mind cannot grasp Eastern thought. A tea cup cannot take in the ocean. But when the tea cup is supreme, the ocean must withdraw. No blame (as the I Ching would say).
However, I have not investigated the Infinite with you yet. Your ignoring of my Nadi question is not an agreement to disagree. Mine is a western mind also but we have yet to engage in spiritual discourse. I have broken out of the western mindset. I want to find out if you have broken free of the eastern one.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2022 11:46:37 GMT -5
I dismiss it because those are not correct prediction. You dismissed the whole Nadi question I posed to you. I read your discussion with Reefs at the beginning of this thread and am of the opinion that you were right about Consciousness and Reefs was wrong. It was correct of you to withdraw but Reefs kept going after you accusing you of bad logic. There was nothing wrong with your logic. Western mind cannot grasp Eastern thought. A tea cup cannot take in the ocean. But when the tea cup is supreme, the ocean must withdraw. No blame (as the I Ching would say).
However, I have not investigated the Infinite with you yet. Your ignoring of my Nadi question is not an agreement to disagree. Mine is a western mind also but we have yet to engage in spiritual discourse. I have broken out of the western mindset. I want to find out if you have broken free of the eastern one.
I have shown some interest in Nadi Astrology. Those are palm leafs in which sage Agasthiya has written our life details. You could go there and give your finger print and read out yours and it will be correct . Nothing goes wrong. There is something they will read it out at first which is called pothu kandam, every single detail they would read it out stand out to be correct. I myself have gone there personally and verified it.
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Aug 18, 2022 12:34:23 GMT -5
You dismissed the whole Nadi question I posed to you. I read your discussion with Reefs at the beginning of this thread and am of the opinion that you were right about Consciousness and Reefs was wrong. It was correct of you to withdraw but Reefs kept going after you accusing you of bad logic. There was nothing wrong with your logic. Western mind cannot grasp Eastern thought. A tea cup cannot take in the ocean. But when the tea cup is supreme, the ocean must withdraw. No blame (as the I Ching would say). However, I have not investigated the Infinite with you yet. Your ignoring of my Nadi question is not an agreement to disagree. Mine is a western mind also but we have yet to engage in spiritual discourse. I have broken out of the western mindset. I want to find out if you have broken free of the eastern one.
I have shown some interest in Nadi Astrology. Those are palm leafs in which sage Agasthiya has written our life details. You could go there and give your finger print and read out yours and it will be correct . Nothing goes wrong. There is something they will read it out at first which is called pothu kandam, every single detail they would read it out stand out to be correct. I myself have gone there personally and verified it. This proves Einstein was right. He believed we live in a Block universe.
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Aug 18, 2022 12:39:10 GMT -5
I dismiss it because those are not correct prediction. You dismissed the whole Nadi question I posed to you. I read your discussion with Reefs at the beginning of this thread and am of the opinion that you were right about Consciousness and Reefs was wrong. It was correct of you to withdraw but Reefs kept going after you accusing you of bad logic. There was nothing wrong with your logic. Western mind cannot grasp Eastern thought. A tea cup cannot take in the ocean. But when the tea cup is supreme, the ocean must withdraw. No blame (as the I Ching would say). However, I have not investigated the Infinite with you yet. Your ignoring of my Nadi question is not an agreement to disagree. Mine is a western mind also but we have yet to engage in spiritual discourse. I have broken out of the western mindset. I want to find out if you have broken free of the eastern one.
Frog in a well, Chuang Tzu story. china-underground.com/2019/08/20/a-frog-in-a-well-cannot-conceive-of-the-ocean-zhuangzi/
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2022 12:45:51 GMT -5
I have shown some interest in Nadi Astrology. Those are palm leafs in which sage Agasthiya has written our life details. You could go there and give your finger print and read out yours and it will be correct . Nothing goes wrong. There is something they will read it out at first which is called pothu kandam, every single detail they would read it out stand out to be correct. I myself have gone there personally and verified it. This proves Einstein was right. He believed we live in a Block universe. What is block universe ?
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Post by sree on Aug 18, 2022 13:13:27 GMT -5
You dismissed the whole Nadi question I posed to you. I read your discussion with Reefs at the beginning of this thread and am of the opinion that you were right about Consciousness and Reefs was wrong. It was correct of you to withdraw but Reefs kept going after you accusing you of bad logic. There was nothing wrong with your logic. Western mind cannot grasp Eastern thought. A tea cup cannot take in the ocean. But when the tea cup is supreme, the ocean must withdraw. No blame (as the I Ching would say).
However, I have not investigated the Infinite with you yet. Your ignoring of my Nadi question is not an agreement to disagree. Mine is a western mind also but we have yet to engage in spiritual discourse. I have broken out of the western mindset. I want to find out if you have broken free of the eastern one.
I have shown some interest in Nadi Astrology. Those are palm leafs in which sage Agasthiya has written our life details. You could go there and give your finger print and read out yours and it will be correct . Nothing goes wrong. There is something they will read it out at first which is called pothu kandam, every single detail they would read it out stand out to be correct. I myself have gone there personally and verified it. I think you are a native of Tamil Nadu and the spirituality you espouse is related to Hinduism. I don't think it is a "religion" as westerners understand the term. How would you regard your stance on spirituality?
I saw a temple statue of an elephant in Mylapore. It has four hands: one holding a lotus; another, a rope; the third, a hatchet, and in the fourth hand, laddus. How would you perceive Lord Ganesh?
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Post by sree on Aug 18, 2022 13:23:01 GMT -5
You dismissed the whole Nadi question I posed to you. I read your discussion with Reefs at the beginning of this thread and am of the opinion that you were right about Consciousness and Reefs was wrong. It was correct of you to withdraw but Reefs kept going after you accusing you of bad logic. There was nothing wrong with your logic. Western mind cannot grasp Eastern thought. A tea cup cannot take in the ocean. But when the tea cup is supreme, the ocean must withdraw. No blame (as the I Ching would say). However, I have not investigated the Infinite with you yet. Your ignoring of my Nadi question is not an agreement to disagree. Mine is a western mind also but we have yet to engage in spiritual discourse. I have broken out of the western mindset. I want to find out if you have broken free of the eastern one.
Frog in a well, Chuang Tzu story. china-underground.com/2019/08/20/a-frog-in-a-well-cannot-conceive-of-the-ocean-zhuangzi/I am not Chuangtze. I am here and those are my words. Krishnamurti always got mad with people equating what he said with utterances of the Buddha.
What I meant was the western mind, driven by the intellect, cannot process the pointing of intelligence.
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Post by laughter on Aug 18, 2022 13:35:14 GMT -5
I have shown some interest in Nadi Astrology. Those are palm leafs in which sage Agasthiya has written our life details. You could go there and give your finger print and read out yours and it will be correct . Nothing goes wrong. There is something they will read it out at first which is called pothu kandam, every single detail they would read it out stand out to be correct. I myself have gone there personally and verified it. This proves Einstein was right. He believed we live in a Block universe. No. Reality is neither predetermined nor random. Rather, it is beyond all notions about it. Any box of a theory you can imagine is always going to be too small. The same goes for the mental giants. That's why they always wind up out at the edge of reason.
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