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Post by laughter on Aug 18, 2022 13:40:31 GMT -5
This proves Einstein was right. He believed we live in a Block universe. What is block universe ? Einstein believed in an eternal Universe with no beginning and no end. General Relativity reflects this in that the equations that define it work the same if you run time either backward or forward. The "Block Universe" is 4D. It refers to our 3D spatial Universe projected in both directions of time out to infinity, with the assumption that all of reality exists all at once.
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Post by sree on Aug 18, 2022 14:51:35 GMT -5
This proves Einstein was right. He believed we live in a Block universe. No. Reality is neither predetermined nor random. Rather, it is beyond all notions about it. Any box of a theory you can imagine is always going to be too small. The same goes for the mental giants. That's why they always wind up out at the edge of reason.Reality is formed by theory which is created by thought, the flow of reason.
Krishnamurti put it in simple layman terms: You (i.e. the flow of reason) are the world (reality)
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Post by sree on Aug 18, 2022 14:55:50 GMT -5
This proves Einstein was right. He believed we live in a Block universe. What is block universe ? Gopal, I found this for you.
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Aug 18, 2022 15:52:59 GMT -5
This proves Einstein was right. He believed we live in a Block universe. What is block universe ? It is like a film, the whole events of the film already exist. Visualize a block, a cube. Past future, present and future do not exist. The past still exists in the block, the future exists in the block. Everything everywhere exists all at once, in the block. It fits pretty well with your view of reality. It actually fits pretty well with LOA even, but it's the ~personal~ view that changes to fit what's already in the block. ~Personal~ LOA isn't changing anything in reality, in a block universe. Einstein didn't have proof, he had a sense of the universe being a block universe, maybe even an intuition.
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Aug 18, 2022 15:56:15 GMT -5
I am not Chuangtze. I am here and those are my words. Krishnamurti always got mad with people equating what he said with utterances of the Buddha. What I meant was the western mind, driven by the intellect, cannot process the pointing of intelligence. More than one person can see truth. Chuang Tzu was awesome. I didn't mean to indicate you got it from Chuang Tzu. sdp has no original thoughts. Somebody has already been there.
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Aug 18, 2022 16:06:08 GMT -5
This proves Einstein was right. He believed we live in a Block universe. No. Reality is neither predetermined nor random. Rather, it is beyond all notions about it. Any box of a theory you can imagine is always going to be too small. The same goes for the mental giants. That's why they always wind up out at the edge of reason. I agree, ultimately. But some things are predictable. Most everything future, is probable. But nothing in the future is absolute. When we approach a crossroads, most of the time we don't have a choice which road to take, probabilities are limited. But choices are possible. And sometimes, we don't even know we have reached a crossroads, until we have passed it.
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Post by laughter on Aug 18, 2022 17:15:07 GMT -5
No. Reality is neither predetermined nor random. Rather, it is beyond all notions about it. Any box of a theory you can imagine is always going to be too small. The same goes for the mental giants. That's why they always wind up out at the edge of reason. I agree, ultimately. But some things are predictable. Most everything future, is probable. But nothing in the future is absolute. When we approach a crossroads, most of the time we don't have a choice which road to take, probabilities are limited. But choices are possible. And sometimes, we don't even know we have reached a crossroads, until we have passed it. Ok, so Al wasn't right. Aces.
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Aug 18, 2022 17:25:58 GMT -5
I agree, ultimately. But some things are predictable. Most everything future, is probable. But nothing in the future is absolute. When we approach a crossroads, most of the time we don't have a choice which road to take, probabilities are limited. But choices are possible. And sometimes, we don't even know we have reached a crossroads, until we have passed it. Ok, so Al wasn't right. Aces. I don't think so. But in the very moment, things happen in the only way they can happen. For most people most of the time, that extends into five minutes, ten or more. Carlos Castaneda's Don Juan had term, one cubic centimeter of chance (meaning a point of decision), I never forgot that.
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Post by lolly on Aug 19, 2022 0:57:08 GMT -5
Gopal, I found this for you.
Yes, the block universe is the inevitable ultimate outcome of causality, but I think science has surpassed it with such things as non-locality, entanglement etc... you know, the stuff Einstein wasn't all that keen on.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2022 2:20:03 GMT -5
I have shown some interest in Nadi Astrology. Those are palm leafs in which sage Agasthiya has written our life details. You could go there and give your finger print and read out yours and it will be correct . Nothing goes wrong. There is something they will read it out at first which is called pothu kandam, every single detail they would read it out stand out to be correct. I myself have gone there personally and verified it. I think you are a native of Tamil Nadu and the spirituality you espouse is related to Hinduism. I don't think it is a "religion" as westerners understand the term. How would you regard your stance on spirituality?
Yes, I am from TamilNadu and raised as Hindu. But my religion expresses the personal God which can easily be falsified. Lots of stories were built up over the years. There are many denomination in Christianity and it's because of the understanding issue from the same Book called Bible. But In Hinduism, even books are different. For the people who pray to Lord vishnu has their own book, like for siva.
Ganesh? That's all stories. He is the first son of Lord Shiva and In short, Lord Shiva chopped off his head due to his disobedience. And when Parvathi came to know about that incident, she raged and started destroying the world. And to console her anger, an elephant head was cut off and fit in his head and came alive. And these are all silly concocted stories.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2022 2:22:23 GMT -5
Einstein believed in an eternal Universe with no beginning and no end. General Relativity reflects this in that the equations that define it work the same if you run time either backward or forward. The "Block Universe" is 4D. It refers to our 3D spatial Universe projected in both directions of time out to infinity, with the assumption that all of reality exists all at once. Interesting. It's similar to Jane Roberts(Famously knows as Seth) parallel universe.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2022 2:23:39 GMT -5
Gopal, I found this for you.
Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2022 2:24:27 GMT -5
It is like a film, the whole events of the film already exist. Visualize a block, a cube. Past future, present and future do not exist. The past still exists in the block, the future exists in the block. Everything everywhere exists all at once, in the block. It fits pretty well with your view of reality. It actually fits pretty well with LOA even, but it's the ~personal~ view that changes to fit what's already in the block. ~Personal~ LOA isn't changing anything in reality, in a block universe. Einstein didn't have proof, he had a sense of the universe being a block universe, maybe even an intuition. Yeah, get it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2022 2:25:22 GMT -5
This proves Einstein was right. He believed we live in a Block universe. No. Reality is neither predetermined nor random. Rather, it is beyond all notions about it. Any box of a theory you can imagine is always going to be too small. The same goes for the mental giants. That's why they always wind up out at the edge of reason. This could be true if you are a single individual. But what if you are multiple individuals? Then your next step is somehow predestined.
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Post by sree on Aug 19, 2022 9:51:07 GMT -5
I think you are a native of Tamil Nadu and the spirituality you espouse is related to Hinduism. I don't think it is a "religion" as westerners understand the term. How would you regard your stance on spirituality?
Yes, I am from TamilNadu and raised as Hindu. But my religion expresses the personal God which can easily be falsified. Lots of stories were built up over the years. There are many denomination in Christianity and it's because of the understanding issue from the same Book called Bible. But In Hinduism, even books are different. For the people who pray to Lord vishnu has their own book, like for siva.
Falsified by whom? Richard Dawkins? He is the high priest of atheism which is the godless religion of the western mind. It is based on the doctrines of science. The Block Universe is one of its fundamental superstition. It is similar to a Ganesh story that arose from the understanding issue. Richard Dawkins can make fun of Lord Ganesh but he will not be able to deal with Twat Tam Asi.
The western mind cannot grasp the teaching in the Upanishads.
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