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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 4:07:00 GMT -5
That's the wonderful question you asked. Yes, why should I conclude we create our experience just because we are the witnesses of it? This require the direct seeing of how universe unfolds. But knowing this one completely not in our hand. It has to be revealed. I replied regarding the same to Reefs in my last reply. Oh ok We can know universe start to reorganize itself when we see through the certain illusion, it moves away certain individuals from our life experience who were actually expressing the particular inner pattern so far.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 4:07:33 GMT -5
Exactly, well said. It wouldn't happen like that. If someone tries to accept anything which comes on his way,that's the practice of acceptance, it's not really an acceptance. Soon story would be unfolded from the lap of infinite to perform the accepting act! ZD doesn't understand what acceptance is. It is to go back to the source, nothing more. It is not about trying to accept some situation in your life. I said it's easy to do as a practice but that doesn't mean it's easy to get results. It may take some time. Going back to the source is action.
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Post by satchitananda on Jan 13, 2020 4:12:56 GMT -5
ZD doesn't understand what acceptance is. It is to go back to the source, nothing more. It is not about trying to accept some situation in your life. I said it's easy to do as a practice but that doesn't mean it's easy to get results. It may take some time. Going back to the source is action. Those who see action in inaction and inaction in action are truly wise amongst humans. Although performing all kinds of actions, they are yogis and masters of all their actions. Bhagavad Gita Chapter 4, Verse 18
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 4:31:37 GMT -5
And what happens when the fighting stops? S'alright, it's inevitable that it will stop and then your perception about what your 'inner' really is can change.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 4:33:34 GMT -5
And what happens when the fighting stops? That would be the end of the Gopal-person. Which would be the end of the Gopal-person world. Which has to be avoided at all costs.Hmmm.. don't know. It might all come down to the 'stamping issue' again.
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Post by andrew on Jan 13, 2020 10:19:24 GMT -5
''cerebrate'', ''descry'', ''abaft''..... My own dictionary is getting a workout! I particularly enjoyed this... ''I concur that this question doesn't come to a mundane man'' I searched MR Google for an alternate definition of abaft to no avail. His dictionary may have led him a bit abeam on that one.
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Post by andrew on Jan 13, 2020 10:26:33 GMT -5
if she exists, where is she when you are in the office? She must be an another view point so she can't exist somewhere in the world, world is appearing to her. okay, so if you are a viewpoint and she is a viewpoint, do those 2 viewpoints connect or relate at all? (I'm not asking about Gopal's relationship to daughter, I'm asking about the viewpoints)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 19:32:43 GMT -5
She must be an another view point so she can't exist somewhere in the world, world is appearing to her. okay, so if you are a viewpoint and she is a viewpoint, do those 2 viewpoints connect or relate at all? (I'm not asking about Gopal's relationship to daughter, I'm asking about the viewpoints) Two view points but one perceiver, If so,there is no connect.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 23:20:33 GMT -5
Going back to the source is action. Those who see action in inaction and inaction in action are truly wise amongst humans. Although performing all kinds of actions, they are yogis and masters of all their actions. Bhagavad Gita Chapter 4, Verse 18 My knowledge doesn't come from book.
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Post by satchitananda on Jan 13, 2020 23:50:28 GMT -5
Those who see action in inaction and inaction in action are truly wise amongst humans. Although performing all kinds of actions, they are yogis and masters of all their actions. Bhagavad Gita Chapter 4, Verse 18 My knowledge doesn't come from book. You have read the Bible book already and quote from it so now read this book.
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Post by andrew on Jan 14, 2020 4:48:15 GMT -5
okay, so if you are a viewpoint and she is a viewpoint, do those 2 viewpoints connect or relate at all? (I'm not asking about Gopal's relationship to daughter, I'm asking about the viewpoints) Two view points but one perceiver, If so,there is no connect.yes, okay.
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Post by Reefs on Jan 14, 2020 9:35:21 GMT -5
Didn't you just say that you and Enigma are the only chosen ones who can play that game? Then that makes two already. Something wrong with your math here.
I don't know whether Enigma is real or not. Let us suppose Enigma is real and he is the another view point of Consciousness. But still it doesn't change the truth that I create my own world with my illusions. He creates his world with his illusions. If he comes in my life, then somehow from inner we need each other, for an instance we meet here in this forum is the best example. Exactly. According to your theory, speculation. In reality, however, the possibility that he might not be real doesn't even occur to you. A totally useless realization.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 8:46:01 GMT -5
My knowledge doesn't come from book. You have read the Bible book already and quote from it so now read this book. Yes, I read many Books and Bible is one of the interesting book that I ever read because it's very complex to understand. But that knowledge is not useful to my life experience. Direct seeing would change the experience nothing else.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 8:52:53 GMT -5
Two view points but one perceiver, If so,there is no connect.yes, okay. I was expecting a next question from you as to how one single perceiver can have two view point? Infact, I don't know whether other view point is real but I am surmising that other view point is real. So I may create an answer out of logic. The possibility could be,
Assume one perceiver is perceiving from Perception 1.
Perception1=Gopal Perception2=Andrew Perception3=Enigma Perception4=Figgles Perception5=Laughter Perception6=Gopal Perception7=Andrew Perception8=Enigma Perception9=Figgles Perception10=Laughter - - - - - - -
So when the perception happens so fast in which it is projecting individual, Gopal Individual is projected by perceiving Perception1,Perception6,Perception11..
This is only way I can think of If one perceiver has multiple view point. But I don't know whether other view point exist so I don't put too much attention here.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 8:57:31 GMT -5
I don't know whether Enigma is real or not. Let us suppose Enigma is real and he is the another view point of Consciousness. But still it doesn't change the truth that I create my own world with my illusions. He creates his world with his illusions. If he comes in my life, then somehow from inner we need each other, for an instance we meet here in this forum is the best example. Exactly. According to your theory, speculation. In reality, however, the possibility that he might not be real doesn't even occur to you. A totally useless realization. We are actually not talking about whether other individual is real.I am saying It really doesn't matter whether Enigma exist or not. But my reality is confirming my belief, If I assume other people are real and act for other's benefit, then I am not only loosing the ability to create my reality, I am just creating the reality out of illusion and will continue to create nonsense in my life in which I continue to place responsibility on others,but in contrast, others have zero power over what I create. There is no co-creation happens here as you assume, everything moves as one.
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