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Post by zendancer on May 19, 2024 10:27:37 GMT -5
I'm currently in Portugal, so a bit out of touch, but the basic approach is to take away name and form from people attached to name and form, and to take away emptiness from people who are attached to emptiness. If all boundaries are cognitive illusions, what can we say about that which has no boundaries? All we can do is point and say, "Take a look for yourself." In Portugal ND is "não-dualidade." FWIW, Lisbon (Lisboa) is an amazing city. Today we head to Cascais for five days. Lots of fun! Foi divertido. I spent three weeks studying Portuguese only to find out that European Portuguese is vastly different than Brazilian Portuguese, which is what all of the language courses teach. Haha. I had to start all over. Portugues e' uma lingua dificil (because it is accented and many syllables are simply skipped over or omitted altogether.) Yup, I hear you. I've been reading "I Am That" again recently and I marvel at the seeming contradictions of NM when talking to various questioners' but really there is no contradiction at all. He simply meets everyone where they are at. One of the sweetest exchanges I read recently was with a questioner whose mind was simple, clear and child-like. O meu lado paterno da família era dos Açores. Cresci a comer muita sopa de couve e linguica :-) Um dia destes vou falar-vos do meu bisavô, que foi raptado por piratas aos 14 anos, mas que depois escapou. Portugal parece-me lindo. Estou a usar um tradutor que traduz para português europeu que se encontra aqui. www.deepl.com/translatorWow! You'll have to share that story with us when you can. I never realized that the Azores are part of Portugal, nor did I realize how many countries speak Portuguese--usually the Brazilian variety. Makes sense. 200 million Brazilians and only 10 million E. Portuguese. We had an incredible personal guide in Lisbon who took us off the beaten path and told us so many interesting things that the average tourist would probably never hear. I love the rhinoceros story that explains why all of the sidewalks are tiled. Too funny. I'm also in love with the pasteis de nata custard cakes! Amazing. He took us to a bakery that makes 20,000/day, and they were extraordinary, especially with cinammon and still hot out of the oven. When I read your post, I could understand about half of it, but there were several words beyond my ken. Eu so sei algumas palavaras em Portugues! ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png)
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Post by justlikeyou on May 19, 2024 19:30:07 GMT -5
Yup, I hear you. I've been reading "I Am That" again recently and I marvel at the seeming contradictions of NM when talking to various questioners' but really there is no contradiction at all. He simply meets everyone where they are at. One of the sweetest exchanges I read recently was with a questioner whose mind was simple, clear and child-like. O meu lado paterno da família era dos Açores. Cresci a comer muita sopa de couve e linguica :-) Um dia destes vou falar-vos do meu bisavô, que foi raptado por piratas aos 14 anos, mas que depois escapou. Portugal parece-me lindo. Estou a usar um tradutor que traduz para português europeu que se encontra aqui. www.deepl.com/translatorWow! You'll have to share that story with us when you can. I never realized that the Azores are part of Portugal, nor did I realize how many countries speak Portuguese--usually the Brazilian variety. Makes sense. 200 million Brazilians and only 10 million E. Portuguese. We had an incredible personal guide in Lisbon who took us off the beaten path and told us so many interesting things that the average tourist would probably never hear. I love the rhinoceros story that explains why all of the sidewalks are tiled. Too funny. I'm also in love with the pasteis de nata custard cakes! Amazing. He took us to a bakery that makes 20,000/day, and they were extraordinary, especially with cinammon and still hot out of the oven. When I read your post, I could understand about half of it, but there were several words beyond my ken. Eu so sei algumas palavaras em Portugues! ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png)
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Post by justlikeyou on May 19, 2024 20:05:43 GMT -5
Yup, I hear you. I've been reading "I Am That" again recently and I marvel at the seeming contradictions of NM when talking to various questioners' but really there is no contradiction at all. He simply meets everyone where they are at. One of the sweetest exchanges I read recently was with a questioner whose mind was simple, clear and child-like. O meu lado paterno da família era dos Açores. Cresci a comer muita sopa de couve e linguica :-) Um dia destes vou falar-vos do meu bisavô, que foi raptado por piratas aos 14 anos, mas que depois escapou. Portugal parece-me lindo. Estou a usar um tradutor que traduz para português europeu que se encontra aqui. www.deepl.com/translatorWow! You'll have to share that story with us when you can. I never realized that the Azores are part of Portugal, nor did I realize how many countries speak Portuguese--usually the Brazilian variety. Makes sense. 200 million Brazilians and only 10 million E. Portuguese. We had an incredible personal guide in Lisbon who took us off the beaten path and told us so many interesting things that the average tourist would probably never hear. I love the rhinoceros story that explains why all of the sidewalks are tiled. Too funny. I'm also in love with the pasteis de nata custard cakes! Amazing. He took us to a bakery that makes 20,000/day, and they were extraordinary, especially with cinammon and still hot out of the oven. When I read your post, I could understand about half of it, but there were several words beyond my ken. Eu so sei algumas palavaras em Portugues! ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) It was in the early 1890s when my great-grandfather, Joseph Lopes, 14, was shanghaied (kidnapped) by the nasty crew of a whaling ship. It was almost two years later when he and his friend found a watch guard asleep and opportunity to slip off the ship and swim to shore in Virginia. That's as much of it that I know. He didn't speak much and when he did it was mostly in Portuguese. Other than playing checkers with him, and him beating me every single time, there wasn't much more real interaction. He died when I was 12. Those pastries sound wonderful. I grew up in a Portuguese/Italian American culture. Gloucester, MA is the oldest fishing port in the US. Some of my favorites treats were at Easter - Portuguese Sweet Bread, some with hard boiled eggs inside. Lightly toasted with butter this was a delicious treat growing up. Christmas time it was Portuguese Vina Dosh, wine/garlic marinated pork chops. I still recall the first time I tasted one of these. It was amazing. The earlier translation read "cabbage soup" but really it was meant to say Portuguese Kale Soup with Linguica which I still enjoy to this day. :-) Ah, you got a very good guide indeed. I bet the joy was mutual. From the time I was a kid up until today as an Uber driver, I love playing tour guide like that when called upon. Did you know that Brazil houses the largest Japanese population outside Japan? I wonder what Brazilian Portuguese with a Japanese accent sounds like. ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) What is the rhinoceros story? PS: I checked with my mother earlier today who told me it was a whaling ship and not a proper pirate ship as I remembered the story.
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Post by andrew on May 19, 2024 20:54:31 GMT -5
Yup, I hear you. I've been reading "I Am That" again recently and I marvel at the seeming contradictions of NM when talking to various questioners' but really there is no contradiction at all. He simply meets everyone where they are at. One of the sweetest exchanges I read recently was with a questioner whose mind was simple, clear and child-like. O meu lado paterno da família era dos Açores. Cresci a comer muita sopa de couve e linguica :-) Um dia destes vou falar-vos do meu bisavô, que foi raptado por piratas aos 14 anos, mas que depois escapou. Portugal parece-me lindo. Estou a usar um tradutor que traduz para português europeu que se encontra aqui. www.deepl.com/translatorWow! You'll have to share that story with us when you can. I never realized that the Azores are part of Portugal, nor did I realize how many countries speak Portuguese--usually the Brazilian variety. Makes sense. 200 million Brazilians and only 10 million E. Portuguese. We had an incredible personal guide in Lisbon who took us off the beaten path and told us so many interesting things that the average tourist would probably never hear. I love the rhinoceros story that explains why all of the sidewalks are tiled. Too funny. I'm also in love with the pasteis de nata custard cakes! Amazing. He took us to a bakery that makes 20,000/day, and they were extraordinary, especially with cinammon and still hot out of the oven. When I read your post, I could understand about half of it, but there were several words beyond my ken. Eu so sei algumas palavaras em Portugues! ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) Big fan of them too. I haven't seen them in America, but they sell them in grocery stories in the UK. They are that perfect problematic size of having to ask oneself....'is one really enough?' ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png)
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2024 14:39:26 GMT -5
Not a fan of AI potentially putting graphic artists out of work, and producing ripoff material. But we'll see.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2024 15:40:51 GMT -5
A particular realization makes this obvious. It happened to Federico Fa grin as he contemplated how to design a sentient computer, but it can happen as a result of contemplating ymany other existential questions. People look at two trees, but never realize that the space between the two trees is also what the trees ARE and is also what is looking at the trees. As Pope wrote, "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Drink deep or taste not the Pierian Spring." The intelligence of THIS is incomprehensible to the intellect, but the intellect can be informed of that incomprehensibility by a realization of what lies beyond the capacity of the intellect. I read Federico's book, and he doesn't say that humans can't create a truly intelligent system. He said he thinks that our current computer systems won't do it, because they operate by the rules of classical mechanics [*] and a classical system (according to him) can't be truly intelligent or creative like a human. But he doesn't preclude the possibility of constructing an artificial system that taps into the quantum realm, in the same way that he thinks true human intelligence also does. [*] by classical, he means that while the circuits have quantum properties and effects, they don't effect the outputs -- the overall behavior of the circuit follows completely deterministic rules, of the macroscopic world, without quantum "weirdness". Shawn interviewed Federico. Nice! If you're interested ... www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvaboTOYpIo
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