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Post by maxdprophet on Apr 11, 2017 11:06:34 GMT -5
Maybe, maybe not. Maybe just let bygones be bygones and surf with the rest of us? Once you become aware of the one-upmanship and the double bind games that are being perpetrated on you Max. By Christians and society in general. Letting bygones be bygones is to fall prey to the, I am more tolerant than you game. See how you are unwittingly unable to not play the game. Trying to put rules on it, which is what Reefs is doing is like trying to catch the ocean in your hands.   |
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Post by Reefs on Apr 11, 2017 11:06:45 GMT -5
What happens when the toxicity is removed? You are completely unaware that trying to get rid of toxicity is the reason that it's here. Just another vicious circle. What happens when the toxicity is removed is that some members will have to decide if they still fit in here or not. Based on the feedback I've got so far, for most here this decision isn't difficult, for a few others, however, the decision process seems involve an intense inner struggle. The message I am getting from you so far is that you have no intention of fitting in. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 11:18:28 GMT -5
Apparently I could. Were you asked to vote on a moderator? Would you accept a dictatorship in your country? Not knowing the background conversations, my impression is that this is a voluntary process. One who is interested in volunteering their services mentions to the residing moderators their interest in volunteering; maybe makes a case for it. If going ahead, the current moderators grant elevated status to the new volunteer. So it's not like Napoleon just grabbing the crown. And so far, I've appreciated all of these volunteers. Not a job I would want or could do (no time to commit). It's really a slap in the face to Peter who's hands off approach is really the only way for a forum to grow. It should be interesting to see if Reefs censoring of the one-upmanship and double bind game will be unbiased and enforced against everyone, which I highly doubt. The forum of late has become more detached from Reality then at any other time. Sad really... |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 11:25:18 GMT -5
What happens when the toxicity is removed? You are completely unaware that trying to get rid of toxicity is the reason that it's here. Just another vicious circle. What happens when the toxicity is removed is that some members will have to decide if they still fit in here or not. Based on the feedback I've got so far, for most here this decision isn't difficult, for a few others, however, the decision process seems involve an intense inner struggle. The message I am getting from you so far is that you have no intention of fitting in. Fitting in? In what way does Reality and the understanding of it, require fitting in? That is just more conceptual folly where there is a prerequisite for understanding by that which demands nothing at all. Understanding Reality can only be seen from an open mind, not from a closed mind determined to fit in. |
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Post by maxdprophet on Apr 11, 2017 11:26:05 GMT -5
Not knowing the background conversations, my impression is that this is a voluntary process. One who is interested in volunteering their services mentions to the residing moderators their interest in volunteering; maybe makes a case for it. If going ahead, the current moderators grant elevated status to the new volunteer. So it's not like Napoleon just grabbing the crown. And so far, I've appreciated all of these volunteers. Not a job I would want or could do (no time to commit). It's really a slap in the face to Peter who's hands off approach is really the only way for a forum to grow. It should be interesting to see if Reefs censoring of the one-upmanship and double bind game will be unbiased and enforced against everyone, which I highly doubt. The forum of late has become more detached from Reality then at any other time. Sad really... And yet I'm curious as to how exactly you think that? Can you give an example? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 11:35:56 GMT -5
It's really a slap in the face to Peter who's hands off approach is really the only way for a forum to grow. It should be interesting to see if Reefs censoring of the one-upmanship and double bind game will be unbiased and enforced against everyone, which I highly doubt. The forum of late has become more detached from Reality then at any other time. Sad really... And yet I'm curious as to how exactly you think that? Can you give an example? The question is misconceived. There is no I observing those thoughts and posting them. "In this house there is no room for thee and me"! The self appointment of Reefs as moderator perpetuates the thee's and me's. |
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Post by maxdprophet on Apr 11, 2017 11:57:36 GMT -5
And yet I'm curious as to how exactly you think that? Can you give an example? The question is misconceived. There is no I observing those thoughts and posting them. "In this house there is no room for thee and me"! The self appointment of Reefs as moderator perpetuates the thee's and me's. I'm interested in your claim that the forum has become more detached from Reality. It's curious. So I'm wondering what you have in mind related to that. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 13:11:40 GMT -5
The question is misconceived. There is no I observing those thoughts and posting them. "In this house there is no room for thee and me"! The self appointment of Reefs as moderator perpetuates the thee's and me's. I'm interested in your claim that the forum has become more detached from Reality. It's curious. So I'm wondering what you have in mind related to that. Tools for truth, for example, such as back-linking as well as the tools of language and thought, are of no real use to men when they are lost in the dream world of past and future. |
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Post by maxdprophet on Apr 11, 2017 13:18:50 GMT -5
I'm interested in your claim that the forum has become more detached from Reality. It's curious. So I'm wondering what you have in mind related to that. Tools for truth, for example, such as back-linking as well as the tools of language and thought, are of no real use to men when they are lost in the dream world of past and future. Seems like backlinking could be helpful if there's a misunderstanding or something. I've just been interacting with sdp and we've been referencing posts that happened previously and bringing them back and looking at them more closely. Not really sure what your beef is with language and thought. But perhaps I'm just lost in past and future and so am not the best to pontificate on that. |
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Post by maxdprophet on Apr 11, 2017 13:25:24 GMT -5
It's really a slap in the face to Peter who's hands off approach is really the only way for a forum to grow. It should be interesting to see if Reefs censoring of the one-upmanship and double bind game will be unbiased and enforced against everyone, which I highly doubt. The forum of late has become more detached from Reality then at any other time. Sad really... It has always been detached from Reality, exemplified by threads such as 'I am the world'. Not sad, just a hiding place for minds which have no other avenues of expression. Can you two see the hilarity in discussing what is more or less Real? |
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Post by maxdprophet on Apr 11, 2017 13:31:56 GMT -5
Can you two see the hilarity in discussing what is more or less Real? I can't. Perhaps, your and my understanding of 'real' is radically different. Sounds like a 'more Real than thou' claim. Which seems very funny to me. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 13:35:35 GMT -5
Tools for truth, for example, such as back-linking as well as the tools of language and thought, are of no real use to men when they are lost in the dream world of past and future. Seems like backlinking could be helpful if there's a misunderstanding or something. I've just been interacting with sdp and we've been referencing posts that happened previously and bringing them back and looking at them more closely. Not really sure what your beef is with language and thought. But perhaps I'm just lost in past and future and so am not the best to pontificate on that. Nothing wrong with them in the sense of navigating through the dream. We need them. Just not useful when it comes to understanding Reality. You know the real world. |
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Post by andrew on Apr 11, 2017 14:06:10 GMT -5
The user guidelines and new rules will be enforced across the entire board as stated in the OP. Moving the toxicity from one corner into another corner is counterproductive and doesn't make any sense - at least as long as we are still in a transition phase. What happens when the toxicity is removed? You are completely unaware that trying to get rid of toxicity is the reason that it's here. Just another vicious circle. Good to see you back. No point in fighting this, let's see what happens, it may really work out fine...a change for the forum might be refreshing... if it goes bad, then 'take it to the mattresses' Reefs, I appreciate the fact that you said your input would be minimal, for my part I think that is wise as it is far easier to be objective from a slight distance. Personally I don't want to find myself arguing with you about something and also having to consider the fact that I am arguing with a moderator that doesn't do temp bans hehe. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 14:43:51 GMT -5
What happens when the toxicity is removed? You are completely unaware that trying to get rid of toxicity is the reason that it's here. Just another vicious circle. Good to see you back. No point in fighting this, let's see what happens, it may really work out fine...a change for the forum might be refreshing... if it goes bad, then 'take it to the mattresses' Reefs, I appreciate the fact that you said your input would be minimal, for my part I think that is wise as it is far easier to be objective from a slight distance. Personally I don't want to find myself arguing with you about something and also having to consider the fact that I am arguing with a moderator that doesn't do temp bans hehe. Fighting? It's Reefs that is trying to fight and control a world, symbolic of the forum, whose very nature is insecurity, impermanence, and is always changing. It's conceptual folly. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 15:08:00 GMT -5
I'm interested in your claim that the forum has become more detached from Reality. It's curious. So I'm wondering what you have in mind related to that. Tools for truth, for example, such as back-linking as well as the tools of language and thought, are of no real use to men when they are lost in the dream world of past and future. The forum of late has become more detached from Reality then at any other time. Sad really... |
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