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Post by tuart on Jan 29, 2017 23:52:40 GMT -5
Had to read 3 times, makes sense, I approve this message ) Yes. mental concepts overshadow children and are used for the purpose of indoctrination.
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Post by tuart on Jan 29, 2017 23:54:16 GMT -5
What does presence mean to you? How do you know when you are present? What insures presence? 1. Something. 2. People look at me all of a sudden. 3. I don't have any insurance, so cannot answer that one. I trust that this thread has a moderator.
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Post by krsnaraja on Jan 29, 2017 23:57:15 GMT -5
What does presence mean to you? How do you know when you are present? What insures presence? 1. Something. 2. People look at me all of a sudden. 3. I don't have any insurance, so cannot answer that one. an Alfy (Thwart ) remark err trademark...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 0:00:18 GMT -5
mental concepts overshadow children and are used for the purpose of indoctrination. True, though whenever we attempt to explain, we have to use concepts, as we are using our minds to see what is being pointing to, which is non conceptual. The other way of true understanding comes from allowing yourself to be a the place of not knowing. Then allowing a relax, quiet mind to show you. I prefer the not knowing but on a forum, if we did so,we have lots of empty threads
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Post by krsnaraja on Jan 30, 2017 0:10:34 GMT -5
mental concepts overshadow children and are used for the purpose of indoctrination. True, though whenever we attempt to explain, we have to use concepts, as we are using our minds to see what is being pointing to, which is non conceptual. The other way of true understanding comes from allowing yourself to be a the place of not knowing. Then allowing a relax, quiet mind to show you. I prefer the not knowing but on a forum, if we did so,we have lots of empty threads Threads become empty when it`s not watered with sincere devotion. Without devotion it will become empty in due time. Take an example. Google yogananda.net. They banned me there because they could not accept for being me. They want me to conform with the Teachings of Yogananda. But I am not a robot, I posted in the forum about Christ Jesus/ Krsna cures cancer/kansr. So the moderator Omgurudeva got pissed off. He banned me for personal reasons when I called him, a wimp. Look at yogananda/forum.net now. It has to be repaired because of maintenance & topic issues. You know what Omgurudeva did? He deleted my poems, my articles, my views without informing me so I could have copies of them. That was real property he deleted. Whatever is happening to yogananda.net I believe has returned as bad karma. I been a member there since 2008 up to September 22, 2016.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 0:14:54 GMT -5
True, though whenever we attempt to explain, we have to use concepts, as we are using our minds to see what is being pointing to, which is non conceptual. The other way of true understanding comes from allowing yourself to be a the place of not knowing. Then allowing a relax, quiet mind to show you. I prefer the not knowing but on a forum, if we did so,we have lots of empty threads Threads become empty when it`s not watered with sincere devotion. Without devotion it will become empty in due time. Take an example. Google yogananda.net. They banned me there because they could not accept for being me. They want me to conform with the Teachings of Yogananda. But I am not a robot, I posted in the forum about Christ Jesus/ Krsna cures cancer/kansr. So the moderator Omgurudeva got pissed off. He banned me for personal reasons when I called him, a wimp. Look at yogananda/forum.net now. It has to be repaired because of maintenance & topic issues. You know what Omgurudeva did? He deleted my poems, my articles, my views without informing me so I could have copies of them. That was real property he deleted. Whatever is happening to yogananda.net I believe has returned as bad karma. I been a member there since 2008 up to September 22, 2016. So I guess you are hoping to relive the same event here. You are most fortunate this forum is so open.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 0:18:04 GMT -5
mental concepts overshadow children and are used for the purpose of indoctrination. True, though whenever we attempt to explain, we have to use concepts, as we are using our minds to see what is being pointing to, which is non conceptual. The other way of true understanding comes from allowing yourself to be a the place of not knowing. Then allowing a relax, quiet mind to show you. I prefer the not knowing but on a forum, if we did so,we have lots of empty threads You said something a few days ago about awareness being "set" in a particular way. I was struck by that description.
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Post by tuart on Jan 30, 2017 0:21:05 GMT -5
mental concepts overshadow children and are used for the purpose of indoctrination. True, though whenever we attempt to explain, we have to use concepts, as we are using our minds to see what is being pointing to, which is non conceptual. The other way of true understanding comes from allowing yourself to be a the place of not knowing. Then allowing a relax, quiet mind to show you. I prefer the not knowing but on a forum, if we did so,we have lots of empty threads True enough. This is why the children give up their purity and stop asking why? We owe it to our children to find the time for them and NOT give them insane-concepts that only lead them out of the heart and away from our common-senses and set-them up to be hurt later. My Brother had this done to him and became Religious afterwards thinking that a different story might be able to help him. Do you mean that you pretend to know, when in fact in your heart you know the truth? How is this not like lying?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 0:21:39 GMT -5
True, though whenever we attempt to explain, we have to use concepts, as we are using our minds to see what is being pointing to, which is non conceptual. The other way of true understanding comes from allowing yourself to be a the place of not knowing. Then allowing a relax, quiet mind to show you. I prefer the not knowing but on a forum, if we did so,we have lots of empty threads You said something a few days ago about awareness being "set" in a particular way. I was struck by that description. I don't know honestly, you have the tread, I say a lot of what comes in the moment, and forget it. This began happening a lot after my 3 day deal. Thanks
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Post by krsnaraja on Jan 30, 2017 0:22:05 GMT -5
Threads become empty when it`s not watered with sincere devotion. Without devotion it will become empty in due time. Take an example. Google yogananda.net. They banned me there because they could not accept for being me. They want me to conform with the Teachings of Yogananda. But I am not a robot, I posted in the forum about Christ Jesus/ Krsna cures cancer/kansr. So the moderator Omgurudeva got pissed off. He banned me for personal reasons when I called him, a wimp. Look at yogananda/forum.net now. It has to be repaired because of maintenance & topic issues. You know what Omgurudeva did? He deleted my poems, my articles, my views without informing me so I could have copies of them. That was real property he deleted. Whatever is happening to yogananda.net I believe has returned as bad karma. I been a member there since 2008 up to September 22, 2016. So I guess you are hoping to relive the same event here. You are most fortunate this forum is so open. This is not a Yogananda Forum. So I am quite relieved. You know SRF? They squeeze your brain to the last drop until you go dry. When there`s none left, they treat you like junk. Those poems, original articles of mine were masterpieces. Maybe they picked them up like fruits from a tree and converted/concocted them to become theirs. What happened to yogananda/message boar/ net is bad karma. Serves them right. Unlike yoganandaji/message board.org although my posts there is made invisible at least they did not delete them. I can still log-in and read my threads/posts.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 0:24:28 GMT -5
True, though whenever we attempt to explain, we have to use concepts, as we are using our minds to see what is being pointing to, which is non conceptual. The other way of true understanding comes from allowing yourself to be a the place of not knowing. Then allowing a relax, quiet mind to show you. I prefer the not knowing but on a forum, if we did so,we have lots of empty threads True enough. This is why the children give up their purity and stop asking why? We owe it to our children to find the time for them and NOT give them insane-concepts that only lead them out of the heart and away from our common-senses and set-them up to be hurt later. My Brother had this done to him and became Religious afterwards thinking that a different story might be able to help him. Do you mean that you pretend to know, when in fact in your heart you know the truth? How is this not like lying? Not at all, I mean I establish a fertile place of true not knowing and allow it to come through. I agree about the kids.
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Post by tuart on Jan 30, 2017 0:25:05 GMT -5
You said something a few days ago about awareness being "set" in a particular way. I was struck by that description. I don't know honestly, you have the tread, I say a lot of what comes in the moment, and forget it. This began happening a lot after my 3 day deal. Thanks That's because you have a pure-heart. I have met people like you before that's why I trust you like my Mother. In this presence thread there is one ugly presence that could not even be the opposite of love.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 0:25:29 GMT -5
So I guess you are hoping to relive the same event here. You are most fortunate this forum is so open. This is not a Yogananda Forum. So I am quite relieved. You know SRF? They squeeze your brain to the last drop until you go dry. When there`s none left, they treat you like junk. Those poems, original articles of mine were masterpieces. Maybe they picked them up like fruits from a tree and converted/concocted them to become theirs. What happened to yogananda/message boar/ net is bad karma. Serves them right. Unlike yoganandaji/message board.org although my posts there is made invisible at least they did not delete them. I can still log-in and read my threads/posts. Didn't you say you practised kriya yoga, like Yogananda taught. Was your brain squeezed?
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Post by tuart on Jan 30, 2017 0:27:01 GMT -5
True enough. This is why the children give up their purity and stop asking why? We owe it to our children to find the time for them and NOT give them insane-concepts that only lead them out of the heart and away from our common-senses and set-them up to be hurt later. My Brother had this done to him and became Religious afterwards thinking that a different story might be able to help him. Do you mean that you pretend to know, when in fact in your heart you know the truth? How is this not like lying? Not at all, I mean I establish a fertile place of true not knowing and allow it to come through. I agree about the kids. Thank you, I knew you would come-through.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 0:31:24 GMT -5
This is not a Yogananda Forum. So I am quite relieved. You know SRF? They squeeze your brain to the last drop until you go dry. When there`s none left, they treat you like junk. Those poems, original articles of mine were masterpieces. Maybe they picked them up like fruits from a tree and converted/concocted them to become theirs. What happened to yogananda/message boar/ net is bad karma. Serves them right. Unlike yoganandaji/message board.org although my posts there is made invisible at least they did not delete them. I can still log-in and read my threads/posts. Didn't you say you practised krya yoga, like Yogananda taught. Was your brain squeezed? Far from it, I found the SRF to be a institution of high integrity. I don't agree with some of the changes they have made regarding Kryia yoga initiation, though the members are some of the most heart centered people I have known. I use to go to the cottage retreat in Oceanside CA for Christmas vacation, it was runs by SFR nuns, some of the fondness memories about god, and love have come from them.
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