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Post by alertpeaceeternal on Feb 5, 2017 13:29:17 GMT -5
I'm okay with that too. And everybody, including Awakesowhat, can post critical comments and/or videos about ISKON, Prabupad and the community founded by Prabupad. I think K has made it clear he isn't a member of ISKON. You say the whole group should take the rap for abuse. So how about a non dual teacher abusing a student. Do you now dismiss non duality as well as ISKON on that basis? There's criticising because we just don't like something and there's criticising by engaging with the subject. You know as well as I do that both bhakti and jnani are both equal and valid paths. Non dualists masters like Ramana Maharshi said this. It is a fact that generally speaking western non dualists don't feel comfortable with devotion as many have come to it through rejection of Christian devotional dualism. But all the great non dual masters you will find are deeply devotional as well. I don't discuss this with you. If you have a different take on what I'm saying here, you can send Peter a PM, Satch. End of discussion. A. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 17:56:02 GMT -5
Not in the threads I started. Can anybody/Awakesowhat leave my threads alone? If anybody in this forum want to post criticisms on ISKCON, they should open a thread for that. Can they not understand a simple request? I do not want my threads messed up with things not related to what Prabhupad says/Krsna cures cancer/kansr/Songs of Praise and Worship. Even if there are no discussion on them. It`s fine for me. I am doing this for the viewers/readers/guests/Krishna devotees/devout Catholics who read/listen to my threads in this forum. Prabupad is, in my view a mere sanskrit scholar and has created a cult, called ISKON. He was a cult-leader and there exsits enough evidence that that is the care. You might want to go to the Rick Ross' cult education forum to get an idea of what I'm talking about. This is discussion forum about spiritual topic. And a CRITIQUE of a particular "spiritual" cult is a different aspect of discussing a topic. If you want to promote your own cult, based on Prapupads "teacherings" you will have to promote your cult in the promotion section and not up here. Promotion: Advertising a product by over emphezing its qualities. Discussion: Talking about different aspects of a particular topic. You are confused about the purpose of the discussion board, K. End of story. A. Very well said, my points exactly, I'm very surprise even with Peter that K has lasted this long here dumping his crap. We have had already a past Krishna guy seriously give it to K. K is so deeply hypnotize with this, he can not hear the simple truth. |
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Post by alertpeaceeternal on Feb 5, 2017 19:03:45 GMT -5
Once again:Prabupad is, in my view a mere sanskrit scholar and has created a cult, called ISKON. He was a cult-leader and there exsits enough evidence that that is the ca se. You might want to go to the Rick Ross' cult education forum to get an idea of what I'm talking about. This is a discussion forum about spiritual topic s. And a CRITIQUE of a particular "spiritual" cult is a different aspect of discussing a topic. If you want to promote your own cult, based on Prapupads "teacherings" you will have to promote your cult in the promotion section and not up here. Promotion: Advertising a product by over emphezing its qualities. Discussion: Talking about different aspects of a particular topic. You are confused about the purpose of the discussion board, K. End of story. A. Very well said, my points exactly, I'm very surprise even with Peter that K has lasted this long here dumping his crap. We have had already a past Krishna guy seriously give it to K. K is so deeply hypnotize with this, he can not hear the simple truth. Thanks for quoting me. I fixed my own typos in the quote. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 19:24:27 GMT -5
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Post by alertpeaceeternal on Feb 5, 2017 20:12:28 GMT -5
Prabupad and Hitler are NOT, by any means, the same caliber of ..... (you name it)!!! This is tasteless, Awe. Seriously. It can not be compared! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 20:17:51 GMT -5
Prabupad and Hitler are NOT, by any means, the same caliber of ..... (you name it)!!! This is tasteless, Awe. Seriously. It can not be compared! On the contrary watch the video, it is not comparing the 2, it is showing the support that P gave Hilter Please don't let me have to correct you again or I will clip another wing  |
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Post by alertpeaceeternal on Feb 5, 2017 20:31:57 GMT -5
Prabupad and Hitler are NOT, by any means, the same caliber of ..... (you name it)!!! This is tasteless, Awe. Seriously. It can not be compared! On the contrary watch the video, it is not comparing the 2, it is showing the support that P gave Hilter Please don't let me have to correct you again or I will clip another wing I watched untill minute 10 or so. It would have been enough to point out, by the video makers, that Prabupad denied, or played down the holocaust. That would have been an okay critique. But the rest of the video isn't at all related to this topic. I percieve you now as someone who is over-reacting, just like K., and that makes me: Face-palm! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 20:35:25 GMT -5
On the contrary watch the video, it is not comparing the 2, it is showing the support that P gave Hilter Please don't let me have to correct you again or I will clip another wing I watched untill minute 10 or so. It would have been enough to point out, by the video makers, that Prabupad denied, or played down the holocaust. That would have been an okay critique. But the rest of the video isn't at all related to this topic. I percieve you now as someone who is over-reacting, just like K., and that makes me: Face-palm!So the video was not what you expected then, a comparison between the 2. How tainted our minds can become just by seeing 2 names side by side. just saying |
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Post by alertpeaceeternal on Feb 5, 2017 20:51:31 GMT -5
I watched untill minute 10 or so. It would have been enough to point out, by the video makers, that Prabupad denied, or played down the holocaust. That would have been an okay critique. But the rest of the video isn't at all related to this topic. I percieve you now as someone who is over-reacting, just like K., and that makes me: Face-palm!So the video was not what you expected then, a comparison between the 2. How tainted our minds can become just by seeing 2 names side by side. just saying It is a video that shows Prabupad besides Hitler in the picture, Awe. That is the first impression one gets. Which implies that they have something in common, which they might, but certainly not that they are of the same quality regarding totalitarianism and dictatorship and death toll. That I have to defend Prabupads approach now, just because you over react and can't wait for a while and see how K. might develop, is a shame. For Me, not for you. I'm ashamed that I now have to argue for someone who I personally totally not respect. But that does not mean that you are right in this case. I'm dissapointed. About both of us. You and me. Ah! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 21:03:25 GMT -5
It's more than that, seriously you did not watch that whole video So the video was not what you expected then, a comparison between the 2. How tainted our minds can become just by seeing 2 names side by side. just saying It is a video that shows Prabupad besides Hitler in the picture, Awe. That is the first impression one gets. Which implies that they have something in common, which they might, but certainly not that they are of the same quality regarding totalitarianism and dictatorship and death toll. That I have to defend Prabupads approach now, just because you over react and can't wait for a while and see how K. might develop, is a shame. For Me, not for you. I'm ashamed that I now have to argue for someone who I personally totally not respect. But that does not mean that you are right in this case. I'm dissapointed. About both of us. You and me. Ah! It's more than that, seriously you did not watch the whole video |
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Post by alertpeaceeternal on Feb 5, 2017 22:53:24 GMT -5
It's more than that, seriously you did not watch that whole video It is a video that shows Prabupad besides Hitler in the picture, Awe. That is the first impression one gets. Which implies that they have something in common, which they might, but certainly not that they are of the same quality regarding totalitarianism and dictatorship and death toll. That I have to defend Prabupads approach now, just because you over react and can't wait for a while and see how K. might develop, is a shame. For Me, not for you. I'm ashamed that I now have to argue for someone who I personally totally not respect. But that does not mean that you are right in this case. I'm dissapointed. About both of us. You and me. Ah! It's more than that, seriously you did not watch the whole video I don't have to. I know exactely what kind of college student made this video. It's amateurish and sensationalistic. I worked for real investigative journalists. I also know the connections the german ss-nazis and the gestapo had with the geeta and the cathlic church. Don't try to be smart, Awe. You're not that kinda guy. Just like K. isn't. And if you want to refute Prapupad, do it by looking at what the calender says K. is posting. I could refute a lot of the content but I'm not interested. I prefer to help to free others, who are here, right now. That's my thing. Okay? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 22:57:02 GMT -5
It's more than that, seriously you did not watch that whole video It's more than that, seriously you did not watch the whole video I don't have to. I know exactely what kind of college student made this video. It's amateurish and sensationalistic. I worked for real investigative journalists. I also know the connections the german ss-nazis and the gestapo had with the geeta and the cathlic church. Don't try to be smart, Awe. You're not that kinda guy. Just like K. isn't. And if you want to refute Prapupad, do it by looking at what the calender says K. is posting. I could refute a lot of the content but I'm not interested. I prefer to help to free others, who are here, right now. That's my thing. Okay? I don't need to do anything, the list of youtube vids I provided are enough, you are aware that I posted many. So ;let me ask you, how are you going about helping ppl here, ya know doing your thang? |
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Post by alertpeaceeternal on Feb 5, 2017 23:00:14 GMT -5
I don't have to. I know exactely what kind of college student made this video. It's amateurish and sensationalistic. I worked for real investigative journalists. I also know the connections the german ss-nazis and the gestapo had with the geeta and the cathlic church. Don't try to be smart, Awe. You're not that kinda guy. Just like K. isn't. And if you want to refute Prapupad, do it by looking at what the calender says K. is posting. I could refute a lot of the content but I'm not interested. I prefer to help to free others, who are here, right now. That's my thing. Okay? I don't need to do anything, the list of youtube vids I provided are enough, you are aware that I posted many. So ;let me ask you, how are you going about helping ppl here, ya know doing your thang? Don't make me call you a hopeless case. That was it for today. See you tomorrow. Good night. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 23:25:44 GMT -5
I don't need to do anything, the list of youtube vids I provided are enough, you are aware that I posted many. So ;let me ask you, how are you going about helping ppl here, ya know doing your thang? Don't make me call you a hopeless case. That was it for today. See you tomorrow. Good night. I got rid of hope some time ago, so hope less is not a issue for me good night |
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Post by krsnaraja on Feb 5, 2017 23:58:05 GMT -5
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