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Post by laughter on Jun 30, 2016 13:10:56 GMT -5
Your posts are getting bigger and bigger..i call 'some form of arousal'. responded here.
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Post by Peter on Jun 30, 2016 14:56:51 GMT -5
he sent you a few math slides, so you never spoke to him again ?? Who said anything about maths? No it was spiritual, philosophy, feeling stuff. Quite intense for a guy/guy interaction...well, from my experience anyway. We'd hung out at college, stayed up all night talking a few times. There was a real connection there, or so it seemed at the time. Actually being able to talk about things that matter to me and not have to pretend any interest in sports is a rare jewel in my life. The letter writing thing was after we left college. I guess as a long distance relationship it just didn't have the staying power.
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Post by jay17 on Jun 30, 2016 17:16:45 GMT -5
Your posts are getting bigger and bigger..i call 'some form of arousal'. responded here. Showing minimal interest here.
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Post by jay17 on Jun 30, 2016 17:21:03 GMT -5
Kettle:Pot = #000000. I had that problem with a friend from college. I'd write him something and he'd write me back responding to my points and adding a few of his own. Then I'd reply to his points and add my own and the whole thing snowballed. One day I got 8 sides of A4 through the post and I just didn't have the motivation to respond. So the conversation just stopped there and I never wrote to him again. The energy and motivation you guys manage to burn through / self generate appears to be indefatigable, however. On a more serious note, how do you determine the amount of energy i am creating and using?
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Post by jay17 on Jun 30, 2016 17:28:48 GMT -5
And lest we forget the reason for this thread, i once again express laughter did lose the contest, no matter how much effort he exerts trying to cover this up, deny it, avoid the reality of it.
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Post by maxdprophet on Jul 1, 2016 9:53:21 GMT -5
And lest we forget the reason for this thread, i once again express laughter did lose the contest, no matter how much effort he exerts trying to cover this up, deny it, avoid the reality of it.
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Post by Peter on Jul 1, 2016 17:22:37 GMT -5
On a more serious note, how do you determine the amount of energy i am creating and using? A glib answer would be that I multiple rate of posts x length of posts x emotional payload quotient - admittedly a very subjective measure. To give it more thought, from a physics standpoint we say that energy is neither created nor destroyed, so the question should be: how are you transducing this energy and where is it coming from? It may feel to you that your writing is effortless, but I think you'd agree that both thinking and moving require energy, so I suspect that the effortlessness I'm assuming you experience are due to the fact that energy is freely flowing. So where is it coming from?
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Post by jay17 on Jul 1, 2016 18:43:48 GMT -5
On a more serious note, how do you determine the amount of energy i am creating and using? A glib answer would be that I multiple rate of posts x length of posts x emotional payload quotient - admittedly a very subjective measure. To give it more thought, from a physics standpoint we say that energy is neither created nor destroyed, so the question should be: how are you transducing this energy and where is it coming from? It may feel to you that your writing is effortless, but I think you'd agree that both thinking and moving require energy, so I suspect that the effortlessness I'm assuming you experience are due to the fact that energy is freely flowing. So where is it coming from? I have no interest in determining the absolute source of my human energy. It's energy that i willingly choose to use at my discretion, so that's enough knowledge for me at this time. My first interest is your point for this post... Kettle:Pot = #000000. I had that problem with a friend from college. I'd write him something and he'd write me back responding to my points and adding a few of his own. Then I'd reply to his points and add my own and the whole thing snowballed. One day I got 8 sides of A4 through the post and I just didn't have the motivation to respond. So the conversation just stopped there and I never wrote to him again. The energy and motivation you guys manage to burn through / self generate appears to be indefatigable, however. 'kettle:Pot =0'...what were you conveying by that, what does that signify about laughter and myself? Why share your own experience of how you didn't have the energy to continue a discussion, then express a comparitve you theorise we must have an unlimited supply? And what do you think are our motivations for the continued interaction?
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Post by laughter on Jul 1, 2016 22:20:54 GMT -5
Showing minimal interest here. My my, how fickle of you.
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Post by laughter on Jul 1, 2016 22:23:40 GMT -5
And lest we forget the reason for this thread, i once again express laughter did lose the contest, no matter how much effort he exerts trying to cover this up, deny it, avoid the reality of it. Troll-by-repetition (aka spamming) is a very effective form but that it's so crude makes it impossible to camouflage.
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Post by jay17 on Jul 2, 2016 1:30:24 GMT -5
And lest we forget the reason for this thread, i once again express laughter did lose the contest, no matter how much effort he exerts trying to cover this up, deny it, avoid the reality of it. Troll-by-repetition (aka spamming) is a very effective form but that it's so crude makes it impossible to camouflage. When upset, compensate by slandering those that express info you don't like. When you can't win an argument, when the facts don't support your version of reality, slander those that have presented this info.
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Post by Peter on Jul 2, 2016 2:34:01 GMT -5
I have no interest in determining the absolute source of my human energy. I hear that. For me it's interesting, partly because I'm moderating and partly because I have an interest in motivations. what were you conveying by that, what does that signify about laughter and myself? You were pointing out to Laughter that his posts increasing in size indicated an arousal - what I would think of as a ramping up of energy. You yourself are well known for voluminous posting, so that triple there is a play on "Pot calling the kettle black" ie you're seeing something in Laughter that - I think - is one of your own characteristics. And that's not the first time I've had that impression; previously you accused him of writing controversial posts because he needs the attention. I'm back to energy, motivation...basically I'm of the opinion that people must "get" something from their interactions here, or they wouldn't do it. Why share your own experience of how you didn't have the energy to continue a discussion, then express a comparitve you theorise we must have an unlimited supply? And what do you think are our motivations for the continued interaction? You don't see an immediate connection? I don't have the energy or motivation to post. You and others appear to have both so I'm interested in why that is and what the mechanism might be. Where is the energy coming from? Drama creates energy, it pulls people in. I think that's why people create drama - because energy is an enjoyable sensation. Being right, winning, feeling attacked, getting allies "on side", feeling wanted/accepted these are all things that generate sufficient energy for the act of putting fingers to keys. I've heard it expressed as "feeding", but there's also the science lens - looking at Dopamine. I dare swear that some people here are motivated by pure altruism, of wanting to contribute something positive to the world. That's rare, but I assume it happens. Saying what I think your motivations are would be pure speculation on my part. I can't imagine you telling me I'd nailed it, if I were to try.
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Post by laughter on Jul 2, 2016 2:38:57 GMT -5
Troll-by-repetition (aka spamming) is a very effective form but that it's so crude makes it impossible to camouflage. When upset, compensate by slandering those that express info you don't like. When you can't win an argument, when the facts don't support your version of reality, slander those that have presented this info. oh, wow, so you really were upset all those times you slandered me? ... hey I'm sorry kid I didn't realize you were so sensitive.
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Post by jay17 on Jul 2, 2016 14:35:41 GMT -5
When upset, compensate by slandering those that express info you don't like. When you can't win an argument, when the facts don't support your version of reality, slander those that have presented this info. oh, wow, so you really were upset all those times you slandered me? ... hey I'm sorry kid I didn't realize you were so sensitive. Are you aware that when you deflect, you are signalling you have no interest in connecting with the other in conversation. And that you deflect when someone says something to you or about you that you don't want to consider or address. And because you signal you don't want to connect, people(some, not all, and it's subject to the topic of discussion) cease interacting with you, and you interpet that as you've won some competition, and that evokes the happy happy joy joys in you. So, as you desire to feel that again, but these people have learnt to cease indepth interaction with you, you then have to resort to taunts, controversial, disrespectful, irrational and unfounded statements to entice them into once again interfacing with you. But you do so not to have an actual conversation, you do this so you can once again feel the happy happy joy joys experienced from perceiving you have won a competition against another. Yet another self created loop you are in, as evidenced by the one and only experiment of cutting and pasting your own words from the same thread back to you as my responses and you argued with yourself for about 3 pages, with such a focus on winning that you weren't even aware you were not in conversation with another, but instead were arguing against yourself. It is of no deep concern to me if you need or desire to behave this way in conversation. Your response to this interested me... Oh, is calling someone an "attention wh0re" socially acceptable where you live jimmy? ... as for (most of) the rest of it, pure projection son. Q. I don't know the exact social protocols in 'Murica, but in Oz, there exists the freedom afforded to all to express one's personal opinion. Thus doing so is socially acceptable. But perhaps your beef is not with 'freedom of speech', as you seem quite comfortable when expressing your opinion of others and\or thier thoughts. Perhaps your beef is confined to expressions you do not agree with or like. Perhaps you seek more power to censor others. For if you were like me, in that i am no longer adversely affected by other's words, i have no need or desire to censor anyone's verbal expressions. If you have a different opinion to mine, i would like to hear what you conclude is\are your reason(s) for your constant immature, irrational and disrespectful comments toward those you disagree with and\or do not rez with. ..and your non answer says enough to me to not sit around waiting for the response. It simply adds weight to all i have just expressed. It doesn't prove it, it's just my personal opinion that i am satisfied with enough to choose to cease indepth interactions with you. I find you are very closed off, guarded and defensive, while expressing yourself as superior and victorious in your social interactions. I have no interest in deeply connecting with such people. I prefer people who are secure in themselves and do not need to hide behind a false persona, people who can openly discuss many different types of issues without feeling adverse sensations, thus possibly triggering rude and disrespectful behavior towards me. If you require to interface with some people in order to feel better about yourself, you're going to have to get your fix elsewhere. I spent a considerable amount of time with you in the past, learning about you, getting to know you, and i choose to not indepthly converse with people who use me for their own jollies.
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Post by laughter on Jul 2, 2016 15:12:10 GMT -5
<goat wall with line multiplication factor of 15x> uh-hmmm ... Your posts are getting bigger and bigger..i call 'some form of arousal'. Sorry, but I refuse to read the wall unless you can explain in no more than 2x the lines you're replying to why I should and you also first directly answer this question.
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