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Post by Reefs on Jun 14, 2017 23:09:39 GMT -5
Schizophrenia
Seth: Schizophrenia is caused by a personality fragment that is broken off, so to speak, from the primary acting personality, operating often in direct opposition to the primary personality, but in any case operating as a secondary personality.
(Session 15)
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Post by Reefs on Jun 14, 2017 23:50:01 GMT -5
The ego, the subconscious and dissociation
Seth: The ego is extremely important. It is however only a part of what you call yourself. Your artistic ability does not belong to your ego, though I understand as I speak that anyone on your plane identifies himself with his ego, and when he says "I am" he means he is his ego, or his ego is. Nevertheless, the ego is the tool by which the hidden self manipulates in the physical universe as you know it. The ego enables you to use or focus your artistic ability along the lines necessary to make it effective on your plane. However, when the ego becomes involved with fears to a greater or lesser extent, it ceases to be an effective tool and becomes instead a hammer hitting you incessantly over the head.
You see, the subconscious and the ego, of course, are both you. For simplicity's sake I will speak of the ego and the subconscious, though they are actually one. The subconscious forms and projects the materializations of the ego as a tool to enable it to attain its goals. When these goals and talents are attributed to the ego alone they are so to speak decapitated.
Your own subconscious is the fountain of your individuality and personality. From it springs your talent. When the ego becomes too concerned with daily matters, with worry in other words, then the works of the tool become clogged. It becomes ineffective. Dissociation unclogs the tool and is absolutely necessary. The freely working subconscious, or the inner you, is completely capable of taking care of all practical considerations, and will use the ego as a tool to see that this is done.
Dissociation puts the power back where it belongs. Daily methods of dissociation are extremely practical and beneficial. You will notice within a few week’s time, if not sooner, an added energy. So-called impulses on your part are often quelled because your ego finds them impractical. The subconscious knows its own meat and sauce, and the best means for its own nourishment.
(Session 17)
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Post by Reefs on Jun 16, 2017 0:41:52 GMT -5
Ego as camouflage
Seth: Man's ego causes him to interpret everything else in the light of himself. He loses very much in this manner. The ego is definitely an advancement, but it can be compared to the bark of the tree in many ways. The bark of the tree is flexible, extremely vibrant, and grows with the growth beneath. It is a tree's contact with the outer world, the tree's interpreter, and to some degree the tree's companion.
So should man's ego be. When man's ego turns instead into a shell, when instead of interpreting outside conditions it reacts too violently against them, then it hardens, becomes an imprisoning form that begins to snuff out important data, and to keep enlarging information from the inner self. The purpose of the ego is protective. It is also a device to enable the inner self to inhabit the physical plane. It is in other words a camouflage.
It is the physical materialization of the inner self, but it is not meant to snuff out the inner self. If for example our tree bark grew fearful of the stormy weather and began to harden itself against the elements, in a well-meaning but distorted protective spirit, then the tree would die. The sunlight and so forth could never penetrate. The sap could not move upward for the trunk would solidify through and through, trying all the while to protect, and killing the tree with its obsessive kindness. This is what the ego does when it reacts too violently to purely physical data on your plane. As a result it stiffens and you have, my well-meaning friend, the cold detachment with which you have faced the world.
(Session 18)
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Post by Reefs on Jun 16, 2017 0:52:09 GMT -5
Mediums
Seth: As far as mediums are concerned, for that matter the term is rather ridiculous. From my point of view it is like saying that some people are breathers and some are not. Everyone is a medium, unwittingly and yet knowingly. It is well known to your scientists, or it should be, that you bring many things about without knowing how you do so. Your so-called mediums are simply people who know more about what they are doing.
(Session 19)
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Post by Reefs on Jun 18, 2017 8:33:27 GMT -5
Extrasensory Perception (ESP)
Seth: Much investigation along the lines of so-called ESP is being carried on in the Western world. The fact is that Western man has not only cut himself off from half of his own ability, and half of his own knowledge because of his insistence upon an artificial dual nature, but he has also cut himself off from the very primitive societies from which he could learn very much about these abilities, which he himself refuses to admit. His education, his everyday pattern of existence, his cultural values, tend to imprison him so that he can only view other societies through the murky haze of his own misconceptions. If he considers a native in Africa, for example, as a superstitious rather imbecilic, almost prehistoric creature from the past, then he will learn nothing of that man's ability. He will ridicule any such evidence of so-called ESP on the native's part as further proof of the African's childlike mind.
The trouble is in ESP investigations, that you are using the wrong tools again. You are taking this dual self for granted again. Until you realize that there is one self, and not one self who does and manipulates and another self who breathes and dreams, you will get nowhere quickly. Investigations carried on according to what is considered scientific precepts are doomed in a large measure to slow-motion tactics at best, and to complete failure at worst. This does not mean that evidence cannot be found, and overwhelming evidence, for the existence of the inner senses. It does mean that spontaneity must be allowed for. It is extremely difficult to relate data received by the inner senses into data that will be picked up by the outer senses.
(Session 25)
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jun 19, 2017 11:15:43 GMT -5
In my case, I see things as narrative because wars aren't fought over real things, but over symbolic entities such as religion, nation, political idealism etc. When I keep up with the news, It's not a happy read like Dr. Zeuss, but I understand it as a genre of language, not different in essence to any other genre - a kind of poetry if you will - designed to elicit emotional response, but under a shroud of supposed objectivity. For example, in Australia, people seeking asylum arrive on boats from Indonesia, which is not illegal, but politicians and news media refer to them as 'illegal immigrants' (which is entirely different), and of course, the general public imagine them as criminals, which makes it seem Ok to detain them indefininitely in offshore detention centres. These folk are very rarely referred to as 'asylum seekers', which better describes them. If they were, then the right legal obligations might start to seem valid, and indefinite detention would appear unconstitutional, abuse of human rights, a crime under international law. Of course Australians are highly emotional about these 'illegals' because they don't understand rhetoric, and buy into the terminology of the genre, which conjures images of the monstrous in their minds, which they fear. It makes a stark definition between 'we' who are Australians (not illegal/monstrous) and 'they' who are 'not-us'... without any consideration about the wholly imaginary notion of 'Australia'. Expand that example and you see the whole symbolic space in which human beings live, and then you find yourself outside the space without a nationality or religion within your own identity, but no less projected onto your body by everyone in society, and how important that is in terms how well you can live within the social realm. People are then trapped because they understand the social perception will drastically affect the difference between walking free and being detained, for example, so we're compelled to create impressions which incite a favourable attitude toward ourselves by others. This brings the critical issue - ourselves against others - and how all these symbolic artifices take the form, student/teacher and what have you. There is always a power dynamic. The teacher is more influential than the student, the president more influential than the citizen. The 'illegals' are utterly powerless, and the immigration minister is practically omnipotent in that relation. War is the implosion of excess, and it might appear to be emotion, but under the emotional level is exertion and resistance of power between 'one' and 'the other', which only exists in the symbolic space. When we imagine Islam as 'the other', in a monstrous way, we only do so to contrast 'ourselves' as angelic. It's all a drama, literally written down, then staged, but people are all in play, seen by others as 'one thing' or 'the other', and since that deeply affects the well-being and survival of the real living body, the symbolic space starts to encompass the real. Then of course, we see the sorts of infantile script writing by politicions and the media, and the subsequent acting out of the whole cast, all the while, people don't even consider the possibility that the entire script is a work of fiction. As far as I understand Seth now, I think you could easily replace emotion with vibration in that quote. Seth talks about how every cell has its own individual consciousness and never loses it even though the cell becomes part of an organ or a body. This applies also to people, groups and societies. A-H would say it's all a matter of co-creation. I actually do think people see thru the script more and more because the population has evolved, the methods of controlling the population somehow are still the same. And so you can see more and more cases where the script is malfunctioning. If you compare your reaction 30 years ago to a news headline and your reaction today to a news headline, do you see any difference? Seth: "There are units of consciousness, then, as there are units of matter. ...The basic unit of consciousness obviously is not physical. It contains within itself innate infinite properties of expansion, development, and organization... It is aware energy, identified within itself as itself, not "personified" but awarized. It is therefore the source of all kinds of consciousness, and the varieties of its activity are infinite. It combines with others of its kind, forming then units of consciousness -- as, mentioned often, atoms and molecules combine. This basic unit is endowed with unpredictability. That very unpredictability allows for infinite patterns and fulfillments. ...Their nature is the vitalizing force behind everything in your physical universe, and others as well. These units can indeed appear in several places at once, and without going through space, in your terms. Literally now, these basic units of consciousness can be in all places at once. They are in all places at once. They will not be recognized because they will always appear as something else. Of course they move faster than light. There are millions of them in one atom -- millions. Each of these units is aware of the reality of the others, and influences of the others. In your terms these units move forward and backward in time, but they can also move into thresholds of time with which you are not familiar. All probabilities are probed and experienced, and all possible universes created from these units. ...There are systems in which a moment, from your standpoint, is made to endure for the life of a universe. ...there is more creativity and variety in an inner reality than you can ever physically perceive. ...Since these units of consciousness exist at once, they are aware of all the organized self-structures of which they are a part. ...These units grow out of themselves. Since I have told you that in your terms your past, present, and future exist at once, these units are constantly emerging out of your now-point from both the future and the past. (Talks some about Jane's probable selves, note sdp). ...The larger picture is somewhat more difficult -- by far -- to express. ...I am saying I am now ready to lead you beyond those necessary preliminaries. All matter is based on the units mentioned, with their unpredictability and their propensity for exploring all probabilities. Even your atomic structure , then, is poised between probabilities. if this is true, then obviously "you" are aware of only one small probable portion of yourself -- and this portion you protect as your identity (underlined). If you think of it as simply a focus taken by "your" greater identity, then you will be able to follow what I am saying without feeling puny by contrast, or lost. ....Now: Because your greater identity is aware of its probable existences, you are in matter and out of it at the same time -- in time and out of it. You have a greater identity outside of your context, yet a part of it is inside your context, as you. Your youness is your significance, a focus of awareness, conscious of itself, ...That selfhood jumps in leapfrog fashion over events that it does not want to actualize, and does not admit such experience into its selfhood. Other portions of your greater identity, however, do accept those same events rejected by you, form their own selfhoods. ...When you exercise your right arm, your left arm benefits". pgs 39-44 Now: We will call the basic units of consciousness "CU" -- the letter "C", the letter "U" -- consciousness units. pg 54 The Unknown Reality, volume one, a Seth book The "CU" reminds me of the monads of Leibniz. Some of you will note that the second and third paragraphs are discussing the quantum nature of these "CU". |
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Post by zin on Jun 22, 2017 6:46:07 GMT -5
As far as I understand Seth now, I think you could easily replace emotion with vibration in that quote. Seth talks about how every cell has its own individual consciousness and never loses it even though the cell becomes part of an organ or a body. This applies also to people, groups and societies. A-H would say it's all a matter of co-creation. I actually do think people see thru the script more and more because the population has evolved, the methods of controlling the population somehow are still the same. And so you can see more and more cases where the script is malfunctioning. If you compare your reaction 30 years ago to a news headline and your reaction today to a news headline, do you see any difference? Seth: "There are units of consciousness, then, as there are units of matter. ...The basic unit of consciousness obviously is not physical. It contains within itself innate infinite properties of expansion, development, and organization... It is aware energy, identified within itself as itself, not "personified" but awarized. It is therefore the source of all kinds of consciousness, and the varieties of its activity are infinite. It combines with others of its kind, forming then units of consciousness -- as, mentioned often, atoms and molecules combine.
This basic unit is endowed with unpredictability. That very unpredictability allows for infinite patterns and fulfillments. ...Their nature is the vitalizing force behind everything in your physical universe, and others as well. These units can indeed appear in several places at once, and without going through space, in your terms. Literally now, these basic units of consciousness can be in all places at once. They are in all places at once. They will not be recognized because they will always appear as something else. Of course they move faster than light. There are millions of them in one atom -- millions. Each of these units is aware of the reality of the others, and influences of the others. In your terms these units move forward and backward in time, but they can also move into thresholds of time with which you are not familiar. All probabilities are probed and experienced, and all possible universes created from these units. ...There are systems in which a moment, from your standpoint, is made to endure for the life of a universe. ...there is more creativity and variety in an inner reality than you can ever physically perceive. ...Since these units of consciousness exist at once, they are aware of all the organized self-structures of which they are a part. ...These units grow out of themselves. Since I have told you that in your terms your past, present, and future exist at once, these units are constantly emerging out of your now-point from both the future and the past. (Talks some about Jane's probable selves, note sdp). ...The larger picture is somewhat more difficult -- by far -- to express. ...I am saying I am now ready to lead you beyond those necessary preliminaries. All matter is based on the units mentioned, with their unpredictability and their propensity for exploring all probabilities. Even your atomic structure , then, is poised between probabilities. if this is true, then obviously "you" are aware of only one small probable portion of yourself -- and this portion you protect as your identity (underlined). If you think of it as simply a focus taken by "your" greater identity, then you will be able to follow what I am saying without feeling puny by contrast, or lost. ....Now: Because your greater identity is aware of its probable existences, you are in matter and out of it at the same time -- in time and out of it. You have a greater identity outside of your context, yet a part of it is inside your context, as you. Your youness is your significance, a focus of awareness, conscious of itself, ...That selfhood jumps in leapfrog fashion over events that it does not want to actualize, and does not admit such experience into its selfhood. Other portions of your greater identity, however, do accept those same events rejected by you, form their own selfhoods. ...When you exercise your right arm, your left arm benefits". pgs 39-44 Now: We will call the basic units of consciousness "CU" -- the letter "C", the letter "U" -- consciousness units. pg 54 The Unknown Reality, volume one, a Seth book The "CU" reminds me of the monads of Leibniz. Some of you will note that the second and third paragraphs are discussing the quantum nature of these "CU". Re: the bolded parts.. I was reading a I. S. de Lubicz book.. below is a 'conversation between heart and brain' from it (heart starts first).. Have you seen any similarities in Seth? or, does Seth talk about 'soul' at all? "You, O brain, think thus because you always analyze and compare; you judge the world by yourself. But in Nature there is no good or evil, only attraction and repulsion. Those are the forces which the essential Fire obeys, and they are elementary, not rational." "What! Is the Spirit not its own master?" "No. Once caught in the net of matter, it must obey the necessities of the realm in which it is incarnate, just as the ovum, once fertilized by the sperm, must infallibly follow through the phases of gestation of its species." "So it is a prisoner in its own substance?" "Yes, until the union is dissolved; then it is delivered from its bonds, and can resume life by uniting with whatever in that substance has developed an affinity with it." "But this could only happen by means of death." "It is a death which happens innumerable times in your life, every time a piece of matter becomes your own living flesh." "What do you call that which is bound like this?" "The sensitive soul." "What! Is the soul made of matter?" "No, but it appears to be because it always requires a substance as its vehicle." (now the writer continues) So, though the Spiritual Principle is simple, this soul we are talking of is complex, because it is the agglomeration of all the vital tendencies which have, so to speak, been magnetically patterned around the original 'spiritual nucleus' (the chromosome, as it were) in the course of its peregrinations through material existence. This complex soul, to give it an exact name, was called in Egypt the Ka, and its different aspects will be described later. Each aspect of the Ka strives to assert itself, and tries to monopolize the will to its own advantage. Only by becoming conscious of the interplay of these diverse elements can one realize oneself as a complete and harmonious individual. That is the aim of human existence. It is an absolute necessity for every individual life before returning to its divine source to attain total consciousness of the matter in which it is incarnate; for that which has once departed from Unity cannot find eternal life without this resurrection, that is, without total realization. ..... |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jun 22, 2017 9:19:09 GMT -5
Seth: "There are units of consciousness, then, as there are units of matter. ...The basic unit of consciousness obviously is not physical. It contains within itself innate infinite properties of expansion, development, and organization... It is aware energy, identified within itself as itself, not "personified" but awarized. It is therefore the source of all kinds of consciousness, and the varieties of its activity are infinite. It combines with others of its kind, forming then units of consciousness -- as, mentioned often, atoms and molecules combine.
This basic unit is endowed with unpredictability. That very unpredictability allows for infinite patterns and fulfillments. ...Their nature is the vitalizing force behind everything in your physical universe, and others as well. These units can indeed appear in several places at once, and without going through space, in your terms. Literally now, these basic units of consciousness can be in all places at once. They are in all places at once. They will not be recognized because they will always appear as something else. Of course they move faster than light. There are millions of them in one atom -- millions. Each of these units is aware of the reality of the others, and influences of the others. In your terms these units move forward and backward in time, but they can also move into thresholds of time with which you are not familiar. All probabilities are probed and experienced, and all possible universes created from these units. ...There are systems in which a moment, from your standpoint, is made to endure for the life of a universe. ...there is more creativity and variety in an inner reality than you can ever physically perceive. ...Since these units of consciousness exist at once, they are aware of all the organized self-structures of which they are a part. ...These units grow out of themselves. Since I have told you that in your terms your past, present, and future exist at once, these units are constantly emerging out of your now-point from both the future and the past. (Talks some about Jane's probable selves, note sdp). ...The larger picture is somewhat more difficult -- by far -- to express. ...I am saying I am now ready to lead you beyond those necessary preliminaries. All matter is based on the units mentioned, with their unpredictability and their propensity for exploring all probabilities. Even your atomic structure , then, is poised between probabilities. if this is true, then obviously "you" are aware of only one small probable portion of yourself -- and this portion you protect as your identity (underlined). If you think of it as simply a focus taken by "your" greater identity, then you will be able to follow what I am saying without feeling puny by contrast, or lost. ....Now: Because your greater identity is aware of its probable existences, you are in matter and out of it at the same time -- in time and out of it. You have a greater identity outside of your context, yet a part of it is inside your context, as you. Your youness is your significance, a focus of awareness, conscious of itself, ...That selfhood jumps in leapfrog fashion over events that it does not want to actualize, and does not admit such experience into its selfhood. Other portions of your greater identity, however, do accept those same events rejected by you, form their own selfhoods. ...When you exercise your right arm, your left arm benefits". pgs 39-44 Now: We will call the basic units of consciousness "CU" -- the letter "C", the letter "U" -- consciousness units. pg 54 The Unknown Reality, volume one, a Seth book The "CU" reminds me of the monads of Leibniz. Some of you will note that the second and third paragraphs are discussing the quantum nature of these "CU". Re: the bolded parts.. I was reading a I. S. de Lubicz book.. below is a 'conversation between heart and brain' from it (heart starts first).. Have you seen any similarities in Seth? or, does Seth talk about 'soul' at all? "You, O brain, think thus because you always analyze and compare; you judge the world by yourself. But in Nature there is no good or evil, only attraction and repulsion. Those are the forces which the essential Fire obeys, and they are elementary, not rational." "What! Is the Spirit not its own master?" "No. Once caught in the net of matter, it must obey the necessities of the realm in which it is incarnate, just as the ovum, once fertilized by the sperm, must infallibly follow through the phases of gestation of its species." "So it is a prisoner in its own substance?" "Yes, until the union is dissolved; then it is delivered from its bonds, and can resume life by uniting with whatever in that substance has developed an affinity with it." "But this could only happen by means of death." "It is a death which happens innumerable times in your life, every time a piece of matter becomes your own living flesh." "What do you call that which is bound like this?" "The sensitive soul." "What! Is the soul made of matter?" "No, but it appears to be because it always requires a substance as its vehicle." (now the writer continues) So, though the Spiritual Principle is simple, this soul we are talking of is complex, because it is the agglomeration of all the vital tendencies which have, so to speak, been magnetically patterned around the original 'spiritual nucleus' (the chromosome, as it were) in the course of its peregrinations through material existence. This complex soul, to give it an exact name, was called in Egypt the Ka, and its different aspects will be described later. Each aspect of the Ka strives to assert itself, and tries to monopolize the will to its own advantage. Only by becoming conscious of the interplay of these diverse elements can one realize oneself as a complete and harmonious individual. That is the aim of human existence. It is an absolute necessity for every individual life before returning to its divine source to attain total consciousness of the matter in which it is incarnate; for that which has once departed from Unity cannot find eternal life without this resurrection, that is, without total realization. ..... I haven't read a lot of Seth in many years, so I can't speak specifically to your question. But in a sense I would say that all Seth talks about is the soul. Seth is hard to talk about because for him you, in a real sense, erase time from the equation. (Here's a sense of the complication, I remember Seth talking about a ~soul~ incarnating as more than one ~person~ in the same time-frame). So soul is not ~evolving~ in the usual sense. When one ~dies~ that aspect of consciousness moves to another ~arena~ of experience. It all sort of has to do with one's focus. I'd better stop there. |
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Post by Reefs on Jun 23, 2017 0:41:14 GMT -5
Seth: "There are units of consciousness, then, as there are units of matter. ...The basic unit of consciousness obviously is not physical. It contains within itself innate infinite properties of expansion, development, and organization... It is aware energy, identified within itself as itself, not "personified" but awarized. It is therefore the source of all kinds of consciousness, and the varieties of its activity are infinite. It combines with others of its kind, forming then units of consciousness -- as, mentioned often, atoms and molecules combine.
This basic unit is endowed with unpredictability. That very unpredictability allows for infinite patterns and fulfillments. ...Their nature is the vitalizing force behind everything in your physical universe, and others as well. These units can indeed appear in several places at once, and without going through space, in your terms. Literally now, these basic units of consciousness can be in all places at once. They are in all places at once. They will not be recognized because they will always appear as something else. Of course they move faster than light. There are millions of them in one atom -- millions. Each of these units is aware of the reality of the others, and influences of the others. In your terms these units move forward and backward in time, but they can also move into thresholds of time with which you are not familiar. All probabilities are probed and experienced, and all possible universes created from these units. ...There are systems in which a moment, from your standpoint, is made to endure for the life of a universe. ...there is more creativity and variety in an inner reality than you can ever physically perceive. ...Since these units of consciousness exist at once, they are aware of all the organized self-structures of which they are a part. ...These units grow out of themselves. Since I have told you that in your terms your past, present, and future exist at once, these units are constantly emerging out of your now-point from both the future and the past. (Talks some about Jane's probable selves, note sdp). ...The larger picture is somewhat more difficult -- by far -- to express. ...I am saying I am now ready to lead you beyond those necessary preliminaries. All matter is based on the units mentioned, with their unpredictability and their propensity for exploring all probabilities. Even your atomic structure , then, is poised between probabilities. if this is true, then obviously "you" are aware of only one small probable portion of yourself -- and this portion you protect as your identity (underlined). If you think of it as simply a focus taken by "your" greater identity, then you will be able to follow what I am saying without feeling puny by contrast, or lost. ....Now: Because your greater identity is aware of its probable existences, you are in matter and out of it at the same time -- in time and out of it. You have a greater identity outside of your context, yet a part of it is inside your context, as you. Your youness is your significance, a focus of awareness, conscious of itself, ...That selfhood jumps in leapfrog fashion over events that it does not want to actualize, and does not admit such experience into its selfhood. Other portions of your greater identity, however, do accept those same events rejected by you, form their own selfhoods. ...When you exercise your right arm, your left arm benefits". pgs 39-44 Now: We will call the basic units of consciousness "CU" -- the letter "C", the letter "U" -- consciousness units. pg 54 The Unknown Reality, volume one, a Seth book The "CU" reminds me of the monads of Leibniz. Some of you will note that the second and third paragraphs are discussing the quantum nature of these "CU". Re: the bolded parts.. I was reading a I. S. de Lubicz book.. below is a 'conversation between heart and brain' from it (heart starts first).. Have you seen any similarities in Seth? or, does Seth talk about 'soul' at all? "You, O brain, think thus because you always analyze and compare; you judge the world by yourself. But in Nature there is no good or evil, only attraction and repulsion. Those are the forces which the essential Fire obeys, and they are elementary, not rational." "What! Is the Spirit not its own master?" "No. Once caught in the net of matter, it must obey the necessities of the realm in which it is incarnate, just as the ovum, once fertilized by the sperm, must infallibly follow through the phases of gestation of its species." "So it is a prisoner in its own substance?" "Yes, until the union is dissolved; then it is delivered from its bonds, and can resume life by uniting with whatever in that substance has developed an affinity with it." "But this could only happen by means of death." "It is a death which happens innumerable times in your life, every time a piece of matter becomes your own living flesh." "What do you call that which is bound like this?" "The sensitive soul." "What! Is the soul made of matter?" "No, but it appears to be because it always requires a substance as its vehicle." (now the writer continues) So, though the Spiritual Principle is simple, this soul we are talking of is complex, because it is the agglomeration of all the vital tendencies which have, so to speak, been magnetically patterned around the original 'spiritual nucleus' (the chromosome, as it were) in the course of its peregrinations through material existence. This complex soul, to give it an exact name, was called in Egypt the Ka, and its different aspects will be described later. Each aspect of the Ka strives to assert itself, and tries to monopolize the will to its own advantage. Only by becoming conscious of the interplay of these diverse elements can one realize oneself as a complete and harmonious individual. That is the aim of human existence. It is an absolute necessity for every individual life before returning to its divine source to attain total consciousness of the matter in which it is incarnate; for that which has once departed from Unity cannot find eternal life without this resurrection, that is, without total realization. ..... Well, Seth talks about entities and personalities. An Entity consists of numerous personalities. And a personality has an inner ego and an outer ego. The outer ego is what we would call ego. The inner ego is what A-H would call Inner Being and what others usually call soul. The outer senses (our 5 senses) belong to the outer ego, the inner senses (intuition, clairvoyance etc.) belong to the inner ego. The inner ego constructs the outer ego according to the requirements of the particular plane of existence it wants to incarnate. Essentially, our waking world is the realm of the outer ego and the brain. Our dream world is the world of the inner ego and the mind. |
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Post by Reefs on Jun 24, 2017 3:13:17 GMT -5
Ego fascination
Seth: Humanity's so-called supreme blossom is the human ego, and this is at times a poisoning blossom indeed. As I have said before, there is nothing wrong with the ego. The point however remains that man became so fascinated with the conscious ego that he ignored the part of himself that made the ego possible, and ignored the part of himself that gives to the ego the very powers of which he is so consciously proud. There is behind the ego a stronger and more vivid self. There is even a more self-conscious self of which he remains in ignorance.
(Session 26)
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Post by Reefs on Jun 24, 2017 3:19:55 GMT -5
Inner data is real and reliable
Seth: In the same manner that psychological experience is real and vivid and yet cannot be seen or touched or examined in your laboratories, so is inner data from the inner senses vivid, though it cannot be seen or touched. Such inner data makes its impression upon the physical brain and changes the personality as does any experience. In many cases such inner experience is retained in your memory cells. Data from the inner senses is vivid, it is reliable, it makes an impression upon the conscious individual. It is your insistence upon translating this material into physical terms that causes your difficulty. You do not insist upon seeing, feeling or touching a psychological experience, and yet you do not say that a psychological experience does not exist because you cannot hold it in both hands. Why then do you insist that an inner experience such as telepathy or premonition does not exist because you cannot hold it in both hands? And yet in many instances such cases can be corroborated by others in a manner in which a purely psychological experience cannot be corroborated. There is no way of measuring the inner experience, or the psychological experience rather, of someone who has lost a friend in death, but you do not deny that such an experience exists.
(Session 26)
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Post by Reefs on Jun 24, 2017 3:25:24 GMT -5
You create your own physical environment
Seth: We know that our so-called tables are not solid. Even your science knows this now, and yet your eyes see the table as solid. Face up to it, my dear lovelies: Your senses lie. The table is a conglomeration of quickly-moving atoms and molecules but you see it as a table, and you see it as solid. Your senses are perceptors of a camouflage physical world which is created by the inner self... You are dealing with camouflage. Your outside senses are perceptors of camouflage, and your table which you rest your arms upon is not solid. This does not mean that your arms will suddenly fall to the floor. It does mean that even your science is discovering the existence of the inside world, which it will be unable to deny much longer. Because I say that you create your physical universe in the same manner and as automatically and as unself-consciously as you create with your breath a pattern of steam upon a glass pane, this does not mean that you create all that is. It merely means that you create your own physical environment.
(Session 26)
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Post by Reefs on Jun 25, 2017 8:09:53 GMT -5
The dream of an entity
Seth: Individual life, or the life of the present individual, could be legitimately compared to the dream of an entity. While the individual suffers and enjoys his given number of years, these years are but a flash to the entity. The entity is concerned with these years in the same manner that you are concerned with your dreams. As you give inner purpose and organization to your dreams, and as you obtain insight and satisfaction from your dreams though they involve only a part of your life, so the entity to some extent directs and gives purpose and organization to his personalities during their existence. And so does the entity obtain insights and satisfactions from his existing personalities, although no one takes up all of his own attentions. And as your dreams originate with you, rise from you, attain a seeming independence and have their ending with you, so do an entity’s personalities arise from him, attain various degrees of independence, and return to him while never leaving him for an instant.The planes represent the various levels upon which the personalities operate. The entity itself does not have to keep constant check on its personalities, because in each personality there is an inner self-conscious part that knows its origin.
(Session 28)
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Post by zin on Jun 27, 2017 22:01:50 GMT -5
Re: the bolded parts.. I was reading a I. S. de Lubicz book.. below is a 'conversation between heart and brain' from it (heart starts first).. Have you seen any similarities in Seth? or, does Seth talk about 'soul' at all? ........ Well, Seth talks about entities and personalities. An Entity consists of numerous personalities. And a personality has an inner ego and an outer ego. The outer ego is what we would call ego. The inner ego is what A-H would call Inner Being and what others usually call soul. The outer senses (our 5 senses) belong to the outer ego, the inner senses (intuition, clairvoyance etc.) belong to the inner ego. The inner ego constructs the outer ego according to the requirements of the particular plane of existence it wants to incarnate. Essentially, our waking world is the realm of the outer ego and the brain. Our dream world is the world of the inner ego and the mind. Thank you for the explanation. I got curious about Seth books and found 'the Nature of Personal Reality' online. It is not the first book but I hope this won't be a problem in understanding. I read very little, liked it, liked their telling of life events, too (ie how they decided not to run away from a flood). I come across mentioning of soul frequently. I will put a little quote, I may return here after I read some more chapters. "You are aware, alert, and participating in many more realities than you know as your soul expresses itself through you. That consciousness of your usual daylight hours, the ego consciousness, rises up like a flower from the ground of the 'underneath', the unconscious bed of your own reality. Though you are not aware of it, this ego itself emerges, then falls back again into the unconscious, from which another ego then rises as a new bloom from the springtime earth."
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Post by Reefs on Jun 29, 2017 23:50:58 GMT -5
I haven't read a lot of Seth in many years, so I can't speak specifically to your question. But in a sense I would say that all Seth talks about is the soul. Seth is hard to talk about because for him you, in a real sense, erase time from the equation. (Here's a sense of the complication, I remember Seth talking about a ~soul~ incarnating as more than one ~person~ in the same time-frame). So soul is not ~evolving~ in the usual sense. When one ~dies~ that aspect of consciousness moves to another ~arena~ of experience. It all sort of has to do with one's focus. I'd better stop there. Thank you. For the underlined I thought, can it be similar to different 'roles' one has in life.. being a sister, mother, daughter, etc simultaneously.. We think all belong to one person but there's the many I's concept, too.. I just started to read a Seth book, I guess I will get some idea soon. Yes, Seth actually uses that analogy. And as arbitrary as those different roles are, so are the different parts of the soul or personality or entity. Making such distinctions is just for convenience sake. In reality, it's all one. There's no real dividing line between inner ego, subconscious and outer ego either. |
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