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Post by lolly on Feb 13, 2016 6:25:12 GMT -5
Very well articulated interview with Sam Harris
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Post by hicksetta on Feb 13, 2016 15:00:17 GMT -5
I can't help to think, everytime I see and hear Sam Harris: "Too bad I'm not a director. But if I would be, I would cast Sam Harris for the role of Mephisto in Goethe's play Faust. He would be perfect in that."
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Post by hicksetta on Feb 13, 2016 19:10:04 GMT -5
And IF I would be a director (once again), directing a new version of Goethe's play Faust, in a modern way, I would cast Stephen Fry as Doctor Faustus. Why? Just because he would be good in that role and I promise that Gretchen will be a lovely male character. For the sake of being considered as a modern director only, of course. I'm vain, please forgive me. Stephen Fry, Big Think Interview: www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5g8BGelLWU |
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Post by lolly on Feb 14, 2016 0:52:30 GMT -5
And IF I would be a director (once again), directing a new version of Goethe's play Faust, in a modern way, I would cast Stephen Fry as Doctor Faustus. Why? Just because he would be good in that role and I promise that Gretchen will be a lovely male character. For the sake of being considered as a modern director only, of course. I'm vain, please forgive me. Stephen Fry, Big Think Interview: www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5g8BGelLWUInteresting, but the Sam Harris interview is interesting because where he is on the atheist circuit along with Dawkins et al. he explains his own brand of Buddhist mindfulness-cum-non-dual spirituality. |
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Post by hicksetta on Feb 14, 2016 15:10:51 GMT -5
Lolly, in my point of view there is no such thing as "buddhist mindfullness atheistic spirituality". And here is why:
1.) Who ever deals in "spirituality" is not an atheist, obviously. Because a-theism means: NOT dealing in theism at all any more. And theism and spirituality are interrelated. Theism is defined as dealing with the so called spirit-realm. Don't you think so too?
2.) Buddhism already has become a religon. Therefore there can not be something like an atheist buddhist. That is a contradiction in terms. One either is a buddhist OR an atheist, but not both at the same time.
3.) Atheism is a ridiculous position, IMHO. Because there are no true real atheists who where born and raised in us-america at the time Sam Harris were born.
4.) To be an atheist, one has to know theism. You can only be against something you know about. You can not oppose something you don't know. And when one knows theism, one is not an atheist anymore. One is an anti-theist.
5.) Calling oneself an atheist is as if one calles oneself a non-drinker. There is no such thing as a non-drinker. Everybody drinks and must drink because that is neccessary to sustain the body-mind.
6.) Existentialism is a better term for someone who realy is not, in no way, shape or form concerned with theism and never was. Those people are rare but they do exist. But certainly not in us-america as being an adult right now. Because us-america does not have (full blown) adult existentialists yet.
7.) Atheism actually confirms the existence of theism and pretends to oppose it while it just denys it's validity for ones own life.
Know what I mean?
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Post by hicksetta on Feb 15, 2016 17:15:26 GMT -5
And to make it as plain as possible, that existentialism, in MY definition, has very little to do with what Jean Paul Sartre came up with. Once I heard through the grapewine that he called for a cathlic priest as he was on his death-bed. That says it all, I think.
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Post by hicksetta on Feb 15, 2016 17:33:22 GMT -5
The difference between an a-theist and an anti-theist is, in MY definition: 1.) Atheism is close to existentialism. Someone who does not know much about theism can be considered as being an atheist. But that requires a relatively pure spirit. Like, for example, Ricky Gervais is. (See the link below). 2.) Anti-theism is about knowing theism pretty well and being against it by KNOWING what it does. And therefore utterly, strongly opposing it. Anti is a much stronger term. Ricky Gervais on Atheism ......this is funny: www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBdhnmnLnUc |
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Post by anja on Feb 17, 2016 15:47:49 GMT -5
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Post by anja on Feb 17, 2016 16:08:45 GMT -5
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Post by lolly on Feb 27, 2016 4:14:38 GMT -5
Lolly, in my point of view there is no such thing as "buddhist mindfullness atheistic spirituality". And here is why: 1.) Who ever deals in "spirituality" is not an atheist, obviously. Because a-theism means: NOT dealing in theism at all any more. And theism and spirituality are interrelated. Theism is defined as dealing with the so called spirit-realm. Don't you think so too? 2.) Buddhism already has become a religon. Therefore there can not be something like an atheist buddhist. That is a contradiction in terms. One either is a buddhist OR an atheist, but not both at the same time. 3.) Atheism is a ridiculous position, IMHO. Because there are no true real atheists who where born and raised in us-america at the time Sam Harris were born. 4.) To be an atheist, one has to know theism. You can only be against something you know about. You can not oppose something you don't know. And when one knows theism, one is not an atheist anymore. One is an anti-theist. 5.) Calling oneself an atheist is as if one calles oneself a non-drinker. There is no such thing as a non-drinker. Everybody drinks and must drink because that is neccessary to sustain the body-mind. 6.) Existentialism is a better term for someone who realy is not, in no way, shape or form concerned with theism and never was. Those people are rare but they do exist. But certainly not in us-america as being an adult right now. Because us-america does not have (full blown) adult existentialists yet. 7.) Atheism actually confirms the existence of theism and pretends to oppose it while it just denys it's validity for ones own life. Know what I mean?. Yes, the atheist can practice things that are called 'spiritual'. Mindfulness requires no God and it really only means to be aware, be conscious, pay attention. Theism = the belief in deities. Buddhism is a religion, but not theism. There is no God. Buddhists have made an idol worship out of it, though. An atheist simply doesn't believe in any deity, which includes idol worship. A 'non-drinker' does not partake of alcohol. That's not necessarily anti-alcohol, but it can be. Existentialism is fundamentally atheistic: Sartre described existentialism as "the attempt to draw all the consequences from a position of consistent atheism." (wiki) We can easily confirm the existence of theism by all the people who worship imaginary Gods and idols. We can deny that just as we deny Santa Claus. Exactly, an atheist necessarily denies the validity of theism. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2016 18:25:53 GMT -5
And to make it as plain as possible, that existentialism, in MY definition, has very little to do with what Jean Paul Sartre came up with. Once I heard through the grapewine that he called for a cathlic priest as he was on his death-bed. That says it all, I think. It says what you want to believe. It's fairly well-known that the grapewines that speak of Catholic priests arriving at the bedside of the worlds great thinkers as they take their last breaths, are really just beanstalks, grown to deceive future generations into believing that the prayers and absolution, given directly by the Catholic Church, is still necessary. |
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Post by anja on Aug 7, 2016 6:41:02 GMT -5
And to make it as plain as possible, that existentialism, in MY definition, has very little to do with what Jean Paul Sartre came up with. Once I heard through the grapewine that he called for a cathlic priest as he was on his death-bed. That says it all, I think. It says what you want to believe. It's fairly well-known that the grapewines that speak of Catholic priests arriving at the bedside of the worlds great thinkers as they take their last breaths, are really just beanstalks, grown to deceive future generations into believing that the prayers and absolution, given directly by the Catholic Church, is still necessary. Good to point that out, Bakk. But I guess what Hicksetta was driving at is this: Sartre was not a real existentialist, because on his death-bed he called for a cathlic priest. I don't think Hicksetta wanted to promote cathlic christianity over exitentialism, just the opposite. Maybe she wanted to point out that Sartre was a hypocrit. Hanging out with Simone but never been interested in a sexual relationship with her and being attracted to much younger woman...etc. Just another jesuit modder-flocker that Sartre, stirring the pot, being too long into sovjet communism...yadda-yadda...I think is what Hicksetta wanted to say but didn't. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2016 6:55:28 GMT -5
It says what you want to believe. It's fairly well-known that the grapewines that speak of Catholic priests arriving at the bedside of the worlds great thinkers as they take their last breaths, are really just beanstalks, grown to deceive future generations into believing that the prayers and absolution, given directly by the Catholic Church, is still necessary. But I guess what Hicksetta was driving at is this: Sartre was not a real existentialist, because on his death-bed he called for a cathlic priest. I don't think Hicksetta wanted to promote cathlic christianity over exitentialism, just the opposite. Maybe she wanted to point out that Sartre was a hypocrit. Hanging out with Simone but never been interested in a sexual relationship with her and being attracted to much younger woman...etc. Just another jesuit modder-flocker that Sartre, stirring the pot, being too long into sovjet communism...yadda-yadda...I think is what Hicksetta wanted to say but didn't. Even though it was missed. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2016 6:57:40 GMT -5
Without a God-concept how could Atheisism be real? Both are simply beliefs that require believers thus clouding-reality's natural-beauty.  |
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Post by anja on Aug 16, 2016 16:57:03 GMT -5
"Name?"
"Sam. Sam Harris."
"Okay. So, you're experienced in acting?"
"No."
"Why are you here, then?"
"My guru said I would be good in that role. Mephisto I can do while sleeping, she said."
"Okay. Please performe now."
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"He's a moron."
"Yeah, but he looks just like Mephisto."
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