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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 10:34:34 GMT -5
I am directly perceiving and concluding, but you are speculating from what you have seen and concluding. You are seeing the moon and speculating that it's dangling in the sky, but I am not speculating that, I am simply perceiving and saying that moon is appearing to me. Why do you bring some kind of world which you have never seen in your life time? It's NOT speculation. It is seen dangling in the sky because that is your experience. You are not getting it. Are you perceiving the actual moon or are you perceiving the image of the moon? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 10:35:22 GMT -5
What?  My brain creates the moon now? You've just completely gone against everything you have previously said. I don't have a problem with the idea of an image being created in the brain, I am surprised to hear you say it. So the inside is 'inside my brain' and the outside is 'outside my brain'? You believe that you are perceiving through the eyes, right? If so, your brain is receiving those perception through your eyes,right? That's what I said your brain is creating the perception. Are you perceiving the actual moon or are you perceiving the image of the moon? What did you know about brains when you were five years old? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 10:35:46 GMT -5
I am directly perceiving and concluding, but you are speculating from what you have seen and concluding. You are seeing the moon and speculating that it's dangling in the sky, but I am not speculating that, I am simply perceiving and saying that moon is appearing to me. Why do you bring some kind of world which you have never seen in your life time? And the image of the moon is created in your brain is what you are also saying. This is the only reason I can't stop liking you, you know Andrew? |
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Post by andrew on Sept 17, 2016 10:36:00 GMT -5
What? My brain creates the moon now? You've just completely gone against everything you have previously said. I don't have a problem with the idea of an image being created in the brain, I am surprised to hear you say it. So the inside is 'inside my brain' and the outside is 'outside my brain'? You believe that you are perceiving through the eyes, right? If so, your brain is receiving those perception through your eyes,right? That's what I said your brain is creating the perception. Are you perceiving the actual moon or are you perceiving the image of the moon? Okay, so now we are having a proper relative conversation. My experience is of the moon in the sky but the image is formed in the brain, yes. Do babies interact and respond to the love of their mother? You didn't get back to me on that one. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 10:36:07 GMT -5
It's NOT speculation. It is seen dangling in the sky because that is your experience. You are not getting it. Are you perceiving the actual moon or are you perceiving the image of the moon? I see the moon. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 10:37:11 GMT -5
You believe that you are perceiving through the eyes, right? If so, your brain is receiving those perception through your eyes,right? That's what I said your brain is creating the perception. Are you perceiving the actual moon or are you perceiving the image of the moon? What did you know about brains when you were five years old? You start to raise foolish questions to me because you know you can't answer and If you answer you know what kind of trap you would fall on, Did I understand you correctly Satch? |
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Post by andrew on Sept 17, 2016 10:37:14 GMT -5
I would describe it as sticking to the key point. And that would be you aggrandizing yourself as a follow-up to dismissing me. But you see, you have no foundation for your opinions, where I can offer objective evidence of how I kept the dialog on point. At one juncture, you very specifically mistated the "two truths" you claim are oppostional and yet true at the same time. Pointing that out to you was, quite literally, keeping the dialog "on point".  Can you link to something specific along those lines you wrote in that dialog as foundation for your opinons? I can for my opinions.  I haven't got a clue what you are talking about but it strikes me as one big lawyer obfuscation tactic that I've seen a thousand times. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 10:38:50 GMT -5
You believe that you are perceiving through the eyes, right? If so, your brain is receiving those perception through your eyes,right? That's what I said your brain is creating the perception. Are you perceiving the actual moon or are you perceiving the image of the moon? Okay, so now we are having a proper relative conversation. My experience is of the moon in the sky but the image is formed in the brain, yes.Do babies interact and respond to the love of their mother? You didn't get back to me on that one. That image is what you continued to look ever since you born,right? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 10:39:46 GMT -5
Are you perceiving the actual moon or are you perceiving the image of the moon? I see the moon. But you said couple of minutes ago that moon is dangling in the sky, that means you are seeing moon outside,right? |
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Post by laughter on Sept 17, 2016 10:40:40 GMT -5
And that would be you aggrandizing yourself as a follow-up to dismissing me. But you see, you have no foundation for your opinions, where I can offer objective evidence of how I kept the dialog on point. At one juncture, you very specifically mistated the "two truths" you claim are oppostional and yet true at the same time. Pointing that out to you was, quite literally, keeping the dialog "on point". Can you link to something specific along those lines you wrote in that dialog as foundation for your opinons? I can for my opinions. but it strikes me as one big lawyer obfuscation tactic that I've seen a thousand times. Ahhh, you see, that's why I start linking when the giraffes get to their overthinking.  Here's the " clue" for you, but that it was only two hours ago seems to suggest that you're not even reading what I'm writing.  |
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Post by andrew on Sept 17, 2016 10:41:40 GMT -5
Okay, so now we are having a proper relative conversation. My experience is of the moon in the sky but the image is formed in the brain, yes.Do babies interact and respond to the love of their mother? You didn't get back to me on that one. That image is what you continued to look ever since you born,right? I don't look for the image of the moon in my brain, if I want to see the moon I look to the sky. But you know that already. The brain seems to work in such way that we don't have to think about how images are formed if we want to see something. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 10:42:07 GMT -5
What did you know about brains when you were five years old? You start to raise foolish questions to me because you know you can't answer and If you answer you know what kind of trap you would fall on, Did I understand you correctly Satch? Yes I can answer and I will and I'm not going to accept for one microsecond your strategy of saying I am dodging. There is absolutely no dodging on my part. You mentioned brains did you not. Is that an appearance brain. You have some knowledge that brains process images. Were you born with this knowledge? No you learnt it. Now that knowledge is part of that theory. So brains process images how do you know that the image is not from a real moon? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 10:42:40 GMT -5
That image is what you continued to look ever since you born,right? I don't look for the image of the moon in my brain, if I want to see the moon I look to the sky. But you know that already. The brain seems to work in such way that we don't have to think about how images are formed if we want to see something. You are looking at the actual moon or image of the moon? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 10:43:31 GMT -5
But you said couple of minutes ago that moon is dangling in the sky, that means you are seeing moon outside,right? Yes it's in the sky about a quarter of a million miles away. That's pretty much outside! |
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Post by andrew on Sept 17, 2016 10:43:35 GMT -5
I haven't got a clue what you are talking about but it strikes me as one big lawyer obfuscation tactic that I've seen a thousand times. Ahhh, you see, that's why I start linking when the giraffes get to their overthinking. Here's the " clue" for you, but that it was only two hours ago seems to suggest that you're not even reading what I'm writing. This pattern that you experience sometimes is such a crazy pattern. I know because I have experienced crazy patterns too. |
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My brain creates the moon now? You've just completely gone against everything you have previously said. I don't have a problem with the idea of an image being created in the brain, I am surprised to hear you say it. 
