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Post by enigma on Sept 17, 2016 10:18:00 GMT -5
Go for it. It's been a while since we had some fun giraffe pics. I'm asking you for the link please! And I'm asking you to post a giraffe pic.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 10:18:43 GMT -5
Firstly I'm asking gopal a question which you've hijacked and secondly I ain't talking about no pointers. Well, thirdly you're the one responding to me so the complaint about hijacking is just whining and fourthly if you don't think that "appearances in consciousness" doesn't involve a pointing then what you wrote here is pure projection and you've contradicted what you wrote here. Because if "appearances in consciousness" doesn't reference a pointer, then for you it's just intellectual mind-play that you think you can understand. It's not hijacking either, it's a discussion forum and you are free to intrude wherever you want.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 10:19:57 GMT -5
No it is not my experience that I am reading an image from my brain. That's what I am saying you are reading from your inner world,right? Let's assume there is a outer world, ok? Where are you seeing the moon? In your inner world or outer world? That's just a concept you are creating. It is my experience and yours that I read from a screen and that the moon appears to be in the sky.
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Post by andrew on Sept 17, 2016 10:20:24 GMT -5
Babies doesn't speculate that's what it doesn't know anything the world which you and Satch have built secretly. Okay good, we agree that babies dont speculate. Do they interact and respond? For example do they respond to the love of their mother?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 10:20:48 GMT -5
Well, thirdly you're the one responding to me so the complaint about hijacking is just whining and fourthly if you don't think that "appearances in consciousness" doesn't involve a pointing then what you wrote here is pure projection and you've contradicted what you wrote here. Because if "appearances in consciousness" doesn't reference a pointer, then for you it's just intellectual mind-play that you think you can understand. Drama Queen This is the over projection from side. You are not paying to attention to what he says and reporting that he is performing the drama. It's very clearly from your side. Anyone who continue to follow the argument can easily discern this.
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Post by andrew on Sept 17, 2016 10:21:33 GMT -5
right, 'individual' is the key word. Asking someone about their nightly dreams just shows that the askefr believes in a someone that has nightly dreams lol. He believes the dream is created by Consciousness, appearing to Consciousness and being experienced by Consciousness lol. Lol in the moment the question is asked he believes in an individual that has nightly dreams.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 10:21:44 GMT -5
That's what I am saying you are reading from your inner world,right? Let's assume there is a outer world, ok? Where are you seeing the moon? In your inner world or outer world? That's just a concept you are creating. It is my experience and yours that I read from a screen and that the moon appears to be in the sky. I am not creating the concepts, you are creating the concepts, Just pay closer attention and answer my question. Where are you looking at the moon? Inner or Outer ? Where?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 10:22:12 GMT -5
He believes the dream is created by Consciousness, appearing to Consciousness and being experienced by Consciousness lol. Lol in the moment the question is asked he believes in an individual that has nightly dreams. Individual doesn't have nightly dream Consciousness has.
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Post by andrew on Sept 17, 2016 10:22:38 GMT -5
I'm asking you for the link please! And I'm asking you to post a giraffe pic. I could do but it would be more fun to show you that you are wrong.
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Post by andrew on Sept 17, 2016 10:23:55 GMT -5
That's just a concept you are creating. It is my experience and yours that I read from a screen and that the moon appears to be in the sky. I am not creating the concepts, you are creating the concepts, Just pay closer attention and answer my question. Where are you looking at the moon? Inner or Outer ? Where? Inside or outside of what?
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Post by laughter on Sept 17, 2016 10:24:25 GMT -5
When I say nothing has been said, I mean the conversation has been a bunch of obfuscation and distraction. Right, you're dismissing what I wrote (and also what you wrote) based on a subjective opinion in order to justify inviting a circular dialog.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 10:24:57 GMT -5
I am not creating the concepts, you are creating the concepts, Just pay closer attention and answer my question. Where are you looking at the moon? Inner or Outer ? Where? Inxide or outside of what? Where does moon appear? Are you seeing the moon which exist outside Or are you seeing the image of the moon which your brain is creating?
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Post by andrew on Sept 17, 2016 10:25:22 GMT -5
Lol in the moment the question is asked he believes in an individual that has nightly dreams. Individual doesn't have nightly dream Consciousness has. That maybe the true absolutely but you continue to ask individuals about their night dreams.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 10:25:52 GMT -5
That's just a concept you are creating. It is my experience and yours that I read from a screen and that the moon appears to be in the sky. I am not creating the concepts, you are creating the concepts, Just pay closer attention and answer my question. Where are you looking at the moon? Inner or Outer ? Where? It's in the sky. How many times do i have to say it.
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Post by laughter on Sept 17, 2016 10:26:06 GMT -5
Well, thirdly you're the one responding to me so the complaint about hijacking is just whining and fourthly if you don't think that "appearances in consciousness" doesn't involve a pointing then what you wrote here is pure projection and you've contradicted what you wrote here. Because if "appearances in consciousness" doesn't reference a pointer, then for you it's just intellectual mind-play that you think you can understand. Drama Queen Really, you think this is dramatic? It's just what's goin' on dude.
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