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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2014 19:46:33 GMT -5
You are a movement and you can be more still or less still but you never disappear. I like the 'mind is movement' idea. Mind is movement...mind can be more still or less still. You appear with mind, therefore you disappear when there is no movement. Death, for example, is the absence of movement, and the absence of you. Now some claim that there is another You that is on which you and mind come and go. That's something else. I'm beginning to think that 'deep sleep' is not a case where there is the absence of movement, but there is a whole lot of stillness. kinda like your post Max.  Mind is but a bunch of thought and when still, invisable. Movement is spotted by the Observor. In action, the Observor dissappears also, so I figure that ego is Observor in my mind, like a Librarian sitting at his/her concierge, looking around at what they're in charge of. Everyone has their own Library; that's what ego fights verbally about. So, in action everything that I Am, including my ego, reveals where I Am at by how complete my expression is. Death absolute, is the end of the device we have become attached-to.(Body,mind,ego) Conciousness remains as it was before we take birth. Deep sleeps are mini-deaths. Meditation on sleep and awakening have revealled some interesting things to me. Forget about what some say(like me) : All must speak from their life experience, not library books or what they've heard. |
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Post by laughter on May 5, 2014 21:29:58 GMT -5
Stillness is an absence of movement. Stillness is also the inherent absence of the resistance 'to' movement. In other words the stillness within movement. Yes! While I wouldn't apply that meaning to sitting meditation -- other than to acknowledge that getting to a still mind can be viewed in terms of decreasing resistance -- it seems to me that there are other situations where this applies. The terms "flow" or "no mind" come to mind. |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2014 22:38:25 GMT -5
Stillness is also the inherent absence of the resistance 'to' movement. In other words the stillness within movement. Yes! While I wouldn't apply that meaning to sitting meditation -- other than to acknowledge that getting to a still mind can be viewed in terms of decreasing resistance -- it seems to me that there are other situations where this applies. The terms "flow" or "no mind" come to mind. I always get a giggle when I here the term "no mind". If mind wasn't there, who's claiming there was 'no mind'?  |
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Post by laughter on May 5, 2014 23:20:53 GMT -5
Yes! While I wouldn't apply that meaning to sitting meditation -- other than to acknowledge that getting to a still mind can be viewed in terms of decreasing resistance -- it seems to me that there are other situations where this applies. The terms "flow" or "no mind" come to mind. I always get a giggle when I here the term "no mind". If mind wasn't there, who's claiming there was 'no mind'?  |
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Post by tzujanli on May 6, 2014 5:26:26 GMT -5
Yes! While I wouldn't apply that meaning to sitting meditation -- other than to acknowledge that getting to a still mind can be viewed in terms of decreasing resistance -- it seems to me that there are other situations where this applies. The terms "flow" or "no mind" come to mind. I always get a giggle when I here the term "no mind". If mind wasn't there, who's claiming there was 'no mind'? The term 'empty mind' is a more appropriate translation, and for the purposes of the conditions for clarity, 'still mind' describes what is actually happening.. suspending thinking, and allowing the openness so the experiencer's relationship with the happening can be felt, from which the totality of the experiencer's existence can understand what 'is happening'.. |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2014 7:45:57 GMT -5
Stillness relinquished his name. And Silence is rarely here.  Ain't that the truth! |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2014 7:46:14 GMT -5
I like the 'mind is movement' idea. Mind is movement...mind can be more still or less still. You appear with mind, therefore you disappear when there is no movement. Death, for example, is the absence of movement, and the absence of you. Now some claim that there is another You that is on which you and mind come and go. That's something else. I'm beginning to think that 'deep sleep' is not a case where there is the absence of movement, but there is a whole lot of stillness. kinda like your post Max. Mind is but a bunch of thought and when still, invisable. Movement is spotted by the Observor. In action, the Observor dissappears also, so I figure that ego is Observor in my mind, like a Librarian sitting at his/her concierge, looking around at what they're in charge of. Everyone has their own Library; that's what ego fights verbally about. So, in action everything that I Am, including my ego, reveals where I Am at by how complete my expression is. Death absolute, is the end of the device we have become attached-to.(Body,mind,ego) Conciousness remains as it was before we take birth. Deep sleeps are mini-deaths. Meditation on sleep and awakening have revealled some interesting things to me. Forget about what some say(like me) : All must speak from their life experience, not library books or what they've heard. Thanks! |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on May 6, 2014 9:38:27 GMT -5
I always get a giggle when I here the term "no mind". If mind wasn't there, who's claiming there was 'no mind'? Literally.....  ......one of my favorite episodes, Spock's Brain. sdp |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2014 12:21:41 GMT -5
I always get a giggle when I here the term "no mind". If mind wasn't there, who's claiming there was 'no mind'? The term 'empty mind' is a more appropriate translation, and for the purposes of the conditions for clarity, 'still mind' describes what is actually happening.. suspending thinking, and allowing the openness so the experiencer's relationship with the happening can be felt, from which the totality of the experiencer's existence can understand what 'is happening'.. Yes, theres really no such thing as 'no mind' or mind coming to an end. There's just the ebb and flow of the apparent veiling of the infinite by mind and the returning to our true nature. |
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Post by laughter on May 7, 2014 1:26:37 GMT -5
The term 'empty mind' is a more appropriate translation, and for the purposes of the conditions for clarity, 'still mind' describes what is actually happening.. suspending thinking, and allowing the openness so the experiencer's relationship with the happening can be felt, from which the totality of the experiencer's existence can understand what 'is happening'.. Yes, theres really no such thing as 'no mind' or mind coming to an end. There's just the ebb and flow of the apparent veiling of the infinite by mind and a returning to our true nature. So fake nature is like a potted plant or astroturf??  |
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Post by laughter on May 7, 2014 10:56:41 GMT -5
Stillness is a nice suggestion. A man artist must consider greatness. Some great work of art, for if not - why didn't he marry? He puts on his slipper and walks out the door. If it's not the moon shinning, it's the early a.m. Can't he have a moment's peace? He makes a mental note of the wrong way to do things. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2014 12:55:46 GMT -5
Yes, theres really no such thing as 'no mind' or mind coming to an end. There's just the ebb and flow of the apparent veiling of the infinite by mind and a returning to our true nature. So fake nature is like a potted plant or astroturf?? Yes. |
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Post by laughter on May 7, 2014 20:58:56 GMT -5
So fake nature is like a potted plant or astroturf?? Yes.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2014 4:32:32 GMT -5
Mind sends forward for review thoughts on any subject I am interested in, inside or out.
When I passively observe my mind, energy is being projected to where I am focused
and I notice that further thought arises until I get a flow-on
and the substance that is flowing can be projected into other minds
or spoken.(texted even)
What is your definition of your mind?
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2014 8:41:45 GMT -5
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......one of my favorite episodes, Spock's Brain. 