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Post by hybrid on Jul 26, 2013 23:12:27 GMT -5
if we define or interpret deep sleep as the absence of consciousness base on our unconcious deep sleep experience then by virtue of circular reasoning it is so.
if we correlate the presence of consciousness with brain activity then in deep sleep there is consciousness because even in deep sleep there is also brain activity.
so what and how is it to know consciously?
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Post by hybrid on Jul 26, 2013 23:34:38 GMT -5
if one has samadhi so what?
we only cherished our spiritual experiences and achievement because we have invested so much in them.
in deep sleep there is no self consciousness while in samadhi there is a waking state thst is not necessarily self conscious
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Post by silence on Jul 27, 2013 0:47:52 GMT -5
if one has samadhi so what? Sounds like yer just jealous that you can't suppress your brain activity.  |
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Post by hybrid on Jul 27, 2013 1:03:21 GMT -5
if one has samadhi so what? Sounds like yer just jealous that you can't suppress your brain activity. if i am jealous so what ? in the final analysis, what is there to brag about? jelousy and admiration comes only to those who have the desire to experience it. so it really sucks if your on the same theory and practice |
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Post by andrew on Jul 27, 2013 3:04:05 GMT -5
Brainwave Patterns and States of Awareness Awake……………….Conscious Mind………….Beta Yoga Nidra…………..Superconscious Mind……Alpha Dreaming Sleep……..Subconscious Mind……..Theta Deep Sleep………….Unconscious Mind……….Delta 'Gamma' is also an interesting one. It is associated with increased brain activity and yet is associated with unity consciousness and compassion. Apparently advanced 'Tibetan meditators' are strong on Gamma. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2013 3:09:37 GMT -5
Brainwave Patterns and States of Awareness Awake……………….Conscious Mind………….Beta Yoga Nidra…………..Superconscious Mind……Alpha Dreaming Sleep……..Subconscious Mind……..Theta Deep Sleep………….Unconscious Mind……….Delta 'Gamma' is also an interesting one. It is associated with increased brain activity and yet is associated with unity consciousness and compassion. Apparently advanced 'Tibetan meditators' are strong on Gamma. (Appearently?) do you mean you have no link any-longer to the source of your information? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2013 3:10:36 GMT -5
. Nobody understands qualia, qualia are just there, you can only understand ideas. semantic word play. ho-hum would it be semantic of me to say So Hum? |
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Post by andrew on Jul 27, 2013 3:14:19 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2013 3:42:24 GMT -5
thank you Andrew, you have a kind heart an are very helpful. If the buddists want themselves to be the worlds #1 top-class-spiritual-club of searchers an re-searchers seeking the mysteries in life, they will want to utilise what ever Western Science can unearth(invent) about how their own brains function. They do want their club to lead the current world religions don't they? By 'attuning-themselves' with Sciences latest-brain mirroring-inventions, they are telling me they haven't yet realised that surrendering their mind gives compassion the quickest means of expression. (selflessness is always the quickest to respond to the plight of life under stress) will look at your other link, some other time. again, thank you for your effort.  |
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Post by andrew on Jul 27, 2013 4:01:50 GMT -5
thank you Andrew, you have a kind heart an are very helpful. If the buddists want themselves to be the worlds #1 top-class-spiritual-club of searchers an re-searchers seeking the mysteries in life, they will want to utilise what ever Western Science can unearth(invent) about how their own brains function. They do want their club to lead the current world religions don't they? By 'attuning-themselves' with Sciences latest-brain mirroring-inventions, they are telling me they haven't yet realised that surrendering their mind gives compassion the quickest means of expression. (selflessness is always the quickest to respond to the plight of life under stress) will look at your other link, some other time. again, thank you for your effort. Cool. And you're welcome. Personally I think its a good thing that science is exploring what's happening in the brain in those that demonstrate compassion and experience unity consciousness. There are a lot of people out there diagnosed with things that ADHD, obsessive compulsive disorders, depression etc that take medication when actually the technology is there these days to mess around with our brain waves in such way so as to make the medication redundant. Neurofeedback is an example, but even consistent listening to binaural beats has made a big difference in a lot of people's lives. Some people just aren't spiritually inclined and don't have the inclination or even ability to meditate. I think that these kinds of explorations are potentially very valuable for these kinds of people. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2013 5:02:55 GMT -5
thank you Andrew, you have a kind heart an are very helpful. If the buddists want themselves to be the worlds #1 top-class-spiritual-club of searchers an re-searchers seeking the mysteries in life, they will want to utilise what ever Western Science can unearth(invent) about how their own brains function. They do want their club to lead the current world religions don't they? By 'attuning-themselves' with Sciences latest-brain mirroring-inventions, they are telling me they haven't yet realised that surrendering their mind gives compassion the quickest means of expression. (selflessness is always the quickest to respond to the plight of life under stress) will look at your other link, some other time. again, thank you for your effort. Cool. And you're welcome. Personally I think its a good thing that science is exploring what's happening in the brain in those that demonstrate compassion and experience unity consciousness. There are a lot of people out there diagnosed with things that ADHD, obsessive compulsive disorders, depression etc that take medication when actually the technology is there these days to mess around with our brain waves in such way so as to make the medication redundant. Neurofeedback is an example, but even consistent listening to binaural beats has made a big difference in a lot of people's lives. Some people just aren't spiritually inclined and don't have the inclination or even ability to meditate. I think that these kinds of explorations are potentially very valuable for these kinds of people. true. people don't realise they inhabit their craniums... are not aware that conciousness-is before it arises up the spinal column an fires up the brain. If one practices an enhances the quality of their awareness, one can awaken before the mind remembers the constraints which it imposes on the librarian, the brain manager or what ever you want to call that voice in your head, that thinks its right, but not left. |
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Post by tzujanli on Jul 27, 2013 5:50:29 GMT -5
Greetings.. Cool. And you're welcome. Personally I think its a good thing that science is exploring what's happening in the brain in those that demonstrate compassion and experience unity consciousness. There are a lot of people out there diagnosed with things that ADHD, obsessive compulsive disorders, depression etc that take medication when actually the technology is there these days to mess around with our brain waves in such way so as to make the medication redundant. Neurofeedback is an example, but even consistent listening to binaural beats has made a big difference in a lot of people's lives. Some people just aren't spiritually inclined and don't have the inclination or even ability to meditate. I think that these kinds of explorations are potentially very valuable for these kinds of people. true. people don't realise they inhabit their craniums... are not aware that conciousness-is before it arises up the spinal column an fires up the brain. If one practices an enhances the quality of their awareness, one can awaken before the mind remembers the constraints which it imposes on the librarian, the brain manager or what ever you want to call that voice in your head, that thinks its right, but not left. What you are can be described as 'consciousness' manifested as a physical happening.. similar to the way ice forms in water.. consciousness doesn't move around inside of you, it 'is' you.. Consciousness is always present, its contents always available.. in deep sleep or when anesthetized it is 'awareness' that is suspended, so that no information is not being input into consciousness, but.. when you wake-up, all that was there in consciousness prior to the suspension of awareness is still present.. Be well.. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2013 6:52:06 GMT -5
Greetings.. true. people don't realise they inhabit their craniums... are not aware that conciousness-is before it arises up the spinal column an fires up the brain. If one practices an enhances the quality of their awareness, one can awaken before the mind remembers the constraints which it imposes on the librarian, the brain manager or what ever you want to call that voice in your head, that thinks its right, but not left. What you are can be described as 'consciousness' manifested as a physical happening.. similar to the way ice forms in water.. consciousness doesn't move around inside of you, it 'is' you.. Consciousness is always present, its contents always available.. in deep sleep or when anesthetized it is 'awareness' that is suspended, so that no information is not being input into consciousness, but.. when you wake-up, all that was there in consciousness prior to the suspension of awareness is still present.. Be well.. you is? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2013 6:56:47 GMT -5
Greetings.. What you are can be described as 'consciousness' manifested as a physical happening.. similar to the way ice forms in water.. consciousness doesn't move around inside of you, it 'is' you.. Consciousness is always present, its contents always available.. in deep sleep or when anesthetized it is 'awareness' that is suspended, so that no information is not being input into consciousness, but.. when you wake-up, all that was there in consciousness prior to the suspension of awareness is still present.. Be well.. you is like ice forming in water an then you vaporise, (go to sleep?) an then condense an become like water again that freezes itself? Like two molecules of Hydrogen an one molecule of oxygen? You are the water that makes up most of my body, (90%?) that I inhabited after birthing? |
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Post by silver on Jul 27, 2013 11:25:28 GMT -5
Greetings.. true. people don't realise they inhabit their craniums... are not aware that conciousness-is before it arises up the spinal column an fires up the brain. If one practices an enhances the quality of their awareness, one can awaken before the mind remembers the constraints which it imposes on the librarian, the brain manager or what ever you want to call that voice in your head, that thinks its right, but not left. What you are can be described as 'consciousness' manifested as a physical happening.. similar to the way ice forms in water.. consciousness doesn't move around inside of you, it 'is' you.. Consciousness is always present, its contents always available.. in deep sleep or when anesthetized it is 'awareness' that is suspended, so that no information is not being input into consciousness, but.. when you wake-up, all that was there in consciousness prior to the suspension of awareness is still present.. Be well.. Si, senor. |
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