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Post by swamicollins on Nov 8, 2008 11:58:44 GMT -5
Sophia-I cannot enter the realms oh "higher consciousness" as you call it--I have NOT the slightest interest in these realms of "higher consciousness" as you term them-
I have Maximum BrainBloodVolume
I have Maximum BrainGlucose
I have Maximum Oxygen
You are in Hypoglaecaemia and Hypoxia like ALL others reading(except the few reading this who may practice Yoga to some extent)
These two physiological deficits are part of Your problem--again why I insist on a Face to Face meeting so that I can asses you Physically --as well as see your face in order to KNOW (as I assert) that you do LIE and LIE to yourself more than anyone(as ALL do in varying degreesw)
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Post by sophia on Nov 8, 2008 12:12:57 GMT -5
I get you now. I have misunderstood you all this time. I thought you were some "crazy wisdom" spiritual guru but you are a holistic medicine man. Why didn't you say so from the beginning?
I know I probably should be paying attention to holistic medicine but they're currently not within the realm of my interest. Thank you, though.
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Post by lightmystic on Nov 8, 2008 15:46:04 GMT -5
I didn't mean my pain. Everything you say seems to ooze pain. Maybe you should look into that. You don't have anything that everyone else doesn't. That concept is silly.  I dont know why exactly you have "all the Pain"--Id say its because of ALL the Good and bad KARMA your carrying in this life-basically Karma(both good and Bad)comes from not being in UNION with Creation as you arentRead my Free Ebook www.experientialknowingness.co.uk |
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Post by sophia on Nov 8, 2008 17:34:09 GMT -5
I personally think that Swami is a big teddy bear in disguise.
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Post by lightmystic on Nov 10, 2008 10:53:23 GMT -5
I think you just might be on to something there Sophia.
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Post by Peter on Nov 10, 2008 11:55:40 GMT -5
Sorry I'm way late responding here! It's funny to me because you can actually see the process happening here in this series of posts - issue gets triggered, gets reacted to, gets resolved. When I resolved it in myself, the situation resolved externally too. That is my experience all the time with how it works. Since then it hasn't been an issue. It's okay if it still is though. I'm happy to examine it. Does that answer your question? It does, thank you LightMystic. I appreciated the full frankness of your response too. I went through a similar thing of having an Experience (still writing about that!) and thinking I'd achieved something, and then realising that I've still got these buttons exposed which - unless I'm feeling particularly present and together - cause me to React in a fairly predicatable and unskillful way when they're pushed. Man as a machine indeed. When I'm relatively present, I've been watching impulses rise up in response to situtations and choosing not to act on them. But the impulse still arises - I wonder if they ever go away, or better, change to be skillful rather than unskillful impulses. Also I'm juggling three ideals: 1. The Zen goal of no-mind, no-self 2. The Ra (Law of One) goal of making a commitment to either STS - Service to Self, or STO - Service to Others. 3. Being a Good Dad and supporting my family I don't feel able to make the commitment to devoting my life 100% to the service of others. But I'm really keen on respecting the free will of others, which means a commitment to self-service is also impossible. It's just this sort of fence sitting that leads to repeating a 3rd Density incarnation, apparently. Ra says. The obvious way forward (which is of benefit no matter which ideal I'm considering) is to try to be present, self-aware, self-remembering, reflexive/access consciousness (whatever you want to call it) at all times. This seems like the hard work that needs to be done to make the sort of necessary spiritual progress for which there are no short cuts. When I say "necessary", I mean "necessary if you want to make true spiritual progress rather than some sort of self-delusional semi-psychotic spiritual progress that comes from allowing some false guru to hypnotise you into thinking that you understand something profound which is just a bowl of lightly dressed word salad". I'm hoping that by being present and making a skillful and conscious decision whether to serve self or other in every circumstance, I'll ... well, at least be able to argue my case when I face whatever we face when we die, even if it's just my own judgement about how I've lived my life. I see this as a middle way, a way of balance between self and other. Yes yes, you may tell me that there is, ultimately, no self or other, but there are still decisions to be made about how to behave, and if decisions are not made with conscious awareness, then is there just automation? I was thinking the other day that holding balance too tightly is an unbalanced way of life. If scales are held in balance, then they're not finding their own level, they're not behaving as scales. Instead they're behaving like two small shelves, able to experience uneven loads without moving because an external force is holding them in place. And that causes stress. To cut a long story short I've used this line of thinking to justify the odd night out on the town getting legless with the lads. Imbalance within the balance. I believe there's precident for this behaviour set by Hui-K'o, The Second Patriarch of Chinese Zen Lineage. I wonder if the Buddha did all his "work" before having his Enlightenment experience. Then he'd truly have nothing more to attain. But if someone should have their Enlightenment experience before clearing away all their issues, misunderstandings, buttons, programs and logs-in-their-eye, then perhaps they'd still have a path that needs following! |
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Post by swamicollins on Nov 10, 2008 14:29:30 GMT -5
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Post by swamicollins on Nov 10, 2008 14:39:09 GMT -5
You(the Id-Entity in the body run by the Conditioned Identity calling itself Sophia) Tibetans in Dharamsala in the early 80s called me "a Crazy Wisdom Baba" I am NOT a "wholistic medicine man I am NOT a Crazy Wisdom Baba I am NOT Enlightened I am NOT a Budda I am NOT an Avatar I am NOT a Saviour I am NOT a Teacher I am NOT a Messiah Iam NOT a Mahdi I am NOT a Master I am NOT Awakened I am NOT Conditional LOVE I am an Analyst/Therapist I am MINDLESS I am Conditioned Identity Less I am in UNION with CREATION I abjure ALL "gods" and "godesses" I abjure ALL "religions I am Unconditional LOVE I am CREATION incarnate in this Body Iam a MAN on a BIG BALL in Space I am NOT a TEDDY BEAR www.experientialknowingness.co.uk |
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Post by swamicollins on Nov 10, 2008 14:42:10 GMT -5
Peter-stop taking Heroin and stop babbling useless strings of Fine-Sounding but meaningless associated words-
Believe as much "ancient nonsense as you choose to but please stop trying to pull me into the GROUPMIND that you are the slave of--at least 100million JUNKIES worldwide are in it with you-I ran a halfway house in the 1970s--over 200 junkies kicked Permanently-care to make it 202??
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Post by lightmystic on Nov 10, 2008 14:47:50 GMT -5
Hey Peter,
I like what you said. My experience is that I'll have an experience of the next bright shiny place and say "ooh! I want that!"
Life responds, "okay, you just have to let go of every limited idea and smallness in the way to be there." So all of the old issues, pain, sadness, etc. come up.
My initial reaction to this process was understandably "aaah! where did the awesome experience go?!"
As the smallnesses were resolved, accepted, and the resistance was allowed to fade, the initial experience became my day to day reality. Very nice, very shiny, but also normal. Then came the next place that seemed amazing, and the process continued.
This is self-development. No matter how wonderful it gets, there is always more. There can be perfect, brilliant supreme enlightenment, and there is still more, and so more smallnesses are released to allow for that.
The process of self development is different than self realization (although they are related to some degree). Self realization is that all experiences are Wholeness. The whole thing. Completeness. Anything else is just the mind. The mind runs it's simulations, runs it's processes, give scenarios, suggestions, and interpretations. That's fine. That's what the mind is SUPPOSED to do. The problem isn't the mind giving scenarios and making suggestions, it's the belief that those suggestions MAKE reality. They're not reality, they're a point of view. Any conceptions of a world of differentiation is a point of view, and therefore not the whole reality. There is no "right point of view", because any point of view is partial, and so not the whole thing. So the realization that the point of view is pretend, just a label on reality instead of defining reality can be the release of all suffering. This includes all conceptions of separateness eventually.
Thus, even the issues, appearances of issues, apparent resolution of issues, etc. is seen as the completeness. This kind fulfills the purpose of self development. Nonetheless, self development can continue, but it's on the basis of perfect wholeness, perfect completeness. Nothing is missing or lacking, and so self development, while still fun and still continuing, is not focused on "getting there." Because "there" is here.
Does that make sense?
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Post by sophia on Nov 10, 2008 15:15:18 GMT -5
Swami,
You might not be a teddy bear but there is just something about you that I like. The Tibetans are right - somewhere on this forum, I can't remember where, I stated that I thought you were a "crazy wisdom" guy.
Intellectually I can see exactly what you're talking about. I can grasp it. I still have a little bit more of your book to read, though. (I always get distracted by other things when I'm reading, that's why I can never read much in a short amount of time.)
P.S. Somehow I think there is a little bit of Creation in teddy bears, too.
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Post by swamicollins on Nov 14, 2008 4:17:07 GMT -5
Sophia
Teddy Bears are inanimate objects and are separate fromCREATION because of that-they are NOT animate.No matter what you THINK(thinking is how the mind works only)
I on the other handc am ANIMATE and am a Small Part of CREATION itself incarnated in this Body at Conception but through my own efforts have become fully realised as that small part of CREATION but NOW in UNION with CREATION.
Grasping what I reiterate "Intellectually" is NOT the same as being the state of Beingness and can only be a precursor to moving into that state of Beingness-Intellect CANNOT get you
there!--ONLY total pernmanent Dissolution of MCI can get you "there" into that State of UNION with CREATION-without guidance from me you can only play the decptive Mindgames that MCI has had you playing through ALL the lifetimes youve had so far--
As for "something about me that you like"--Liking is not LOVING and unless you can Love me then your Love is only Conditional for everyone else too-I can only be loved UNCONDITIONALLY-my energy field will REJECT the Mental energy that you pour out that you believe is Love-It does this automatically as CREATION and I and Grene and Ben are a Group Consciousness(dont confuse being Conscious with Having CONSCIOUSNESS as ALL other do here-Meaning to words like CONSCIOUSNESS cannot be anything but states of Beingness and states of Beingness cannot be defined by other words as ALL here do-especially drones like Peter and Light Mystic.
AS for what "distracts" you when reading my book-Its the Mind that finds the excuses and you allow youself to be manipulated by Mind because Mind does not want you in UNION with CREATION--
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Post by swamicollins on Nov 14, 2008 4:22:21 GMT -5
Sophia-Of course I love you unconditionally but the difference between your liking and my LOVE is that you can FEEL my LOVE--relax into it I dont Bite!!
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Post by swamicollins on Nov 22, 2008 6:57:21 GMT -5
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