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Post by Ishtahota on Jun 10, 2013 17:29:23 GMT -5
Greetings.. Duality consciousness are like a main operating format for a computer, nonduality consciousness is just another main operating format. Duality consciousness is the format that 99.9999999999999999999% or so of us use to interact with this world that we live in. This is the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. It keeps us asleep and cut off from all of creation. Duality consciousness is why we only use a small percentage of our brain, it is also why our brain is split in half. Our psychic abilities are very weak because of duality consciousness. People who reach enlightenment use nonduality consciousness as the main operating format for their brain. Their psychic abilities open up, they become healers, and no one can keep secrets from them. Why would you believe those ideas? Those are beliefs about what 'is'.. and what 'is' is not derived by beliefs in duality or nonduality.. you're getting attached to the beliefs confusion, where everybody has 'their own' beliefs and want their own beliefs to be 'the right' beliefs, but.. some other people's beliefs seem okay, too, and that's confusing when you want your beliefs to 'the right beliefs'.. don't get stuck in beliefs, just pay attention to what is actually happening and you will see beliefs for the illusions that they are.. for example: I know people that believe that all is one (nonduality), but.. contrary to your belief, " no one can keep secrets from them", i ask questions like "what is the subject of the picture immediately to my right", which is not even a secret, and.. they can't answer. you express the 'belief' that "no one can keep secrets from them", but that's not what actually is happening. it's your belief.. keeping a clear awareness about the claims people make, and the ways people use language to create illusions that entice beliefs, are useful ways to understand our relationships with the Life we are living and the existence we are living in.. the example i use is simple and the simplicity annoys people that want to create illusions with language and word-games, but.. the first rule of actuality, is being able to back-up claims without resorting to unverifiable conditions.. actuality is not conditional. Be well.. What I write about in here comes from direct experience. Faith and belief can be put in the garbage where it belongs when you have done enough personal clearing to develop conscious contact and step into the knowing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2013 19:13:34 GMT -5
" What I write about in here comes from direct experience. Faith and belief can be put in the garbage where it belongs when you have done enough personal clearing to develop conscious contact and step into the knowing." TZUJANLI
man, does that sound familiar to any of you guys that were around here a couple of years ago when I was here....
Where is exactamente when I need him lol
Would be useful to have him pull one of my old quotes like that one.
TZU....do you think I've moved forward, backward, or nowhere since I use to write stuff like here?
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Post by tzujanli on Jun 10, 2013 19:59:54 GMT -5
Greetings.. " What I write about in here comes from direct experience. Faith and belief can be put in the garbage where it belongs when you have done enough personal clearing to develop conscious contact and step into the knowing." TZUJANLI man, does that sound familiar to any of you guys that were around here a couple of years ago when I was here.... Where is exactamente when I need him lol Would be useful to have him pull one of my old quotes like that one. TZU....do you think I've moved forward, backward, or nowhere since I use to write stuff like here? I've only been posting here since Dec. of 2012.. prior to that i was posting at Spiritual Forums.. Be well..
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Post by Reefs on Jun 10, 2013 20:05:20 GMT -5
Greetings.. We are One.. We are many.. We are separate.. We are seamlessly whole.. There is a common self-evident awareness in the concepts stated above, followed by the concept, idea, belief.. there is conflict, contradiction, and attachment in the concepts and beliefs.. To look upon the world with innocence, still the mind.. silence the internal voice that tells you what your parents, clergy, teachers, mentors, friends, peers, and the books, and movies, and communication media want you to hear and believe.. silence the internal voice that tries to tell you what you see, what you should believe.. In the stillness and silence is a new innocence, a fresh perspective and vision.. We are.. together, we can explore that 'are-ness' for what it 'is', rather than what we think it is, rather than what we were conditioned to believe it is, but.. to do that, we need to let go of the beliefs and knowings, so that we are all seeing with the same eyes.. Be well.. Dear Dude/Dudette, What is this 'we' kimonosake other than an idea, a concept ABOUT 'what is'? Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize
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Post by laughter on Jun 10, 2013 20:25:18 GMT -5
As I implied with my first answer: the problem lies with the question. <nonesense> to state a belief or a disbelief in or about "the ineffable" is more nonsense </nonsense> "the ineffable" is ineffable. To state something ABOUT 'the ineffable' is nonsense, but to say whether one believes or doesn't believe in this alleged 'ineffable' (beyond the realm of ideas) is not nonsense. Its not wholly dissimilar to asking someone if they believe in God. I am asking you if you believe there is such thing given that you speak of it. If not, what is your relationship to it? For me its simple. Its a case of maybe there is such thing beyond the realm of ideas, and maybe there isn't. I disagree with you on this point. What we can do is notice that there is a seemingly related conceptual track defined by the idea of the failure of language and centered on the question: what is it that language can't convey? Mind falls into a trap here in drawing a connection between the two ideas, and that's where objectification begins. Best just to grab a spoon instead.
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Post by Portto on Jun 10, 2013 20:27:39 GMT -5
I have no interest and inclination to stand idiocy gladly on the forum at the moment. Probably best for both of us if you talk to people that don't think you are an idiot. Please | tell | me | how |
| you | really | feel | Andrew |
We are not separate. It just appears so. Hugs.
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Post by silver on Jun 10, 2013 20:33:36 GMT -5
Please | tell | me | how |
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We are not separate. It just appears so. Hugs. whoah
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Post by Beingist on Jun 10, 2013 20:36:23 GMT -5
Hey, is this thing supposed to make us dizzy, or somethin'? Or, is it ... a .... thingy...........for................ hypnotizing....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2013 20:46:07 GMT -5
Please | tell | me | how |
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We are not separate. It just appears so. Hugs. Hey!....if I slide the image around on my IPhone I can make it stop moving.... Can't......quite.....make the lines line up!......uggghhh Was making me a bit nauseous just trying though
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Post by Reefs on Jun 10, 2013 21:03:11 GMT -5
Dear Dude/Dudette, What do you want me to elaborate on that? It's about truthin', of course, not if Tzu's guitar was actually stolen or not or if Laozi did actually write the Daodejing or not. About that kind of stuff we might actually bang heads, hehe. Provide a little more background about 'not-knowing', please. Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize I don't know what 'not knowing' is .. lol but one thing, I seem to know, from countless hours spent weeding my garden, is that if you don't remove every bit of the root, a new iteration of the same weed will resurface ... maybe some of these type direct observations, seen with a still mind, explain 'how things work', as said by "as above, so below" Dear Dude/Dudette, I used to say that I am not in the sense-making business when it comes to truthin'. So, maybe that has something to do with what you call not-knowing. Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize
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Post by Reefs on Jun 10, 2013 21:06:05 GMT -5
" What I write about in here comes from direct experience. Faith and belief can be put in the garbage where it belongs when you have done enough personal clearing to develop conscious contact and step into the knowing." TZUJANLI man, does that sound familiar to any of you guys that were around here a couple of years ago when I was here.... Where is exactamente when I need him lol Would be useful to have him pull one of my old quotes like that one. TZU....do you think I've moved forward, backward, or nowhere since I use to write stuff like here? Dear Dude/Dudette, You want me to put some old quotes out front? OHC already speculated Tzu would be Tath, haha. Remember the somalia baby incident? Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize
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Post by laughter on Jun 10, 2013 21:21:33 GMT -5
" What I write about in here comes from direct experience. Faith and belief can be put in the garbage where it belongs when you have done enough personal clearing to develop conscious contact and step into the knowing." TZUJANLI man, does that sound familiar to any of you guys that were around here a couple of years ago when I was here.... Where is exactamente when I need him lol Would be useful to have him pull one of my old quotes like that one. TZU....do you think I've moved forward, backward, or nowhere since I use to write stuff like here? What's really really funny about that post is that I'm pretty sure that Ishtahota just wrote inside the Tzu-quote ... so what sounded an awful lot like Tzu talking was someone talking at him instead ...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2013 21:25:11 GMT -5
" What I write about in here comes from direct experience. Faith and belief can be put in the garbage where it belongs when you have done enough personal clearing to develop conscious contact and step into the knowing." TZUJANLI man, does that sound familiar to any of you guys that were around here a couple of years ago when I was here.... Where is exactamente when I need him lol Would be useful to have him pull one of my old quotes like that one. TZU....do you think I've moved forward, backward, or nowhere since I use to write stuff like here? What's really really funny about that post is that I'm pretty sure that Ishtahota just wrote inside the Tzu-quote ... so what sounded an awful lot like Tzu talking was someone talking at him instead ... Haha...now that's funny
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2013 21:27:32 GMT -5
" What I write about in here comes from direct experience. Faith and belief can be put in the garbage where it belongs when you have done enough personal clearing to develop conscious contact and step into the knowing." TZUJANLI man, does that sound familiar to any of you guys that were around here a couple of years ago when I was here.... Where is exactamente when I need him lol Would be useful to have him pull one of my old quotes like that one. TZU....do you think I've moved forward, backward, or nowhere since I use to write stuff like here? Dear Dude/Dudette, You want me to put some old quotes out front? OHC already speculated Tzu would be Tath, haha. Remember the somalia baby incident? Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize Haha, yeah....don't pull that one back out, we'll get TZU VERY worked up I think.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2013 21:42:29 GMT -5
" What I write about in here comes from direct experience. Faith and belief can be put in the garbage where it belongs when you have done enough personal clearing to develop conscious contact and step into the knowing." TZUJANLI man, does that sound familiar to any of you guys that were around here a couple of years ago when I was here.... Where is exactamente when I need him lol Would be useful to have him pull one of my old quotes like that one. TZU....do you think I've moved forward, backward, or nowhere since I use to write stuff like here? What's really really funny about that post is that I'm pretty sure that Ishtahota just wrote inside the Tzu-quote ... so what sounded an awful lot like Tzu talking was someone talking at him instead ... OMG...maybe Ishtahota is TZU...
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