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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2013 0:16:23 GMT -5
Greetings.. What's your point, B? Nah, i'm not inclined to 'get over it', i sense there are ways to minimize choices that lead to conflict.. do i sense some emulation in your reply? Be well.. Emulation of what? If you don't want to get over it, that's fine. Just quitcherpregnant dogin', then. If you see conflict, and try to prevent it, you're only likely to create more conflict.What's 'wrong'?
While myself and the people who have shared their conflict resolution experiences with me, have experienced the opposite, so perhaps you are doing conflict resolution wrong. |
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Post by Beingist on Mar 17, 2013 0:33:49 GMT -5
Seriously? So people killing each other in wars all over our planet doesn't bother you, you are ok with this happening?'People' will be people. Nothin' much I can do about that. It used to bother me greatly. Anymore, I just don't understand it. But, in the effort to allow everything to be as it is, indeed, I allow people to kill each other. What else would you suggest that I do? Do you think I am going to be able to stop it? [/font][/quote] Well, my father killed himself when I was two, and the rest of the nuclear family into which I was born have all since passed, so you could say that I've already seen my share of dying family members. I've even had a few friends killed in auto accidents, or some other fashion. That said, it probably wouldn't bother me personally all that much if another friend died. Everything in the 3-dimensional world passes, and that includes humans. This body of mine will pass, too. Nothin' much I can do about it, so there's no sense in getting worked up over how it happens. I must admit that untimely deaths of children, and suffering animals (I mean suffering by either physical or emotional pain) can still get to me, again, which I must allow. But, again, nothing I can do about it, except to allow myself to feel whatever pain it may bring about. Otherwise, yes, I don't worry about death. It's just another 'part of life', as they say. |
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Post by laughter on Mar 17, 2013 0:39:51 GMT -5
I must admit that untimely deaths of children, and suffering animals (I mean suffering by either physical or emotional pain) can still get to me, again, which I must allow. I 'member your sorrow about that nose-picking antelope in the time/Einstein/relativity discussion months back now ... |
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Post by Beingist on Mar 17, 2013 0:47:16 GMT -5
You state that trying to prevent conflict results in more("only likely") conflict.
While myself and the people who have shared their conflict resolution experiences with me, have experienced the opposite, so perhaps you are doing conflict resolution wrong. 'Conflict resolution'? Is there, like, some sort of class on that? Do you have, like, some sort of degree in it? The only conflict that I'm concerned about dealing with, is any internal conflict I may have within myself. The way I see it, until you get your own sh!t together, attempting to resolve anything external isn't likely to help, in the broader scheme of things. At least in some cases, yes, it can add fuel to the fire. Ever hear the truism, 'the road to hell is paved with good intentions?' Well, you might apply that, here. Of course, I have no problem with anyone attempting to resolve external conflicts, regardless of their experience. 'Blessed are the peacemakers', etc. |
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Post by Beingist on Mar 17, 2013 0:50:36 GMT -5
I must admit that untimely deaths of children, and suffering animals (I mean suffering by either physical or emotional pain) can still get to me, again, which I must allow. I 'member your sorrow about that nose-picking antelope in the time/Einstein/relativity discussion months back now ... Sorry, laughy, my memory is about shot, could you assist? Otherwise, please bear in mind that, as I've stated before, I'm on this forum to unlearn stuff, and in that process, my understanding of things as it was months ago, may as well have been other lifetimes ago. |
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Post by laughter on Mar 17, 2013 1:11:21 GMT -5
I 'member your sorrow about that nose-picking antelope in the time/Einstein/relativity discussion months back now ... Sorry, laughy, my memory is about shot, could you assist? Otherwise, please bear in mind that, as I've stated before, I'm on this forum to unlearn stuff, and in that process, my understanding of things as it was months ago, may as well have been other lifetimes ago. sure turns out it wasn't too hard to find the thread ... remember this guy? This is the tear-jerker: Bonus! it was the thread where Andrew posted his picture:  how can anyone be mean to such a sweet lookin' guy! |
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Post by Beingist on Mar 17, 2013 1:16:00 GMT -5
Sorry, laughy, my memory is about shot, could you assist? Otherwise, please bear in mind that, as I've stated before, I'm on this forum to unlearn stuff, and in that process, my understanding of things as it was months ago, may as well have been other lifetimes ago. sure turns out it wasn't too hard to find the thread ... remember this guy? This is the tear-jerker: Bonus! it was the thread where Andrew posted his picture: how can anyone be mean to such a sweet lookin' guy! Okay, I certainly remember all those images, but ... ... what was the question, again?  |
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Post by laughter on Mar 17, 2013 1:19:05 GMT -5
... what was the question, again? wells I was jest reminiscing but now that you mention it this fits in with what you said to both the Goat and to me ... does the death of the Antelope still evoke any reaction at this point? |
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Post by silver on Mar 17, 2013 1:23:06 GMT -5
I 'member your sorrow about that nose-picking antelope in the time/Einstein/relativity discussion months back now ... Sorry, laughy, my memory is about shot, could you assist? Otherwise, please bear in mind that, as I've stated before, I'm on this forum to unlearn stuff, and in that process, my understanding of things as it was months ago, may as well have been other lifetimes ago. ...and you think this stuff is helping you in your life? To give up your memory willingly like this? I don't understand...Are there any other reasons for the memory loss problem? |
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Post by Beingist on Mar 17, 2013 1:25:35 GMT -5
... what was the question, again? wells I was jest reminiscing but now that you mention it this fits in with what you said to both the Goat and to me ... does the death of the Antelope still evoke any reaction at this point? Just watched it, again, and yes, as I say, little kids and defenseless animals still get the best of me, even if it's a completely natural thing (as quinn justly noted at the time, the 'antelope had it coming'). Something about ... innocence being destroyed, or something. I dunno.  |
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Post by laughter on Mar 17, 2013 1:28:07 GMT -5
'sok man
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Post by Beingist on Mar 17, 2013 1:31:49 GMT -5
Sorry, laughy, my memory is about shot, could you assist? Otherwise, please bear in mind that, as I've stated before, I'm on this forum to unlearn stuff, and in that process, my understanding of things as it was months ago, may as well have been other lifetimes ago. ...and you think this stuff is helping you in your life? To give up your memory willingly like this? I don't understand...Are there any other reasons for the memory loss problem? Yes, silver, 'this stuff' helps me to unlearn, and in the process, if I lose my memory, I lose my memory. In all honesty, I suspect that it has something to do with putting so much attention into the present moment. NOW is all there is. Neither past nor future have any existence in reality. So, why bother remembering every detail of each moment, and why worry about any future moment? |
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Post by silver on Mar 17, 2013 1:39:09 GMT -5
...and you think this stuff is helping you in your life? To give up your memory willingly like this? I don't understand...Are there any other reasons for the memory loss problem? Yes, silver, 'this stuff' helps me to unlearn, and in the process, if I lose my memory, I lose my memory. In all honesty, I suspect that it has something to do with putting so much attention into the present moment. NOW is all there is. Neither past nor future have any existence in reality. So, why bother remembering every detail of each moment, and why worry about any future moment? I struggle with a bit of memory difficulties myself...I don't see any benefits whatsoever to losing one's memory, tbh. I'm not so sure I want someone to have to take care of me because of it. I don't have anyone, anyway to do so even if I did at this point. There are other ways of dealing with stressful stuff than giving it all away. |
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Post by Beingist on Mar 17, 2013 1:48:39 GMT -5
At the same time, well, allow me to share with you a story.... Quite near where I live, a couple of weeks ago, on one particular morning, there was a guy who had shot his girlfriend, drove to the nearest gas station, shot a guy for his truck, got on the freeway, pulled over onto the shoulder and shot at some other cars, got back in the truck, got on another freeway, shot some guy walking across a street, went to a local construction site, shot someone else for their car, got back on the freeway, got off a few miles up, made a right turn, drove up about block, where he stopped the vehicle in the middle of an intersection, got out and blew his own head off with a shotgun. It all happened in but a few minutes. I was actually on my way to work, and given the timeline and his route, for all I know, he could have passed me en route. I was that close to it all. But, the whole thing hardly phased me. I simply don't understand it. I mean, what do I know? Some peeps were killed. Someone was apparently suffering. What could I do to prevent it?--not a damn thing. "Allow everything to be, just as it is". |
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Post by Beingist on Mar 17, 2013 1:50:37 GMT -5
Yes, silver, 'this stuff' helps me to unlearn, and in the process, if I lose my memory, I lose my memory. In all honesty, I suspect that it has something to do with putting so much attention into the present moment. NOW is all there is. Neither past nor future have any existence in reality. So, why bother remembering every detail of each moment, and why worry about any future moment? I struggle with a bit of memory difficulties myself...I don't see any benefits whatsoever to losing one's memory, tbh. I'm not so sure I want someone to have to take care of me because of it. I don't have anyone, anyway to do so even if I did at this point. There are other ways of dealing with stressful stuff than giving it all away. I wouldn't say I was 'struggling'. I'm in allowance mode. There's Peace in just being, whether you remember what happened yesterday, or not. |
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