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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 11:03:10 GMT -5
I went back and looked at the exchange, especially the time passed between exchanges. One poster was was expressing limited thought about love, I posted words pointing at a more expansive view. As I pointed out, I've been reading Deepak every day for 20 years, and continue to do so every day. I felt the context of the posts were well within the framework of the discussion, and the intention behind the posts was to express a more expansive viewpoint about love. No hidden motive there. I agreed to quote authors as a result. But I didn't see the same agreement offered by reefs or enigma. Somebody authored the expressions they were sharing. The posts had a rote quality to them. Chopra's quite easy to quote in a discussion. Love dances in the freshness of the unknown. No copy and paste necessary. It's there at a touch. Alive. And a helluva lot fresher than the stale, repetitive memory of non dual dogma R&E are constantly engaged in.  Oh yeah, blame it on reefs and enigma again. Oh! It's not blame, reefy. We've all seen your shtick. Two confronting one. I often think of Carlin when you're engaged in it , too- The Jews are smart; they don't have a hell. ;D |
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Post by Reefs on Feb 3, 2013 11:25:19 GMT -5
Oh yeah, blame it on reefs and enigma again. Oh! It's not blame, reefy. We've all seen your shtick. Two confronting one. I often think of Carlin when you're engaged in it , too- The Jews are smart; they don't have a hell. ;D Your strategy is diverting attention. First from your plagiarism to reefs and enigma and now to Jews and Carlin and hell. And when that doesn't work you delete your account and come back under another screen name after the dust has settled and then the same game starts again. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 11:41:18 GMT -5
Oh! It's not blame, reefy. We've all seen your shtick. Two confronting one. I often think of Carlin when you're engaged in it , too- The Jews are smart; they don't have a hell. ;D Your strategy is diverting attention. First from your plagiarism to reefs and enigma and now to Jews and Carlin and hell. And when that doesn't work you delete your account and come back under another screen name after the dust has settled and then the same game starts again. Don't you just wish that were so? The truth of the matter is, you really don't handle rejection well. |
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Post by Reefs on Feb 3, 2013 11:43:34 GMT -5
Your strategy is diverting attention. First from your plagiarism to reefs and enigma and now to Jews and Carlin and hell. And when that doesn't work you delete your account and come back under another screen name after the dust has settled and then the same game starts again. Don't you just wish that were so? The truth of the matter is, you really don't handle rejection well. Yes, pointing back to Reefs, that will work.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 11:47:51 GMT -5
Don't you just wish that were so? The truth of the matter is, you really don't handle rejection well. Yes, pointing back to Reefs, that will work. You're not that important, reefs. |
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Post by Reefs on Feb 3, 2013 11:49:08 GMT -5
Yes, pointing back to Reefs, that will work. You're not that important, reefs. Then your strategy can't work. ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 11:51:45 GMT -5
You're not that important, reefs. Then your strategy can't work. ;D Interesting projection. Do you know why your strategy can't work? Because it's your strategy. ;D |
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Post by Reefs on Feb 3, 2013 11:57:14 GMT -5
Then your strategy can't work. ;D Interesting projection. Do you know why your strategy can't work? Because it's your strategy. ;D What a nonsense: "Your strategy can't work because it's your strategy". Is that high school b!tching 101 now? Are you out of ideas that quickly?  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 12:26:23 GMT -5
Interesting projection. Do you know why your strategy can't work? Because it's your strategy. ;D What a nonsense: "Your strategy can't work because it's your strategy". Is that high school b!tching 101 now? Are you out of ideas that quickly? Yes. You're boring, too. What else ya got? |
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Post by enigma on Feb 3, 2013 13:29:47 GMT -5
Awoke this morning choosing to go through the whole thread in order to see the whole life of the "blackmail" incident.
Didn't want to at first because i knew i would come across other things to ponder and perhaps respond to, but have pondered both ways and have chosen this way.
That would mean that prior to realization, that people have no actual knowledge of 'love'. Sure love may be 'polluted' to some extent by conditioned fears, but to say that people have no knowledge of actual love, and don't or cannot love prior to 'realization' is not correct. If that were so, then one would expect 'personal love' to never fail. And yet..... Here's a slightly modified true story.
I bought a decent quality MTB for $1000 back in dec 2011.
Pete( bike shop owner):This is a good bike, i'm quite sure your health and fitness will increase and you will have many hours of enjoyment with it.
M-G: Yeah, and i agree, i like the bike and i think we will make a good team.
...fast forward to 12 months later...M-G goes back to the shop, disappointed...
Pete: Hey M-G, hows the bike?
M-G: Hey Pete, the bike is awesome though i got a bit of a complaint.
Pete: Oh, what is it?
M-G: Well, i so expected to get fit and enjoy my time with the bike, and although i enjoyed the bike for the first couple of days,
i never did get fitter and healthier and of course, my enjoyment dispersed fairly quickly.
Pete: That's odd because you said you have always liked MTBs and i know this is a quality bike that will not break down so easily.
And you say you have not gotten fitter and healthier...ok, how many hours a week riding have you been doing?
~long pause of contemplation~
M-G: Ohh, i am meant to ride it?
Love only fails when either not used, or is hindered(blocked, distorted, infected) by some other factor while using it,
or using something that i think is love but isn't, like strong attraction for instance.
That has been my experiences.
When my personal love is clear and free, it has never failed me.
I would say what love really is, is always "blocked, hindered, infected" by the persona using it as Love is fundamentally impersonal. |
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Post by enigma on Feb 3, 2013 13:51:07 GMT -5
Not suggesting excluding love or even the idea of love or the expression of the idea. Just saying personal love is conditional.
but this personal love has conditions attached to it.
That love remains as love, but it's surrounded by conditions.
So then the issue is not that love has been infected and been mutated into something other that pure love,
but simply the pure love was encased in conditions.
So that when love is emitted or recieved, it's filtered through the conditions, but these conditions are not attributes of love.
I don't really have an issue with that, but I tend to see the effort to make conditional love the same as unconditional love by declaring a common reference and focusing only on the idea that it is love, to the extent that we may mistake our personal conditional love for impersonal unconditional love. To be clear, it looks to me like an attempt to personally 'own' unconditional love. It's a bit like taking the wheels, handlebars and brakes off that mountain bike, mounting it on a platform with an engine and drive system and then showing off your new mountain bike to your friends. Your friends may insist it's not a mountain bike at all but rather a go-cart. Your insistence that it is still a mountain bike may get some eye rolls. |
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Post by enigma on Feb 3, 2013 14:00:02 GMT -5
Everyone agreeing with eachother isn't as stimulating. The "conflict" and tension is how we show our love for each other. 
i find the harmony of making love far more stimulating that disagreement and conflict.
And it has not been my experiences that giving and receiving love induces conflict or tension.
So i am definately not part of the "we" group you cited.
I wasn't aware we had a love making feature on this forum.  Absent that, what we're left with is conversation. Whatever we converse about, when we get to the point of complete agreement then the conversation comes to a halt and we all help to wash the tea cups and then go home and make love. |
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Post by laughter on Feb 3, 2013 14:12:16 GMT -5
d@mn I wasted my "rescue-exalt" on Silver already this morning!
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Post by silver on Feb 3, 2013 14:14:18 GMT -5
d@mn I wasted my "rescue-exalt" on Silver already this morning! |
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Post by laughter on Feb 3, 2013 14:17:04 GMT -5
just kiddin' ya' hun'! ... I mean, u gotta' admit that E's post was pretty exaltworthy there wouldn't ya' say?
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