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Post by enigma on Jan 31, 2013 16:04:35 GMT -5
If you see even Top as abusive, it helps to demonstrate that style doesn't work to even reliably avoid the misperception of abuse in communicating deconstruction. I wouldn't say that Top is/was abusive Then you have also identified a misperception on the part of Mr Goat. |
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Post by silver on Jan 31, 2013 16:10:06 GMT -5
I wouldn't say that Top is/was abusive Then you have also identified a misperception on the part of Mr Goat. Top himself said he was the abusive one - taking a bullet for you, I guess, I don't know... I think he was referring to you and Top, in general in his initial post on this subject. I'm not sure why you often carve out a tiny little slice of a post, ignoring the whole rest of its content/intent, but I have my ideas about that. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2013 16:12:42 GMT -5
I'm not sure why you often carve out a tiny little slice of a post, ignoring the whole rest of its content/intent, but I have my ideas about that. Entitlement. |
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Post by james on Jan 31, 2013 16:37:39 GMT -5
I'd say when the ego is too strong, deconstruction approaches don't work. While behavioral modification (service, right action) seems like the logical alternative, it doesn't seem to work either, as I generally see just the facade of acting right and talking about loving kindness and such. My suspicion is that life itself has to wear ego down to where it can approach the problem with some sincerity. LOL What E says resonates with me (not sure if the LOL is in disagreement or not TBH). I've previously tried to do good stuff for people (wife, colleagues, friends, hobos) but there is always that subtle element of a 'transaction' to it, which must be completed (the subtle sense of let-down when the transaction isn't completed as expected is tangible). Since the ego has been worn down a bit I've noticed much more of an absence of that 'transactionality', as it were. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2013 16:55:51 GMT -5
What E says resonates with me (not sure if the LOL is in disagreement or not TBH). I've previously tried to do good stuff for people (wife, colleagues, friends, hobos) but there is always that subtle element of a 'transaction' to it, which must be completed (the subtle sense of let-down when the transaction isn't completed as expected is tangible). Since the ego has been worn down a bit I've noticed much more of an absence of that 'transactionality', as it were. I'm LoLing because I see ego as an aspect of awareness. Awareness is healing. |
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Post by Beingist on Jan 31, 2013 17:04:25 GMT -5
I'm not sure why you often carve out a tiny little slice of a post, ignoring the whole rest of its content/intent, but I have my ideas about that. I suspect that the reason why it's done, is so that just the part you are responding to in your response is being quoted. |
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Post by Beingist on Jan 31, 2013 17:05:34 GMT -5
What E says resonates with me (not sure if the LOL is in disagreement or not TBH). I've previously tried to do good stuff for people (wife, colleagues, friends, hobos) but there is always that subtle element of a 'transaction' to it, which must be completed (the subtle sense of let-down when the transaction isn't completed as expected is tangible). Since the ego has been worn down a bit I've noticed much more of an absence of that 'transactionality', as it were. I'm LoLing because I see ego as an aspect of awareness. Awareness is healing. Awareness can be harmed?  |
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Post by silver on Jan 31, 2013 17:06:53 GMT -5
I'm not sure why you often carve out a tiny little slice of a post, ignoring the whole rest of its content/intent, but I have my ideas about that. I suspect that the reason why it's done, is so that just the part you are responding to in your response is being quoted. I appreciate your time and effort, B...I'm simply curious more in terms of motivation factors.  |
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Post by topology on Jan 31, 2013 17:13:23 GMT -5
Then you have also identified a misperception on the part of Mr Goat. Top himself said he was the abusive one - taking a bullet for you, I guess, I don't know... I think he was referring to you and Top, in general in his initial post on this subject. I'm not sure why you often carve out a tiny little slice of a post, ignoring the whole rest of its content/intent, but I have my ideas about that. What abuse are we talking about here? That was MG's Giraffe. I just decided to play with it a bit. |
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Post by Beingist on Jan 31, 2013 17:18:29 GMT -5
I suspect that the reason why it's done, is so that just the part you are responding to in your response is being quoted. I appreciate your time and effort, B...I'm simply curious more in terms of motivation factors. Stop looking, silver. You can only conjecture about it, anyway. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2013 17:19:53 GMT -5
I'm LoLing because I see ego as an aspect of awareness. Awareness is healing. Awareness can be harmed? Nope. Awareness can be carved up and compartmentalized by someone in separation from the wholeness they are. The post I chuckled at was doing that. |
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Post by silver on Jan 31, 2013 17:23:21 GMT -5
Top himself said he was the abusive one - taking a bullet for you, I guess, I don't know... I think he was referring to you and Top, in general in his initial post on this subject. I'm not sure why you often carve out a tiny little slice of a post, ignoring the whole rest of its content/intent, but I have my ideas about that. What abuse are we talking about here? That was MG's Giraffe. I just decided to play with it a bit. I read MG's post and for the sake of time, I will give you my take from where I am. My idea of abuse (overused word, granted) is more in the fact that you, Enigma and others, for a variety of motivations or out of sheer ignorance/not knowing/understanding, will respond in a way that can come across as such mainly because the time and effort to read, digest, and ask questions for clarification purposes isn't done and therefore, much unnecessary quibbling and knock-down-drag-outs happen on forums - destroys the sense of community that could possibly exist on a given forum as opposed to always with the 'family' squabbles. I was aghast at your and Enigma's 'take' on my post where I'm being accused of blackmail. |
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Post by Beingist on Jan 31, 2013 17:23:25 GMT -5
Awareness can be harmed? Nope. Awareness can be carved up and compartmentalized by someone in separation from the wholeness they are. The post I chuckled at was doing that. What's the healing from? |
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Post by silver on Jan 31, 2013 17:25:16 GMT -5
I appreciate your time and effort, B...I'm simply curious more in terms of motivation factors. Stop looking, silver. You can only conjecture about it, anyway. It's a little hard not to see something standing right in front of me. Yes, I know what you're saying.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2013 17:43:28 GMT -5
You've never had a strained lower back from over exertion, and placed your full awareness on it? I broke my wrist once and when it started throbbing that night after returning from the hospital I put my awareness on it and it stopped throbbing. The next day I had to go back to the doctor's office to have the wrist manipulated, and when he was finished he asked me if I wanted another prescription for pain medication. I told him it wouldn't be necessary, and handed him back the pain medication he had prescribed the night before.
Awareness is healing.
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