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Post by enigma on Jan 30, 2013 23:26:02 GMT -5
Very funny. For some reason, 'the club' crossed my mind - the club of those who agree - to agree! ;D Tough luck for those with don't agree. I like my club - the live and let live club.  I doubt that's the right name for your club. It should be renamed into fight to the death club or always the last word club.  How about 'Illusion at all cost' club? |
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Post by Reefs on Jan 30, 2013 23:40:13 GMT -5
I doubt that's the right name for your club. It should be renamed into fight to the death club or always the last word club. How about 'Illusion at all cost' club? Does that sound kind and loving enough? |
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Post by Reefs on Jan 30, 2013 23:42:42 GMT -5
When I hear Sedona in a spiritual context I think of James Arthur Ray. Was Ray doing Sedona Method? (edit: funny how we always come back to self-help with Andy) I dunno nuthin bout Ray. It's interesting that I can't find Lester's first person account of his story. All I find is regurgitation from those with something to sell. I've got Marie tracking down the Lost Lester Manuscript. ;D Would be interesting to compare the Lost Lester Scriptures with the modern day translations.  So far I couldn't find any connection between Sedona Method and Ray. |
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Post by Reefs on Jan 31, 2013 0:00:14 GMT -5
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Post by tzujanli on Jan 31, 2013 0:15:01 GMT -5
Greetings.. I doubt that's the right name for your club. It should be renamed into fight to the death club or always the last word club. How about 'Illusion at all cost' club? Yes.. your club fits that description nicely, y'all support each others' illusions of knowing what everyone else 'should' know, and telling everyone else why the club's illusions are true.. Be well.. |
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Post by silver on Jan 31, 2013 0:15:27 GMT -5
Yup. That one would've been purrfect. |
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Post by silver on Jan 31, 2013 0:16:42 GMT -5
Thanks Reefs! Mighty kind of you!  (It's a cute 'lil angel!) edit: Oh crap.It didn't work.  Use the image thingy.  |
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Post by Reefs on Jan 31, 2013 0:17:31 GMT -5
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Post by silver on Jan 31, 2013 0:18:56 GMT -5
Greetings.. How about 'Illusion at all cost' club? Yes.. your club fits that description nicely, y'all support each others' illusions of knowing what everyone else 'should' know, and telling everyone else why the club's illusions are true.. Be well.. I concur. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2013 0:21:56 GMT -5
 There!! edit: Yay...it worked. Thanks again...you know, you might live to regret this one though! ;D
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Post by Reefs on Jan 31, 2013 1:01:12 GMT -5
There!! edit: Yay...it worked. Thanks again...you know, you might live to regret this one though! ;D Well, in that case ...  |
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Post by arisha on Jan 31, 2013 1:22:18 GMT -5
Hi, various Clubs members!
About Tolle. I don't know what people have found in his teaching, really don't know. It is not an authentic teaching. I don't think it's possible to call it a teaching at all. It's just a compilation from zen and some other teachings - done with crucial distortions, and presented as something new and valuable. The core is missing, and what is left is floating around senselessly. That is why his teaching doesn't help. He is not able to understand why it doesn't help, but he pretends everything is ok, though he does know that the teaching is useless for people. Instead of investigating why his teaching creates even more problems instead of giving help he prefers not noticing that. But he certainly knows something is wrong. So many people after trying his method start asking : and what? Why is there the same depression or even more? And those who didn't have any negative experience about the reality start having it instead of receiving more light and hope, and also ask : what to do about it? Does Tolle know about such outcomes? Sure, he does. What is his answer to those questions? The same as what he has recommended before. He doesn't care about others problems, about learning from them, about helping anybody with them.
You may say why he had such a success (bestseller #1, the best spiritual teacher, etc.) if his teaching doesn't work, and why he is still popular? It just happened. He happened to be the one who was liked for the simplicity of his method (people prefer to be given something simple, the simpler the better.) And it occurred on a due time, when religions don't have such an influence as before because the level of life is so high in the West that everybody can be well without any God. But still people need something else. Now it's a something to cope with boredom. When one has all they need and even more, they start feeling boredom. Even depression. And here comes E.Tolle who managed to cope with his boredom!
Do you think he is known in other parts of the world where people are not provided so well? Nobody reads his ridiculous teachings there! People are not bored there - that's why. They suffer from other things, but no one has a depression. Those who have it are so rare. But here, in the US, I can listen about it every day: Ask your doctor about Simbolta. Depression hurts...
As for Tolle's "philosophy", - let me tell you that he has no philosophy of his own at all. Nothing. Just empty words.
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